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United States23455 Posts
On November 22 2014 06:58 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2014 06:55 sharkie wrote: He would get DQed in other sports as well. Don't see whats wrong with the ban Have you listened to some of the trash talk in combat sports? Shit get violent. 'gunna kill you' and all that stuff.
If a NBA player went on Twitter and went 'I am gonna rape LeBron James so bad tonight his wife will feel it', he'd be suspended and given a huge fine.
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What a stupid shit to write on Twitter. Well deserved punishment imo. I do think this has to have a lot to do with language barrier, but if you're smart you know you don't say shit like that nowadays. The fact that this was directed (or not, I don't care) at a girl changes nothing btw. You can trash talk, but there are some boundaries today's society puts on what you can say. No racial shit, no homophobe shit, no rape shit, etc etc, it's not that hard to remember.
Next time, go for a yo mama joke. Timeless yet sophisticated, for the true gentlemen.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
Kas most certainly didnt mean that he had any interest in actually literally raping Maddelisk, but his subsequent comments on Twitter indicate that he at least knows what he said.
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terrible opener by kas, build order loss.
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On November 22 2014 07:01 UberNuB wrote: I find it comical that he almost certainly would have had nothing done to him had he posted this exact tweet, but was going to play a guy. #equality #itisnotactuallyaboutequality
Was the tweet malicious? Probably not. Would he have been DQed for saying this to a man? Probably not.
But saying you're going to rape a girl and hashtagging the tournament organizer was not very smart. And clearly, he at least is aware of how some people might interpret his use of the word "rape."
Discussing rape is not some academic excercise where we can talk about #equality. "Equality" doesn't mean that you can disregard the fact that men are almost never actually raped by women, whereas women get raped by men on a daily basis.
In an ideal world, nobody would be raped. #equality
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On November 22 2014 06:58 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2014 06:55 sharkie wrote: He would get DQed in other sports as well. Don't see whats wrong with the ban Have you listened to some of the trash talk in combat sports? Shit get violent. 'gunna kill you' and all that stuff.
well I mean sports I respect like tennis, football,
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Personaly, If I was Maddelisk I would contact Kas myself and tell him that he should publicly say he messed up, and I would then ask the organizers to allow Kas to play. Equality or not, drama or not, etc, The people that I respect the most is the ones that solve the problem, not those who can figure out who is to blame.
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On November 22 2014 07:06 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2014 06:58 wei2coolman wrote:On November 22 2014 06:55 sharkie wrote: He would get DQed in other sports as well. Don't see whats wrong with the ban Have you listened to some of the trash talk in combat sports? Shit get violent. 'gunna kill you' and all that stuff. well I mean sports I respect like tennis, football, Just because you respect a sport more than other sports doesn't mean the players respect each other more than in other sports.
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Hm, just in case anyone wanted to know the #realtalk, Maddelisk is in the right, Kas is correct to feel shame and is right to apologize and Nightend is a piece of shit. The end!
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I'll remember this free win card. And, I now have a "legit" excuse for why I don't like to play in the GSL. Don't get me wrong, it's wrong to talk like that, but talk about milking it.
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I wonder if Maddelisk would write that sort of tweet refering to a male gamer if she would get disqualified...
Not saying its wrong or right to write something like that, but there is a double standart in male-female interactions that sometimes becomes very unsetteling.
~93% of rapes are perpetrated by men ~90% of rapes are perpetrated against women (the discrepancy there being men on men) *disclaimer that this is reported rapes. I'm sure it's slightly less one-sided given I'd speculate men are less likely to report being raped by a woman.
^ that right there is a double-standard in male female interactions. Treating it like it's a 50/50 thing is (rightly) very unsettling for women, given the ongoing and disproportionate victimization they suffer at the hands of men. Kind of disrespectful too. I agree that it should be adressed and avoided with/by both genders, sexual violence is not something that should be diminished through being an acceptable part of shittalking, but treating a woman less harshly for that kind of joke is fair in my books.
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On November 22 2014 07:07 iloveav wrote: Personaly, If I was Maddelisk I would contact Kas myself and tell him that he should publicly say he messed up, and I would then ask the organizers to allow Kas to play. Equality or not, drama or not, etc, The people that I respect the most is the ones that solve the problem, not those who can figure out who is to blame. He did apologize, and the organizers made the decision before she said anything.
