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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
On June 24 2014 05:20 ritoky wrote: i agree that you and holyflare are aligned, you have both been pushing lynches on lurkers all game. Aligned as in both town. And It isnt my fault all my trs are active and the lurkers are scum reads. You people need to learn how to play better! | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On June 24 2014 05:22 27ninjabunnies wrote: Aligned as in both town. And It isnt my fault all my trs are active and the lurkers are scum reads. You people need to learn how to play better! yeah, people need to stop the mafia from lynching low hanging fruit. w/e if people honestly don't believe i am town at this point then the game is lost. just kinda done with "worst play ever" "worst player ever" "dumbest town ever" comments at this point. also looked into koshi calling his shot, he called it 2 and a half hrs before the deadline. the janitor was likely active between then and the deadline, but i doubt the people on right now are actually interested in finding scum. | ||
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
On June 24 2014 05:30 ritoky wrote: yeah, people need to stop the mafia from lynching low hanging fruit. w/e if people honestly don't believe i am town at this point then the game is lost. just kinda done with "worst play ever" "worst player ever" "dumbest town ever" comments at this point. also looked into koshi calling his shot, he called it 2 and a half hrs before the deadline. the janitor was likely active between then and the deadline, but i doubt the people on right now are actually interested in finding scum. Oh I am definitely interested in scum. And if you are town, you need to try and convince me and the other town why the other five are scum and which deserves a better lynch. VA, Batsnacks, OWS, CR, and SNB would be the mafia outside of you if you believe all the claims, and then me and HF as town. But if you have a better team of 5, please tell me | ||
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Amiko
United States1725 Posts
Vote Count - Day 5: Chromatically (1): sinani206 (0): ritoky (5): VayneAuthority, sinani206, Chromatically, Holyflare, 27ninjabunnies Holyflare (1): batsnacks, ObiWanShinobi (0): Alakaslam (0): 27ninjabunnies (1): ObiWanShinobi Not voting (4): Bantha Poodoo Currently ritoky is set to be lynched with 5 votes! Day will end in Remember: Voting is mandatory and has to be done in this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/451311-tl-order-lxvi-thread-for-doing-of-the-voting If there is a tie, the first person to reach that number of votes is lynched. Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you! | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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roundabound
Niue881 Posts
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Alakaslam
United States17322 Posts
On June 24 2014 06:22 VayneAuthority wrote: I think whoever is town should just all consolidate on CR, that is pretty much a guaranteed scum lynch. hasnt done anything today hes just lurking waiting for hte game to end hoping we forgot about him. THEN LETS START | ||
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Amiko
United States1725 Posts
Vote Count - Day 5: Chromatically (1): sinani206 (0): ritoky (4): Holyflare (1): batsnacks, ObiWanShinobi (0): Alakaslam (0): 27ninjabunnies (1): ObiWanShinobi Chairman Ray (2): Alakaslam, VayneAuthority Not voting (3): ritoky, Chairman Ray, roundabound Currently ritoky is set to be lynched with 4 votes! Day will end in Remember: Voting is mandatory and has to be done in this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/451311-tl-order-lxvi-thread-for-doing-of-the-voting If there is a tie, the first person to reach that number of votes is lynched. Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you! | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
TheKingoftheCats kushm4sta strongandbig 27ninjabunnies Holyflare VayneAuthority strongandbig - This is on top of the other cases on SnB that I have made. Today SnB made his first real case, and it was on Chrom: On June 23 2014 23:45 strongandbig wrote: Ok suppose chrom is town tracker and sinani is scum - the only way sinani guesses correctly who chrom visited is by random chance. He knows chrom was tracker so he would visit someone, but there was a very small chance he guesses correctly given that there's more than ten players still left. I'm comfortable saying sinani is actually tracker. Then for chrom to have visited rainbows, he either would have to be actual tracker, or sergeant using his KP or roleblock. The thing is, if chrome's scum why would be claim miller to the ritocky check? He would know that ritocky is fakeclaiming but why give up the green check? Answer: he would do this if ninja bunnies was also scum. He would have to do it, otherwise we lynch bunnies, get a red result, then ritocky reveals the fakeclaim and chrom doesn't even get the green check. This makes way more sense as a justification for a fakeclaim than what slam did btw. In a game with a known number of blue roles, there's literally no reason for slam to fakeclaim when he did. So we have a 50-50 chance of hitting mafia between slam and chrom, and I think there was way more scum motivation for chrom's fakeclaim than for slam's. ##vote: chromatically The voting does not make sense with this read. SnB believes that Chrom is mafia because he fakeclaimed to save 27nb. By this logic, SnB should vote on 27nb instead, because Chrom being mafia is dependent on 27nb being mafia, and 27nb can be mafia without Chrom being mafia. Even if both 27nb and Chrom are mafia, 27nb would be what a town would naturally vote, since there's already a wagon on her and nothing on Chrom. I think this is a soft bus on a teammate. SnB is essentially giving a mafia associative read on two people, and choosing to start a brand new wagon on the one that makes less sense. 