EPTDamn, quite hard game to read, my reads were pretty bad even on the last day (in obs qt)
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
Damn, quite hard game to read, my reads were pretty bad even on the last day (in obs qt) | ||
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justanothertownie
16309 Posts
On April 08 2015 08:55 Blazinghand wrote: Yeah well I personally find you to be an excellent person and definitely the reasons VE and Slam didn't work with you, who was town, was that you were too excellent, smart, friendly, nice to be around, and generally pleasant. Seriously though you played fine so the only explanation is that either 1. people are bad or 2. people irrationally don't like you, and the average TL Mafia player is really good, so 2 is correct. Look BH, I don't care at all about your opinion. I don't dislike you but if you want to cultivate some kind of grudge against me then feel free to do so. That however has nothing to do with why VE and/or slam did not cooperate with the rest of town because they could have easily worked with other people like Kita for example. | ||
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justanothertownie
16309 Posts
On April 08 2015 08:58 Blazinghand wrote: Man I gotta say though, I basically had no clue what was going on that game. Just keep on shooting townies and riding my claim, that was the strat. Also GreyMist according to post 106 in the scum QT it's ok to submit nks via scum qt rather than PM dang if only my scumteam was as on point as I was bats would have lived The ONLY reason you survived longer then night 2 is that Holyflare was moriarty and did not claim. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On April 08 2015 08:55 Blazinghand wrote: Yeah well I personally find you to be an excellent person and definitely the reasons VE and Slam didn't work with you, who was town, was that you were too excellent, smart, friendly, nice to be around, and generally pleasant. Seriously though you played fine so the only explanation is that either 1. people are bad or 2. people irrationally don't like you, and the average TL Mafia player is really good, so 2 is correct. lol -sits on bh's head- i'm a fairly pragmatic person and my likes or dislikes rarely go into my play here. i think there's only one player on TL that i'd legitimately have a hard time working with cause he makes me irrationally angry xP that said, my main issue with jat was kita, not jat...his personality makes him less approachable but it was a non-factor (just an annoyance) for whatever reason kita you just were determined to use jat's status to elevate your own and it bugged me all game lol >< i never could bring myself to townread you because of it | ||
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Snarfs
Canada1006 Posts
On April 08 2015 08:51 justanothertownie wrote: Depends. In this game they made the game unwinnable for town (losing in the process) but had they worked WITH town instead then scum would have had a hard time. If slam works with town we do not lose a lynch, we get rid of VA (probably) etc. If Holyflare works with town we get rid of BH 100 % Both would win and be removed from the game so there wouldn't be so many question marks left. Everyone is happy. Except for mafia. Yea, that makes sense. I wish I'd saved chez/marv night 1. I was very close to it but just wasn't confident enough. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
Well, other than "I thought she was very likely scum and town would instantly lose by not lynching her" | ||
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justanothertownie
16309 Posts
On April 08 2015 09:02 Snarfs wrote: Yea, that makes sense. I wish I'd saved chez/marv night 1. I was very close to it but just wasn't confident enough. Did he know you were a medic? Because he told me that he expected to be shot and had I been a medic I would have saved him. But I only had this shitty warrior bodyguard power. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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justanothertownie
16309 Posts
On April 08 2015 09:03 Blazinghand wrote: So honestly JAT you're a fine dude if a bit abrasive... but I hate your screenname. Every time I read it I'm enraged. No joke, naming yourself after the innocent alignment makes you a person of awful taste. You're a fine player and if you had some name other than yours I'd be fine with you. As it stands I will never accept you. lol, that's fine with me. That's actually really funny. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
Unfair much. Artorias was super cool flavor-wise though because I'm a huge Dark Souls fan. Thanks for the game grey, thanks for the complements and gg all. | ||
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Snarfs
Canada1006 Posts
On April 08 2015 09:03 justanothertownie wrote: Did he know you were a medic? Because he told me that he expected to be shot and had I been a medic I would have saved him. But I only had this shitty warrior bodyguard power. No. If I wasn't confident enough to save him, I wasn't confident enough to tell him I was a medic. I only claimed my medic powers to you all game, then to Onegu the last night. | ||
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Snarfs
Canada1006 Posts