What Kas said was crude, stupid, and unsportsmanlike, but if he's going to be punished for saying it about her, MC, Parting, and several others should be punished for saying it about their male opponents. Otherwise it's coddling Maddelisk because of her gender.
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On November 22 2014 07:07 sparklyresidue wrote: Hm, just in case anyone wanted to know the #realtalk, Maddelisk is in the right, Kas is correct to feel shame and is right to apologize and Nightend is a piece of shit. The end! NightEnD is indeed by far the worst character in this story.
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So what Kas said was obviously wrong, but I kind of don't like how because he said it to a girl, it makes it suddenly much much worse.
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On November 22 2014 07:10 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2014 07:07 sparklyresidue wrote: Hm, just in case anyone wanted to know the #realtalk, Maddelisk is in the right, Kas is correct to feel shame and is right to apologize and Nightend is a piece of shit. The end! NightEnD is indeed by far the worst character in this story. I thought everyone already knew he isn't a very smart fella
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On November 22 2014 07:09 Thereisnosaurus wrote:Show nested quote +I wonder if Maddelisk would write that sort of tweet refering to a male gamer if she would get disqualified...
Not saying its wrong or right to write something like that, but there is a double standart in male-female interactions that sometimes becomes very unsetteling. ~93% of rapes are perpetrated by men ~90% of rapes are perpetrated against women (the discrepancy there being men on men) *disclaimer that this is reported rapes. I'm sure it's slightly less one-sided given I'd speculate men are less likely to report being raped by a woman. ^ that right there is a double-standard in male female interactions. Treating it like it's a 50/50 thing is (rightly) very unsettling for women, given the ongoing and disproportionate victimization they suffer at the hands of men. Kind of disrespectful too. I agree that it should be adressed and avoided with/by both genders, sexual violence is not something that should be diminished through being an acceptable part of shittalking, but treating a woman less harshly for that kind of joke is fair in my books. By the same logic, women being killed shouldn't be taken as seriously because most murders are perpetrated by men against men.
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On November 22 2014 07:11 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: So what Kas said was obviously wrong, but I kind of don't like how because he said it to a girl, it makes it suddenly much much worse. I don't see why he had to bring up his opponent's gender in the first place. "Some girl" is pretty disrespectful in itself.
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On November 22 2014 07:09 Thereisnosaurus wrote:Show nested quote +I wonder if Maddelisk would write that sort of tweet refering to a male gamer if she would get disqualified...
Not saying its wrong or right to write something like that, but there is a double standart in male-female interactions that sometimes becomes very unsetteling. ~93% of rapes are perpetrated by men ~90% of rapes are perpetrated against women (the discrepancy there being men on men) *disclaimer that this is reported rapesreported rapes. I'm sure it's slightly less onesided given I'd speculate men are less likely to report being raped by a woman. ^ that right there is a double-standard in male female interactions. Treating it like it's a 50/50 thing is (rightly) very unsettling for women. Kind of disrespectful too. I agree that it should be adressed and avoided with/by both genders, sexual violence is not something that should be diminished through being an acceptable part of shittalking, but treating a woman less harshly for that kind of joke is fair in my books.
That's absolutely idiotic logic.
Just because statistically the trend is for one group against another group doesn't make it acceptable when said in reverse. With that logic I (a white male) could say, "About to bomb these buildings. lol", but a Muslim couldn't?
Pretty fucking stupid.
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Using the word 'rape' to describe beating somebody at a video game has always been distasteful; the sooner it's no longer part of gaming's vernacular the better.
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On November 22 2014 07:12 Alchemik wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2014 07:10 Boucot wrote:On November 22 2014 07:07 sparklyresidue wrote: Hm, just in case anyone wanted to know the #realtalk, Maddelisk is in the right, Kas is correct to feel shame and is right to apologize and Nightend is a piece of shit. The end! NightEnD is indeed by far the worst character in this story. I thought everyone already knew he isn't a very smart fella Lot of people didn't give enough of a shit about him to even know that before
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