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whats funny is that the other NA/EU teams seem to not do the same. At least i have not heard it. On summoning insight crumbz agreed that scrimming koreans might be the best when monte told about his plans with clg but until know there is no announcement from other teams.
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On July 30 2014 09:47 TitusVI wrote:whats funny is that the other NA/EU teams seem to not do the same. At least i have not heard it. On summoning insight crumbz agreed that scrimming koreans might be the best when monte told about his plans with clg but until know there is no announcement from other teams.
They're not doing it because they just want. They just don't have other choice to make. Go hard or go home, missing 2 weeks of scrims from 3 isn't a legit thing, missing whole week isn't either.
I wish that western teams will move their asses next Spring and just go into Champions Winter or even Champions Spring.
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There are also disadvantages of scrimming with Koreans. Top teams probably wont scrim with you at all, those teams that do will sandbag massively and they will leak all your strats to other Koreans. So you can maybe do general practise, but you should not practise your actual strats you want to use at worlds vs Korean teams.
Well also not everbody can afford it financially.
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Also just watched yesterday's Roc vs All game. Holy shit that Riven jungle made me mad. Usually you see junglers work for the laners, here it was the other way around with very high cost. She was useless all game until that one flash stun. Granted that move won them the game, but I dont think you can justify the pick based off that.
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On July 30 2014 23:29 Redox wrote: There are also disadvantages of scrimming with Koreans. Top teams probably wont scrim with you at all, those teams that do will sandbag massively and they will leak all your strats to other Koreans. So you can maybe do general practise, but you should not practise your actual strats you want to use at worlds vs Korean teams.
Well also not everbody can afford it financially. Dont see this as prep for beating teams at worlds. Its prep to get to worlds in the first place. I don't think their bothered about Korean teams learning their strats.
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On July 30 2014 23:44 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 23:29 Redox wrote: There are also disadvantages of scrimming with Koreans. Top teams probably wont scrim with you at all, those teams that do will sandbag massively and they will leak all your strats to other Koreans. So you can maybe do general practise, but you should not practise your actual strats you want to use at worlds vs Korean teams.
Well also not everbody can afford it financially. Dont see this as prep for beating teams at worlds. Its prep to get to worlds in the first place. I don't think their bothered about Korean teams learning their strats. Oh of course for NA playoffs preparation it should be fine. I just meant for worlds preparation (which teams will do in Korea I assume) there are some problems that should not be overlooked.
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Gambit: Next loosing treak incomming until they play CW again.
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On July 30 2014 23:29 Redox wrote: There are also disadvantages of scrimming with Koreans. Top teams probably wont scrim with you at all, those teams that do will sandbag massively and they will leak all your strats to other Koreans. So you can maybe do general practise, but you should not practise your actual strats you want to use at worlds vs Korean teams.
Well also not everbody can afford it financially.
Not really. I don't think, that if CLG scrim Faker and Co, Faker will sandbag a lot because a) there is pride on the line, b) Is there a single guy who thinks that top Korean team can't beat everyone in the world with ease.
Imo, it's more about rotational play and general decisionmaking in a game, i guess, CLG can learn a lot if they scrim CJ Entus/SKT T1/Jin Air/Najin, don't think that they will be able to scrim Samsung A LOT at least.
Anyway, time to EU. Can Roccat finally close the game or Acer will teach Overpow how to be aggressive?
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Faker perma tryhards, he troll bans in lomoQ just to give their other mid the OP picks to maximize his practice against the top picks. SKT K would probably make for good scrims but I doubt outside of curiosity to examine CLG's playstyle they'll get much.
Jin Air stealths would probably be the team they'd get most value out of scrimming, CLG is better than falcons and stealths are still in about T2 of Korea easily.
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On one hand, I think it's cool that Zilean is being picked recently. On the other hand, I think they are picking it more as a copy cat than actually understanding it's strength/weaknesses.
This roccat comp is basically protect the koggers comp, which is scary late game if they get there. I just hope they time their ults properly. Please no stacking ults!
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On July 31 2014 00:18 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 23:29 Redox wrote: There are also disadvantages of scrimming with Koreans. Top teams probably wont scrim with you at all, those teams that do will sandbag massively and they will leak all your strats to other Koreans. So you can maybe do general practise, but you should not practise your actual strats you want to use at worlds vs Korean teams.
Well also not everbody can afford it financially. Not really. I don't think, that if CLG scrim Faker and Co, Faker will sandbag a lot because a) there is pride on the line, b) Is there a single guy who thinks that top Korean team can't beat everyone in the world with ease. Imo, it's more about rotational play and general decisionmaking in a game, i guess, CLG can learn a lot if they scrim CJ Entus/SKT T1/Jin Air/Najin, don't think that they will be able to scrim Samsung A LOT at least.
At the end Link gets totally broken into worlds because he scrimmed faker.
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On July 31 2014 00:24 ketchup wrote: On one hand, I think it's cool that Zilean is being picked recently. On the other hand, I think they are picking it more as a copy cat than actually understanding it's strength/weaknesses.
This roccat comp is basically protect the koggers comp, which is scary late game if they get there. I just hope they time their ults properly. Please no stacking ults!