27ninjabunnies - My last case on 27nb still stands. Just to reiterate it, I think 27nb is mafia because of the way she reacted to the ritoky fakeclaim. If ritoky fakeclaimed on me twice in previous games as VT, and he did it again this game, then I would use those past experiences as a basis for my reads on ritoky. However if I was mafia and I want to get ritoky lynched, then I would only reveal past experiences if it were convenient. This seems like the case here. I also find it fishy how she gave Holyflare a towncard without giving a case. She just said: Holyflare has been trying to figure this out and not solely complaining on how this game has gone to shit. I think that town can also give someone a townread from just an impression, but this case it is different. In this game, it is clear that mafia's main strategy is to get inactive people mislynched. Look at every lynch that's happened so far. Mafia are probably still in the mindset that pushing on inactives is the thing to do. At this stage of the game, it's probably mylo, and 27nb is already trying to figure out possible teams of 5. I find it very suspicious that she's completely disregarding holyflare in her mafia arrangements or individual reads: On June 24 2014 05:33 27ninjabunnies wrote: Oh I am definitely interested in scum. And if you are town, you need to try and convince me and the other town why the other five are scum and which deserves a better lynch. VA, Batsnacks, OWS, CR, and SNB would be the mafia outside of you if you believe all the claims, and then me and HF as town. But if you have a better team of 5, please tell me Holyflare - We've already discussed and we know that there is at least one super active player among the mafia team. Otherwise, why would mafia be shooting less active people during the night, and voting on inactive players during the day? That would be suicide. Marv flipped town, and round is pretty sure to be town now. That's why I'm investigating Holyflare. Firstly, Holyflare could be mafia because of the association with 27nb. I don't think that when it's mylo, mafia will try to pocket unconfirmed town. Secondly, mafia have been very good at making sure town lynches between inactive towns every day. Holyflare has had a great hand directing this, except for the first day. Makes sense because Holyflare wasn't here the first day because he had to study for exams. Looking at the activity of the other 5 people on my mafia list, it makes perfect sense why mafia was not able to save themselves on the first day. Lastly, it also explains kushm4sta, and I have to credit marv for this read: On June 16 2014 04:59 marvellosity wrote: holy you are so fucking scummy with your tedious fucking tunnel. On June 16 2014 06:16 marvellosity wrote: then if kush flips scum we lynch holy because he always busses On June 17 2014 04:59 Koshi wrote: I shot Kush. Not many people scumreading him though. Dnu. I went Kush --> Gumshoe --> Kush life sucks. On June 17 2014 05:18 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Koshi the Whie Malreaux (Vigilante) has been slain! kushm4sta the ?????? has been slain! VayneAuthority - This read I'm not too sure on because there's so little to work off of. I checked everyone else and they are unlikely to be mafia associated with this team, but VA might be. The thing that sticks out with VA is that he finally became active today, but all his posts so far have been about numbers and mechanics, finally ending with a post to lynch me because I'm less active. It might be mylo right now, and suddenly everyone who was inactive before has become active. VA is still trying to push for lynching inactives, even though that's the exact strategy that mafia has pushed all game. Both events make perfect sense. In the group that is left, mafia can no longer sit back because there are no more ketomai's to lynch, so they have to be active. VA is suggesting to lynch me, showing that mafia still have the mindset to lynching inactives. tl;dr This mafia team explains why: - Mafia couldn't get a mislynch on day 1 - Mafia have been great at mislynching into inactive towns every other day - Why kushm4sta was janitored - Why everyone is so active now that it is mylo - Associations between all these players ##Vote: 27ninjabunnies | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
kush being town would show that he tried to get the lynch off of kotc on day 1, so having kush shot and janitor'd would really fuck with the town and hide the fact that holy wanted someone else dead over kotc. looking back at kush's filter, i dont see anything that made him scum aside from the fact that he was goofing off for the early game. i still feel stupid for pushing to have him shot, and not having his role out in the open really screws us. cr's post is...decent, but questionable. not arguing with where his vote landed though. theres still some nonsense in there but i think its okay. | ||
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Cavalinho
United States946 Posts
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On June 24 2014 12:38 VayneAuthority wrote: well at least made him work a bit, back on the ritoky train pretty sure lynching you is the better plan tbh. | ||
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
Lmao | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
holyflare made me post on my main in signups and i got caught up switching accounts and fucked up. w/e back to yolo tunneling you. | ||
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Amiko
United States1725 Posts
Vote Count - Day 5: Chromatically (1): sinani206 (0): ritoky (5): Holyflare (1): batsnacks, ObiWanShinobi (0): Alakaslam (0): 27ninjabunnies (2): ObiWanShinobi, Chairman Ray Chairman Ray (1): Alakaslam, Not voting (2): ritoky, roundabound Currently ritoky is set to be lynched with 5 votes! Day will end in Remember: Voting is mandatory and has to be done in this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/451311-tl-order-lxvi-thread-for-doing-of-the-voting If there is a tie, the first person to reach that number of votes is lynched. Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you! | ||
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
On June 24 2014 12:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote: lol hi. holyflare made me post on my main in signups and i got caught up switching accounts and fucked up. w/e back to yolo tunneling you. I find tunneling super fun. So have fun  | ||
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