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Empyrean
16935 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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HeRoS)Pink
Canada336 Posts
On March 19 2008 01:28 Ghar wrote: For people that might have missed my plans as mayor, the link is in my profile page. And I support Ace. Don't know if he's towny or not, but we think alike. So should I end up not getting enough votes, Ace would make a nice alternative if we need to combine votes to win. Why would he do that if he really wants to be the mayor? Cuz they both think alike? I dont think so, they had almost the same plan which is another coincidence. So Don't start voting for Ace because he's accusing Empyrean of being too much unsafe for the town. -Pink | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On March 19 2008 08:30 Empyrean wrote: My problem with your candidacy is that the same thing could apply. You could be mafia as well, and all we have is your word. I'm basically going to be adopting a similar plan, so why not vote for the candidate who actually has a role? (Of course, you may as well.) Also, I don't agree with the bodyguard plan qrs posted wholly - if the mayor were mafia, he could have a mafia member "reveal" that he was a bodyguard, and then the mafia would know the player's jobs/plan/etc., as well as waste a significant amount of paramedic protection. That's why I think that we should investigate any person who claims bodyguard first. But seriously. If I'm elected, just get other detectives to check my role. The mafia will certainly fake some detectives, but I have ways around that which I can't reveal at the moment because it would compromise the method. Obviously ANY of us could be Mafia, stating that isn't going to help figure out anything. The problem I have with you being Mayor is you never offered any kind of plan until today when Ghar and myself posted stuff and starting getting votes - and you were here last night so you saw the original plan Ghar posted and my comments. Even if you somehow missed it - you never revealed that you had a plan until we questioned your candidacy. Voting for a candidate based on a supposed role has NO BENEFIT for the Town. Surely, someone as smart as yourself would have realized that and instead run on the basis of well - being smart, knowing what to do, experience. a plan, something. You did something extremely selfish, and I hate to say it but if you are elected Mayor or even Pardoner we are in a bad spot at the start of the game. Selfish people are horrible for the town - Detectives that won't come forward with critical evidence because they fear death, Medics that refuse to actually protect people that are pretty much a sure fire kill for Mafia, Vets that don't post or contribute at all and instead only vote which means they draw no attention to themselves. Also you are CLEARLY not READING. If you looked at both my plan and qrs's plan you'd realize that the Mayor CANT DO THAT without getting into bad situation. If they false claim the Mayor is a goner, and out of the possible claimers the Town has a sure fire list of suspects which contains a Mafiaso and the detectives are easily going to investigate them. I seriously cant believe you are acting in the best interest of the town when you wont even read other posts that suggest plans of action carefully. | ||
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Falcynn
United States3597 Posts
On March 19 2008 08:40 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Why would he need you to reply to him to doctor it? It's not that hard to take any regular PM and switch the names/date/time/message/etc.I refuse to respond to PMs such as the one Artanis sent me, as I just KNOW he's going to doctor my response and post it. but I'm sure you know that already  | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On March 19 2008 08:42 Falcynn wrote: Why would he need you to reply to him to doctor it? It's not that hard to take any regular PM and switch the names/date/time/message/etc. but I'm sure you know that already Yeah, seeing that was the exact method I used in Mafia 1, I'm not falling for it, even if he wasn't planning on it. | ||
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HotZhot
Colombia677 Posts
1. Damn you Chuiu for making me a townie and not something nice ROFL 2. I will abstain my vote because of the following: I don't have a record on new people, how they think and how they vote (don't take this seriously guys, it's just the way I am) so anything they say can be taken as in favor to the town or mafia. The plans pointed out are all nice, especially Araav's. Based on the last game (randombum was a vigilante and did what I told him, he killed imDerek) I think the town can count on him in doing the right thing, that's IF he's not mafia. Anyway as I said im not voting because of the clues are far too vague, although I like some leads. P.S: Empyrean that move of yours... it's LOL P.S2: Ace you seem to want the mayor position alot, I wonder why... | ||
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Ghar
Australia62 Posts
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Falcynn
United States3597 Posts
