On June 09 2015 15:01 Kickstart wrote:
But Onegu admitted to being scum team.
But Onegu admitted to being scum team.
Lol
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Onegu
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On June 09 2015 15:01 Kickstart wrote: But Onegu admitted to being scum team. Lol | ||
Onegu
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##Vote LightningStrike Not giving reads early and just commenting on random things. Also wanting to lynch me because I didn't claim VT and then pointed it out myself maybe the dumbest thing I may have ever seen here. | ||
Breshke
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On June 09 2015 15:35 Tubesock wrote: So, what are we doing here? Lynching the lurkiest? yeah, kinda more like the scummiest lurkiest. I still want to hear LS's meta read on bugs and why him and bm have come to opposite conclusions. I'm not really feeling that strong about anyone being scum so I was thinking I wouldn't feel terrible about a no lynch because it means we either get 3 blues again next phase or scum have to try use at least one of their vigi shots during the night if they want to stop that. 2 if they miss the first one. However because there is numerous people lurking I feel like this wouldn't realty work. Plus town needs to kill people to win. | ||
batsnacks
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Breshke
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On June 09 2015 21:53 batsnacks wrote: Can we not lynch bugs btw? BM's push is compelling and all but mafia is rarely the person making the first push on someone (bugs pushing foots, LS). I think it's more likely that bugs is just excited/rusty town. He even took it all personal when people didn't validate his effort. I don't think bugs is getting lynched. Yeah he has leading votes but i don't see like 4 or whatever number it is more people voting him unless all the lurkers suddenly decide too. Why shockey over stutters or onegu? Foots points? | ||
LightningStrike
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WBG: Meta which I just explained. FreezingFoot: His reaction to WBG seemed pretty townie and looked townie outside of it. bats: Seems much more in line of his town meta compared to scum meta from my experience with him where the only time I played vs his scum he was I think a little bit more serious that game. Breshke: He seemed much more focused this game and willing to ask questions more than his normal scum game which I manged to catch him before BM: Although I think he's wrong on his meta read on WBG he did push it and he actually believes and looked townie for pushing someone who I think is Top Town. The rest are Null just wish a couple of the people would start posting more | ||
batsnacks
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On June 09 2015 22:10 Breshke wrote: Show nested quote + On June 09 2015 21:53 batsnacks wrote: Can we not lynch bugs btw? BM's push is compelling and all but mafia is rarely the person making the first push on someone (bugs pushing foots, LS). I think it's more likely that bugs is just excited/rusty town. He even took it all personal when people didn't validate his effort. I don't think bugs is getting lynched. Yeah he has leading votes but i don't see like 4 or whatever number it is more people voting him unless all the lurkers suddenly decide too. Why shockey over stutters or onegu? Foots points? I think someone said stutters never does anything d1 I seem to remember that being true the 1 game I've played with him. Anyway everyone but shockey has made at least 1 memorable post. Shockey's roll is too slow. | ||
ShoCkeyy
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On June 09 2015 01:49 ShoCkeyy wrote: Show nested quote + On June 09 2015 01:22 LightningStrike wrote: On June 09 2015 00:25 ShoCkeyy wrote: ##vote wherebugsgo Bugs posts in the beginning are trollish, but who knows just following the hype train from reading the thread atm. Anymore thoughts outside of Bugs opening? I've only gone through the opening, but Kickstart's and Breshke posts seem legit, Onegu is hiding to not get sniped first day. I'll sheep BM just cause I want to atm. It's the first day, hard to tell anything about anybody. Especially when there is other people who have yet to really post. Then there is the smurf, but he's been active so w.e I liked Kickstarts opening, very part of the game, he went ahead and started with some roleplay basically saying he's town which is why I quickly can say he's town (obviously it's still the beginning, the posting can get worse) and he went ahead and started questioning bugs cause of this: On June 08 2015 08:15 wherebugsgo wrote: anyway I am kinda sad I didn't roll scum this game but you guys should elevate me to Greater Demon status cause that'll be baller also if you guys could fill me in on who I should expect to suck this game and when I should be disappointed for someone sucking that would be great It's an opening post, but it's just so ugly for it being one of the first opening posts. Breshke - You can just tell he's playing a townie, then why all the questions that force others to really give their opinions of other players? On June 09 2015 14:57 Breshke wrote: Show nested quote + On June 09 2015 14:53 FreezingFoot wrote: Onegu is much more a coin flip than anything. He should definetely not be lynched today. I think LS is the same. He always is this passive regardless of alignment why is shockey not a coin flip as well then? Is he not new? I'm not new to these forums. I've definitely have played Mafia here before, but it's been a long time since then, so in a way I am new once again and I change my play style every game no matter what role. Then what's the point of continually playing when others have such a great read on you? This is why I started playing again, brings enjoyment. Onegu: He brings points, then leaves - hiding to not really get sniped. BM: I've played games with him before, always town. So I just rather sheep some one with more knowledge atm. This was my opening post, now I've explained myself about it because most of you instantly think scum if I don't. This post is w.e from LS: + Show Spoiler + On June 08 2015 21:58 LightningStrike wrote: Just woke up[ and had company over last night hence why my activity was kinda iffy(I thought they would be done earlier but they stayed till 11:15 -_-) and Bugs got a question: Show nested quote + On June 08 2015 16:18 wherebugsgo wrote: LightningStrike, do you have any games of yours that you would suggest I read if I wanted to know more about how you play? Gonna dig around myself but just curious if you can help me along in identifying which games you would consider representative of your town and mafia play. For town here a mix of my good games and bad games: Student V: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475036-student-mafia-v?user=LightningStrike Games of Throne: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/482863-game-of-thrones-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike Titanic VII: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?user=LightningStrike&page=2 Carol of the Bells(Post limit game): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/472628-tl-mafia-lxix-carol-of-the-bells?user=LightningStrike Assassination(Another post limit game): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/484076-assassination-mafia?user=LightningStrike XXX A Night of Debauchery (18+): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/479775-xxx-mini-mafia-a-night-of-debauchery-18?user=LightningStrike I only got 3 scum games and here their filters: Student IV(First scum game ever and 2nd game on TL): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/471489-student-mafia-iv-new-newish-players-welcome?user=LightningStrike Jack of All Trades: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/476732-jack-of-all-trades-mafia?user=LightningStrike Guardians of the Galaxy(Latest scum game): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480042-tl-mafia-lxx-guardians-of-the-galaxy?user=LightningStrike You can check the database if you need more town games Also you still think FreezingFoot is scum? I don't like it, why do you link so many previous games to make sure people know how you play as a townie or mafia? And the fact that Bugs asked you makes it strange. Especially when he can just dig around himself, theres a database thread with ctrl + f. On June 09 2015 15:20 FreezingFoot wrote: Show nested quote + On June 09 2015 15:06 Breshke wrote: Actually foot never mind that's a shit question. Would be nice if shockey would come back to the thread Ok And Shockey, when you come back to the thread, I ask you catch up and tell who we should lynch I'm still going to stick to bugs, he's obviously angry about being called out so early into the game that he decides to leave instead, what kind of town motive is that? The google spreadsheet? It's ok, points as BM mafia because he's on an all out against bugs and LS even though they never had another interaction again after the game list above. On June 09 2015 11:37 wherebugsgo wrote: have fun guys, gonna join the lurkers https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18hJSlotqO9cGIaINjn3EQtuMrxz1p6SH_G4algS3Otk/edit#gid=0 I don't have an interest in playing when no one else has an interest in playing If the train decides to lynch a lurker (stutters), I doubt he would pull so much attention to himself if he was mafia by just not posting. | ||
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FreezingFoot
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On June 09 2015 23:50 ShoCkeyy wrote: Show nested quote + On June 09 2015 01:49 ShoCkeyy wrote: On June 09 2015 01:22 LightningStrike wrote: On June 09 2015 00:25 ShoCkeyy wrote: ##vote wherebugsgo Bugs posts in the beginning are trollish, but who knows just following the hype train from reading the thread atm. Anymore thoughts outside of Bugs opening? I've only gone through the opening, but Kickstart's and Breshke posts seem legit, Onegu is hiding to not get sniped first day. I'll sheep BM just cause I want to atm. It's the first day, hard to tell anything about anybody. Especially when there is other people who have yet to really post. Then there is the smurf, but he's been active so w.e I liked Kickstarts opening, very part of the game, he went ahead and started with some roleplay basically saying he's town which is