ROC seem to have a decent understanding of Zilean. Now rengar on the other hand. Why on earth did SHC pick him. Just to deny it from ROC? Have ROC even played Rengar?
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On July 31 2014 00:28 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2014 00:24 ketchup wrote: On one hand, I think it's cool that Zilean is being picked recently. On the other hand, I think they are picking it more as a copy cat than actually understanding it's strength/weaknesses.
This roccat comp is basically protect the koggers comp, which is scary late game if they get there. I just hope they time their ults properly. Please no stacking ults! ROC seem to have a decent understanding of Zilean. Now rengar on the other hand. Why on earth did SHC pick him. "Muh mimer rango" In the jungle, because they like rango.
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On July 31 2014 00:24 Fusilero wrote: Faker perma tryhards, he troll bans in lomoQ just to give their other mid the OP picks to maximize his practice against the top picks. SKT K would probably make for good scrims but I doubt outside of curiosity to examine CLG's playstyle they'll get much.
Jin Air stealths would probably be the team they'd get most value out of scrimming, CLG is better than falcons and stealths are still in about T2 of Korea easily.
+ Stealths can't scrim Falcons because they have NLB game inc rofl. I can see CLG playing Frost/Blaze, can be real practice for Seraph/Link/dexter. And if they can play at least bunch against SKT T1 K, will worth bunch of weeks against NA counterparts.
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What happened to H2K vs G2 yesterday? lolesports.com and leaguepedia doesnt show any result..
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On July 31 2014 00:32 babobbyj wrote: What happened to H2K vs G2 yesterday? lolesports.com and leaguepedia doesnt show any result..
H2K forfeited, Febiven left the team.
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On July 31 2014 00:29 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2014 00:24 Fusilero wrote: Faker perma tryhards, he troll bans in lomoQ just to give their other mid the OP picks to maximize his practice against the top picks. SKT K would probably make for good scrims but I doubt outside of curiosity to examine CLG's playstyle they'll get much.
Jin Air stealths would probably be the team they'd get most value out of scrimming, CLG is better than falcons and stealths are still in about T2 of Korea easily. + Stealths can't scrim Falcons because they have NLB game inc rofl. I can see CLG playing Frost/Blaze, can be real practice for Seraph/Link/dexter. And if they can play at least bunch against SKT T1 K, will worth bunch of weeks against NA counterparts. Don't think it matters who they scrim since they have been losing scrims even in na.Most important thing is can monte help them start playing well.
Overpow's zilean play has been very underwhelming.Funny how roccat pretty much win only when jankos 1v9s.
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On July 31 2014 00:32 babobbyj wrote: What happened to H2K vs G2 yesterday? lolesports.com and leaguepedia doesnt show any result.. H2K forfeited due to internal issues.
On July 31 2014 00:33 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2014 00:32 babobbyj wrote: What happened to H2K vs G2 yesterday? lolesports.com and leaguepedia doesnt show any result.. H2K forfeited, Febiven left the team. Febiven leaving not entirely confirmed, it was from William Turton not our leaking lord and savior Richard Lewis. Though looking at febiven's twitter recently he seems tilted as fuck so I wouldn't be surprised. Your team is behind, goes chalice ---> tear. SELFIE PLS
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In general if it works or not I like montes way of thinking. He tries to innovate or do new stuff even it could fail its an afford for the right thing.
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On July 31 2014 00:33 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2014 00:32 babobbyj wrote: What happened to H2K vs G2 yesterday? lolesports.com and leaguepedia doesnt show any result.. H2K forfeited due to internal issues. Show nested quote +On July 31 2014 00:33 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 31 2014 00:32 babobbyj wrote: What happened to H2K vs G2 yesterday? lolesports.com and leaguepedia doesnt show any result.. H2K forfeited, Febiven left the team. Febiven leaving not entirely confirmed, it was from William Turton not our leaking lord and savior Richard Lewis. Though looking at febiven's twitter recently he seems tilted as fuck so I wouldn't be surprised. Your team is behind, goes chalice ---> tear. SELFIE PLS
Considering that Febiven is playing with Amin for a week non-stop, i feel something fishy in the air anyway.
On July 31 2014 00:33 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2014 00:29 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 31 2014 00:24 Fusilero wrote: Faker perma tryhards, he troll bans in lomoQ just to give their other mid the OP picks to maximize his practice against the top picks. SKT K would probably make for good scrims but I doubt outside of curiosity to examine CLG's playstyle they'll get much.
Jin Air stealths would probably be the team they'd get most value out of scrimming, CLG is better than falcons and stealths are still in about T2 of Korea easily. + Stealths can't scrim Falcons because they have NLB game inc rofl. I can see CLG playing Frost/Blaze, can be real practice for Seraph/Link/dexter. And if they can play at least bunch against SKT T1 K, will worth bunch of weeks against NA counterparts. Don't think it matters who they scrim since they have been losing scrims even in na.Most important thing is can monte help them start playing well. Overpow's zilean play has been very underwhelming.Funny how roccat pretty much win only when jankos 1v9s.
And before S4, CLG were dominating scrims against every team. That's why i'm saying that it's more about experience, looking how Korean teams are playing in real conditions and stuff. Can't be worse, i'm excited to see result.
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