On March 19 2008 08:41 HeRoS)Pink wrote: To be perfectly honest Ghar's move makes sense to me. I mean I'd assume most people running for mayor are running because they truly believe they could do a good job for the town. So if you're losing it'd make sense to endorse a more popular candidate who has similar ideas as you.Well even if empyrean is telling a lie he's more clean than Ace (for me), Ace was defending Ghar's point of view (another candidate) + Ghar have clues against him, and the mafia has probably sent 2 candidates for the mayor's position and that could be the reason why Ghar was ready to give up his votes to Ace Why would he do that if he really wants to be the mayor? Cuz they both think alike? I dont think so, they had almost the same plan which is another coincidence. So Don't start voting for Ace because he's accusing Empyrean of being too much unsafe for the town. -Pink | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On March 19 2008 08:40 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: I refuse to respond to PMs such as the one Artanis sent me, as I just KNOW he's going to doctor my response and post it. lies you already responded to mine | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On March 19 2008 08:41 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Well even if empyrean is telling a lie he's more clean than Ace (for me), Ace was defending Ghar's point of view (another candidate) + Ghar have clues against him, and the mafia has probably sent 2 candidates for the mayor's position and that could be the reason why Ghar was ready to give up his votes to Ace Why would he do that if he really wants to be the mayor? Cuz they both think alike? I dont think so, they had almost the same plan which is another coincidence. So Don't start voting for Ace because he's accusing Empyrean of being too much unsafe for the town. -Pink I'm defending him because I think he's posting very logical examples of ways to help the Town, and while I can't 100% verify him being innocent, I know when I see something that helps the Town. And Empyrean isn't helping the Town, in fact he is adding a lot of confusion to this election which is something we do not need as a Town. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
Yeah, but you two are discussing mafia plans and I'm not allowed in :< | ||
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Wysp
Canada2299 Posts
Now, a mafia member could be giving us this destructive plan to get rid of the major position (for if a mafia member is elected its basicly going to be his speedy death.) But this doesn't matter. We cannot tell if anyone is mafia, so we may as well reward the best thinker. If a mafia member creates a better non-trust related plan than any legit townie could, what does it matter? He's done his share in helping us as he has enabled us to elimate his allies quicker than we could of envisioned. Also, this encourages legitimate majors to try harder. So come on Empyrean, start dishing us some good shit if you want votes. | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On March 19 2008 08:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Yeah, but you two are discussing mafia plans and I'm not allowed in :< k I pmed | ||
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LucasWoJ
United States936 Posts
On March 19 2008 08:41 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Well even if empyrean is telling a lie he's more clean than Ace (for me), Ace was defending Ghar's point of view (another candidate) + Ghar have clues against him, and the mafia has probably sent 2 candidates for the mayor's position and that could be the reason why Ghar was ready to give up his votes to Ace Why would he do that if he really wants to be the mayor? Cuz they both think alike? I dont think so, they had almost the same plan which is another coincidence. So Don't start voting for Ace because he's accusing Empyrean of being too much unsafe for the town. -Pink Considering you have "Pink" in your name, you just made me question whether Empyrean is really part of mafia or not. Are you saying that because they agree on a position that works, they're both part of mafia? Eh? Makes no sense to me. | ||
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HotZhot
Colombia677 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On March 19 2008 08:44 HotZhot wrote: P.S2: Ace you seem to want the mayor position alot, I wonder why... Because I know I'm good enough to help the Town win in that position. | ||
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Empyrean
16935 Posts
Furthermore, as I was going to be unavailable after my initial post, to only way I could get myself elected was to reveal my role. It's the only way I know of that we would have been guaranteed a townie mayor. While Ace and araav are great choices, I can't know their allegiance. By forcing people to vote for me or face the consequences of losing a detective, I am ensuring a townie mayor. My first post was made, then hours passed, then my second post was made, then hours passed, and then I started to get active in this thread. In case anyone has doubts, please investigate me or ask me to perform some detective duties. To me, the ends justify the means. That's the sole reason I revealed my role. EDIT: time confusion. | ||
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HotZhot
Colombia677 Posts
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