why I quickly can say he's town (obviously it's still the beginning, the posting can get worse) and he went ahead and started questioning bugs cause of this: Show nested quote + On June 08 2015 08:15 wherebugsgo wrote: anyway I am kinda sad I didn't roll scum this game but you guys should elevate me to Greater Demon status cause that'll be baller also if you guys could fill me in on who I should expect to suck this game and when I should be disappointed for someone sucking that would be great It's an opening post, but it's just so ugly for it being one of the first opening posts. Breshke - You can just tell he's playing a townie, then why all the questions that force others to really give their opinions of other players? Show nested quote + On June 09 2015 14:57 Breshke wrote: On June 09 2015 14:53 FreezingFoot wrote: Onegu is much more a coin flip than anything. He should definetely not be lynched today. I think LS is the same. He always is this passive regardless of alignment why is shockey not a coin flip as well then? Is he not new? I'm not new to these forums. I've definitely have played Mafia here before, but it's been a long time since then, so in a way I am new once again and I change my play style every game no matter what role. Then what's the point of continually playing when others have such a great read on you? This is why I started playing again, brings enjoyment. Onegu: He brings points, then leaves - hiding to not really get sniped. BM: I've played games with him before, always town. So I just rather sheep some one with more knowledge atm. This was my opening post, now I've explained myself about it because most of you instantly think scum if I don't. This post is w.e from LS: + Show Spoiler + On June 08 2015 21:58 LightningStrike wrote: Just woke up[ and had company over last night hence why my activity was kinda iffy(I thought they would be done earlier but they stayed till 11:15 -_-) and Bugs got a question: Show nested quote + On June 08 2015 16:18 wherebugsgo wrote: LightningStrike, do you have any games of yours that you would suggest I read if I wanted to know more about how you play? Gonna dig around myself but just curious if you can help me along in identifying which games you would consider representative of your town and mafia play. For town here a mix of my good games and bad games: Student V: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475036-student-mafia-v?user=LightningStrike Games of Throne: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/482863-game-of-thrones-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike Titanic VII: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?user=LightningStrike&page=2 Carol of the Bells(Post limit game): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/472628-tl-mafia-lxix-carol-of-the-bells?user=LightningStrike Assassination(Another post limit game): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/484076-assassination-mafia?user=LightningStrike XXX A Night of Debauchery (18+): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/479775-xxx-mini-mafia-a-night-of-debauchery-18?user=LightningStrike I only got 3 scum games and here their filters: Student IV(First scum game ever and 2nd game on TL): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/471489-student-mafia-iv-new-newish-players-welcome?user=LightningStrike Jack of All Trades: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/476732-jack-of-all-trades-mafia?user=LightningStrike Guardians of the Galaxy(Latest scum game): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480042-tl-mafia-lxx-guardians-of-the-galaxy?user=LightningStrike You can check the database if you need more town games Also you still think FreezingFoot is scum? I don't like it, why do you link so many previous games to make sure people know how you play as a townie or mafia? And the fact that Bugs asked you makes it strange. Especially when he can just dig around himself, theres a database thread with ctrl + f. Show nested quote + On June 09 2015 15:20 FreezingFoot wrote: On June 09 2015 15:06 Breshke wrote: Actually foot never mind that's a shit question. Would be nice if shockey would come back to the thread Ok And Shockey, when you come back to the thread, I ask you catch up and tell who we should lynch I'm still going to stick to bugs, he's obviously angry about being called out so early into the game that he decides to leave instead, what kind of town motive is that? The google spreadsheet? It's ok, points as BM mafia because he's on an all out against bugs and LS even though they never had another interaction again after the game list above. Show nested quote + On June 09 2015 11:37 wherebugsgo wrote: have fun guys, gonna join the lurkers https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18hJSlotqO9cGIaINjn3EQtuMrxz1p6SH_G4algS3Otk/edit#gid=0 I don't have an interest in playing when no one else has an interest in playing If the train decides to lynch a lurker (stutters), I doubt he would pull so much attention to himself if he was mafia by just not posting. Are you implying LS and bugs may be scum together? I also didn't understand your points on Onegu and Breshke | ||
Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
