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justanothertownie
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While I didn't really trust Kita in Aperture there was still not a big difference in our knowledge about roles and stuff. We also knew what VA told each of us. Also I really don't know why people - even greymist - still go on about this redcheck on VA thing. As far as town knew THERE WAS NO REDCHECK ON VA. There was a redcheck on the person marv checked and we did NOT know who that was. I also really don't get how people are bashing the whole claiming in pms thing. "Town fucked up in pms". Yeah? How? We certainly did not lose because of this - mafia got almost 0 of the information that was provided there and mafia also did not fool the townleaders with it in any way. There was literally no downside to it unless you are claiming that it reduced the amount of actual scumhunting that happened which I admit might be true but since town tried to lynch mafia every single day after day1 it could not have been that bad. Town lost when slam ended the day early day2. It was almost impossible to win after that. Don't get me wrong I hate pms and I was seriously debating outing when I saw there would be pms but they are incredibly incredibly townfavored and not using this advantage is just stupid. About xxx: People saying rayn lost because his teammates didn't do their end of the bargain is the most ridiculous thing I ever heard. If he does not bus me and Onegu just doesn't casually vote me there I NEVER get lynched on that day - town did not lynch me, my teammates did. Even if they do - if rayn does not cc my fakeclaim I NEVER get lynched that day. Rayn could also have easily saved Onegu for a day. If we do not let rayn lynch us like we did then rayn never ends up in the situation he was in in the end. It literally requires us to die. And then someone comes in and says we did not do our end of the bargain by getting lynched when the only reason we got lynched was him in the first place. Ridiculous. I have to agree with Palmar though that Eden played that game and especially the day he got lynched really really well. The whole town basically did - it is a miracle that rayn even got into LYLO. Like Koshi played his role perfectly with a genius vet claim as cop for example and everyone besides maybe prplhz was just sooo towny. Then the completely random accusation against me by yamato: People who are spamming should take responsibility etc etc. and then singles me out from JAT/HF/marv/Palmar for not doing that and for bullying replacements. Where the fuck did that come from - how am I the one shitting on replacements? The 2 games I really spammed as town are Imperial and Aperture and if you want to tell me that I did not take those games on my shoulders then I am calling you a goddamn liar. He then goes on and says I am not talking to other people/working with them or that I don't care what theirs reads are. What the fuck. This isn't true in the slightest. I ALWAYS value the reads of others and let them influence my decisions especially if I think they are good players. I also ALWAYS try to work with other townleaders. Examples of players that I really tend to work with are marv and Palmar. You won't find a single game that I am not actively trying to work with marv if I don't think he is scum. Or just look at the 2 games I lynched him together with Palmar - metal mafia and showdown (?) I think. I don't even know how you come up with this shit. I just sheeped people in so many games - before Imperial it was basically everything I ever did. Every time someone says something bad about townplay in this podcast yamato goes ahead and says my name. I have no idea what his problem is with me. It probably dates back to that game he hosted were we just went at each other like idiots but please stop just slandering me for shit that isn't true in the slightest. If you really think this then you have no idea how I play. Stop painting me like a tunnely guy that does not care about others and always forces people to do what he says because that is absolutely not me except for maybe Aperture and even there I worked with people. If more people THAT HAVE ACTUALLY PLAYED WITH ME also think this is true then please show me the specific instance where I am threating people the way yamato claims and don't just say Aperture because that game was special. If people really think so then I am perfectly willing to change how I play but to me it sounds like he is just going on a personal vendetta against me for reasons I do not understand. Tell me when I ignored someone I townread/his reads and refused to work with that person as town because I don't think I ever do this and if people just shit on my play with stuff like this after I put a fucking shitload of effort into winning a game for town and the only mafia lynch we achieved was because of me pushing it like a maniac then I don't think I want to play this game anymore. If you prefer people to play like yamato usually does as town (he did not play badly in aperture - in fact I think he played really well for his current standards - but he has in quite a few other games) then I can do that too. No problem. Why put in all this effort when I can just let other people do the work and shit on them afterwards for doing so even though they were absolutely correct. | ||
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justanothertownie
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I dare you to look at any of my towngames and tell me that I do not work with other people. I fucking dare you to. | ||
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kitaman27
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On April 19 2015 19:56 justanothertownie wrote: Cool. Some comments: While I didn't really trust Kita in Aperture there was still not a big difference in our knowledge about roles and stuff. We also knew what VA told each of us. Also I really don't know why people - even greymist - still go on about this redcheck on VA thing. As far as town knew THERE WAS NO REDCHECK ON VA. There was a redcheck on the person marv checked and we did NOT know who that was. I also really don't get how people are bashing the whole claiming in pms thing. "Town fucked up in pms". Yeah? How? We certainly did not lose because of this - mafia got almost 0 of the information that was provided there and mafia also did not fool the townleaders with it in any way. There was literally no downside to it unless you are claiming that it reduced the amount of actual scumhunting that happened which I admit might be true but since town tried to lynch mafia every single day after day1 it could not have been that bad. Town lost when slam ended the day early day2. It was almost impossible to win after that. Yeah I'm not sure why people assumed that I didn't trust JAT. We exchanged about 100 PMs and he was my strongest town read aside from maybe LS. We also developed a list of about 22 out of the 27 role claims together, even if we gathered a lot of the claims separately. He was the only player in the game that I roleclaimed completely to in the first couple cycles. As for the VA telling us different things, we spoke about his role claim when he gave it to us, I googled the Nicholas Bolas magic card and we were both pretty sure he was lying based on the missing third ability in his claim, especially compared to hapa's flip. He probably trusted me less than I trusted him, but not to the point of preventing us from working together for the most part. The one spot I was kinda left in the dark was the Wave vig shot and the night two action coordination. To be fair, wave asked me for suggestions, but I was working on my scum list at that point and told him I'd get back to him, but he shot before I was done. Enjoyed the podcast. You guys should do these more frequently, even if they have to be a bit shorter in length  | ||
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Damdred
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I think it's valid to say that jat and kita were sharing with each other but almost nobody else? I think that's a valid complaint but that's just a problem with pm games to | ||
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justanothertownie
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On April 19 2015 23:14 Damdred wrote: We talked about pms a lot but the amount of stockpiled information that town didn't have available might of been detrimental. I don't like pm games honestly, but it seemed pretty rampant where there were a ton of people not in the town circle or chat. I think it's valid to say that jat and kita were sharing with each other but almost nobody else? I think that's a valid complaint but that's just a problem with pm games to If you share everything with everyone that kinda defeats the point, don't you think? How do you think stockpiled information was a detriment to town? Also there are quite a few people that I shared more information with than Kita, namely Koshi, marv and rsoultin. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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On April 19 2015 23:09 justanothertownie wrote: The wave vig shot was such a tragedy. I gave Wave 3 people to shoot into and he picked the only one that wasn't scum. And then I let him die because I couldn't decide about what to do with slam. THAT is something you can absolutely criticize about my play. I didn't shoot VA because he was the lynch before it got fucked up, and damdred I thought was actual 3P. Sucks it turned out that way. | ||
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Damdred
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On April 19 2015 23:17 justanothertownie wrote: If you share everything with everyone that kinda defeats the point, don't you think? How do you think stockpiled information was a detriment to town? Also there are quite a few people that I shared more information with than Kita, namely Koshi, marv and rsoultin. How does hidden information help town? And all of those people sadly died really early. Obviously I don't care since I was Scum and yea but | ||
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