On April 08 2015 09:03 gonzaw wrote: Xfire, why did you derail the D4 lynch by openly siding with anti-town 3P, pushing the lynch OFF confirmed scum and ON to a somewhat likely townie? Well, other than "I thought she was very likely scum and town would instantly lose by not lynching her" I mean, I got this. And I didn't think he was scum for it. But I would not switch to HtS before Sepulchre in any game ever. And I probably would have switched off bats to Sepulchre if he pushed that. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On April 08 2015 09:05 justanothertownie wrote: lol, that's fine with me. That's actually really funny. I know it's a stupid reason but I'm a man of principle. And sometimes standing on principle means being stupid. | ||
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justanothertownie
16309 Posts
On April 08 2015 09:07 Snarfs wrote: I mean, I got this. And I didn't think he was scum for it. But I would not switch to HtS before Sepulchre in any game ever. And I probably would have switched off bats to Sepulchre if he pushed that. Exactly. That's the really dumb part about it. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On April 08 2015 09:01 justanothertownie wrote: The ONLY reason you survived longer then night 2 is that Holyflare was moriarty and did not claim. Yeh I'm totally going to claim to someone i checked as mafia n2..... | ||
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Onegu
United States9695 Posts
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justanothertownie
16309 Posts
On April 08 2015 09:08 Holyflare wrote: Yeh I'm totally going to claim to someone i checked as mafia n2..... That wasn't meant as criticism for you. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
I'm not sure if town actually was capable of lynching batsnacks on day four, but we should have. HF was just being so obnoxious that he was able to get under everyone's skin to a point where most of the town was sick of it. I shouldn't have let him get to me, but I was tired of the flaming from a player who honestly didn't seem to have a purpose for doing so. I kinda question how he played things out considering how easy it would have been to just claim Moriarty and have BH lynched early on in the game. I know that this has been brought up a ton in the past, but there really isn't a good reason for JAT or HF to have a combined 100 page filter. Discussing things is fine, but a lot of the posts really didn't accomplish anything. I don't mean to attack JAT because he was a good town leader, but when you have a limited amount of time to play each day, it just demotivates you. Even I found myself spamming more than usual this game. On a side note, I was finding so many breadcrumbs that simply didn't exist. At one point I PM'd rsoul a riddle thinking she was the riddler and HTS a random phrase thinking she was Robin. I was also really paranoid that damdred had to kill me as deadshot XD I think my reads were fairly decent this game, which I'm only bringing up because of how miserable I have been in my past couple town games. I've seriously been pushing mislynch after mislynch for the last year or so. It's really been a while since I've been able to be fairly right. I almost never have any luck with meta so coming up with the d1 BH post was kinda surprising. I really should have pushed it later in on the game, but the 3P Moriarty threw things off. I was 3/3 on my scum list post with bats, sep, and VA, but I did a pretty poor job pushing things in the thread. It was just so tough to find a good time to do so, on D2 we have the day ending early, D3 we have the easy damdred lynch, and by D4 the game was close to over. I also think I had could have done a better idea of sharing my thoughts more often, rather than sending out PMs. For me, I found it pretty frustrating how often people were calling me mafia based on some type of paranoia read. I haven't rolled mafia since March 2013, yet I always seem to have trouble getting people to trust me. I'm sure there are others that are probably better at mafia than town that deal with the same thing. It's just annoying to be told that you're mafia because you're still alive when there really that is out of your control for the most part. Night actions seem to go pretty poorly. That was pretty unfortunate. On the topic of role claims, there are two sides of this. One, a lot of the mafia team was figured out essentially to process of elimination for who hadn't claimed. On the other hand, it was way too easy for mafia to figure things out. I think you have to find a line in between for what is useful to share. A lot of people just sent me their role as soon as I asked on N1, which was pretty silly. If I had been mafia, I would probably have access to all but VE/yamato/xfire or something like that. I enjoyed the flavor of my role with the whole witnessing my parents death thing, but I got a bit unlucky picking 3p HF day 1 and then day two ended before I could submit LS. On day three I made a mistake not going with JAT or keir. I was under the impression that yamato would save JAT, but obviously that wasn't the case. There were some really cool roles this game. I enjoyed the setup, even if it seemed apparent that town didn't have much of a fighting chance for most of the game. | ||
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justanothertownie
16309 Posts
On April 08 2015 09:11 Holyflare wrote: I did try to actually help but everytime i posted it was "lol hf scum totally bussing batsnacks" or kitaman asking some irrelevant question with obvious answers. Basically you were an asshole. If you hadn't changed your story approximately a hundred times and presented any kind of believable goal then I maybe wouldn't have disregarded everything you did but if you were in my shoes then you wouldn't believe yourself either. | ||
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