I'm not coming off my wagon. This guy is acting like a big baby. If he's not scum, I'm completely OK with this lynch merely on policy, to be honest | ||
Bill Murray
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On June 09 2015 12:17 Breshke wrote: Show nested quote + On June 09 2015 12:12 Bill Murray wrote: On June 09 2015 12:08 Breshke wrote: On June 09 2015 12:05 Bill Murray wrote: If you look into the wording WBG is using it's as if "useful" to him is who will push forth his agenda If you're not buddying him, and especially those who are voting him, are getting negative points from him/he's flinging shit/flailing at them He is a part of a generation of players that were run off from here; he is a condescending player, especially as scum this is his scum game 110% Could you give me an example of the bolded, I don't see it. Also this is my point you say he is a condescending player so why is this scum condescending and not town condescending. from my experience with WBG he tends to lurk a lot more as town, and will pop up to be helpful. He isn't condescending in the least. This is sheer flailing and something that I haven't seen from him before. He's saying I don't see how he acts as scum.. well him acting like a crybaby is new to me, so that must be his scum meta my case on him is more deductive reasoning and seeing if something would stick than anything. Granted, a page ago, when he posted what he did, it has me kind of wanting to come off my vote... but the feeling that he is likely scum is just too much. I don't want to let someone like this get away with this. He can act condescending all he wants, and say "when have you ever caught me as scum", but this guy never roles scum here for me to have a meta on. TL;DR I know his town meta; and this isn't it Okay so what do you think about LS reading his past games and coming to the opposite conclusion to you? I get you said he is misguided town but I don't see why this hasn't been discussed between you two yet. I actually agree with a lot of WBG reads and still don't reall see the problem with the wording but that isn't really something I pick up on. So if you want to handhold me through it that would be great. then why arent you voting WBG? My view on LS is from the last few games I've played with him. I've gotten to see him in numerous roles. I feel like he's new to reserve mafia. On June 09 2015 13:42 Tubesock wrote: ##Vote: wherebugsgo 1. Chezinu rules. I worship the brown. LightningStrike basically same rule. 2. Flat wrong on the smurf issue and continues to bring it up. Town points to the person who understands the massive town advantage to having FreezingFoot be someone like townHolyflare. Bugs is NK1 hunting. Why would he ask who he should suck up to and who sucks? 3. Pretty often tunnelled towns help dig their own grave. If can't out him, easy mlynch. 4. After a couple people town Foot (sorry reading FF makes me think of Fecalfeast) he posts "oooh look I have 5 townreads! I'm just like YOU GUYS!" 5. Bill Mother Fucking Murray. townposting strongtown tubesock take notes you guys On June 09 2015 13:46 Tubesock wrote: Also, I don't care who the smurf is. There is another instance where smurfing is beneficial to this town. We tend to rely a lot on meta. So, what happens when someone's meta is do nothing town, but try hard mafia and they want to change that? Or a chance to see if they can. Like, I'd lynch Onegu in an instant if he try harded. what about the opposite? On June 09 2015 13:58 The Shining wrote: Well this is awkward. I thought this game started today, not yesterday. I've read pretty much everything, just want to dive filters now, since I started glazing over a lot during the whole smurf debate and feel like I could've missed stuff. Overall, if WBG is seriously BMing("joining the lurkers) over his case being attacked and being scummed when he's been adamant and ad hominem/has been condescending is pretty inconsistent. Like you're calling players scum AND bad. Why can you dish the heat and not take it? I only have WBG as possible town because I don't think scum would continue rolling with that so hard and then continue pushing other things and conversation in the thread. And I've also had times I've BMd as town over activity levels and attacks but...I'm also not nearly as abrasive. I'm not 100% sure WBG is town but I think he's not the best lynch for today. I never know how to read LS. I'm not sure I even want to bother trying this game. Every time I do, I just get scummed in return, regardless of whether I deduce he's scum or town lol. But for right now, I could lynch him. First page of filter is a few one liners, some wishy washy stuff and emoticons. And some of those one liners were questions he never followed up on or took anywhere(the questioning Stutters AND Shockey, two "lurkers"). But they haven't even been on to reply so it's NAI. I'll give him a very slight town lean for now for being willing to post past games and stepping it up once the game moved on from the smurf debate. Don't lynch Yamato. That's pretty simple, right? I was worried that Terrorblade comment would be his only post but that big analysis post, although a bit hard on the eyes, looked pretty good. At worst, it's a good townie looking at WBG and LS objectively. At worst, it's scum misdirection in a HUGE post that can be revisited later, but I really don't think that's the case. I think BM could flip scum here. He opens with voting me, presumably as pressure to get me to post, but he leaves it up for about an hour, if that. Seems like a really odd way to pressure vote and without posting to that point, I'm not sure what else I would've been voted for. Then he puts up a semi-serious? vote on Bats. Buddying WBG. Clearly says not unvoting. Next post? Unvotes. Votes WBG. Yes, he explains WHY he's voting and going after WBG but prior to that, there were 2 rather unexplained votes, including a clear indication that he wouldn't move. What changed? BM, explain? What are you reading bats as now? FreezingFoot. Funny thing is, I found myself having the same thought regarding WBG's entrance. Trying hard to look town, asking who is "good", etc. I feel like it is a genuine reaction if I reacted the same way. But I've already explained that later things WBG did make it harder for me to believe he's scum. But I also like Freezing's later questioning of Shockey. 2nd time he posted something I was thinking while reading. And I subscribe to the "two D1 contributors going at each other hard are usually town" theory so I won't lynch FF or WBG today. Freezing town. Onegu very slight scum lean for not claiming VT and then pointing it out himself. It's like he realized he broke his meta because he isn't town but he turned it into a joke to trivialize it. Note that in acknowledging he didn't claim VT, he proceeded to not claim VT. So he's not VT. Easiest read ever. The list post was a bit underwhelming, too, but since I took that word from his own filter, I can't judge it very much. Can't chalk him up to much more than a null right now. Shockeyy. I can't say anything about him until he answers FreezingFoot's questions. But even those 2 posts were inconsistent. Policy lynch with a gut scum feeling. Stutters doesn't do D1. But even as for as not doing D1, the level of activity for him is bad. He likes FF. Is going to try and post more. I could lynch if he doesn't at least try to get SOMETHING out before EoD. Tubesock is town side of null. The entrance is ok but I'm parroting WBG's spreadsheet here. It could be nothing or it could be something but I also picked up on him knowing FF was a girl. But I don't remember seeing FF confirm that. But I have FF in my town pile so meh. Bats I like for town. The few times I've played with him, he's been a bit sporadic but his questioning have clear trains of thought and I liked the picking up on Tube/FF female thing. It shows he's actively reading and has an interest in solving the game. Breshke is slight town pile for now. He was willing to reassess his read and vote on FF but he did it in a well thought out and explained post, not just a "oh I got caught trying to jump on a wagon, let me backtrack" kind of manner. He's also actively questioning. Not a good lynch today. Kickstart is town town town. General rule of thumb. Don't lynch the larger filters on D1, since you can come back to them instead of destroying all activity in the game and letting lurking scum win. Kickstart's early posts felt a bit odd but it seems he was just playing into the flavor and getting discussion going. Since then, he's been looking at everything in thread, from WBG - FF to Breshke's vote to commenting on everyone who has posted. can you not use the term "bming" if youre going to use the acronym to talk about me? also your read on me is shit are you implying I don't RVS as town because that's utter bullshit | ||
Half the Sky
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Day 1 Vote Count wherebugsgo (3): Bill Murray, ShoCkeyy, Tubesock LightningStrike (2): wherebugsgo, Yamato77, Onegu Onegu (2): Breshke, Kickstart ShoCkeyy (2): FreezingFoot, batsnacks Not voted (3): The Shining, Stutters695, LightningStrike, Currently, no one is set to be lynched! Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00). With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch. Remember to vote in thread, and cast withcraft votes via PM Failure to vote in either category will result in a modkill. | ||
Bill Murray
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i am indifferent towards the smurf thing. who cares who freezingfoot is. who cares if it's a guy or a girl. i'm going to call her her until i hear otherwise because i think it's rsoultin. does it matter? no. stop it, guys, for real. | ||
Bill Murray
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On June 10 2015 02:21 Half the Sky wrote: Day 1 Vote Count wherebugsgo (3): Bill Murray, ShoCkeyy, Tubesock LightningStrike (2): wherebugsgo, Yamato77, Onegu Onegu (2): Breshke, Kickstart ShoCkeyy (2): FreezingFoot, batsnacks Not voted (3): The Shining, Stutters695, LightningStrike, Currently, no one is set to be lynched! Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00). With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch. Remember to vote in thread, and cast withcraft votes via PM Failure to vote in either category will result in a modkill. that votecount has at least 1 error | ||
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