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ExO_
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kushm4sta
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ExO_
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TicaTica
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On June 11 2014 10:39 Bill Murray wrote: That's ME as mafia haha Ironic that you say. I did no enjoy you're reads but I still think you village. | ||
IAmRobik
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kushm4sta
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On June 11 2014 10:44 ExO_ wrote: and to further elaborate, what I was saying was odd was that you voted me, but I didn't see you posting. So I called you out for voting without posting anything, and them BAM suddenly you've posted several times. Looks to me like mafia just voting on a bandwagon, then getting called out for not posting, and posting a lot as a result k but that's not an omgus | ||
kushm4sta
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On June 11 2014 10:47 IAmRobik wrote: I'm gonna sheep poofter all game. are you impressed with his reads so far? | ||
IAmRobik
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Don't know what his reads are. Pretty much just calling him my top town. Like, I don't know that I agree with him that ExO is maf. I don't know about his Koshi read, but kinda agree with it. I'm wishy washy as shit about Koshi. I agree with him 100% that I'm town. Agree Chrome is town. Turns out I know what most of his reads are. Mine don't exactly align with his, but they're close. | ||
roundabound
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On June 11 2014 10:47 IAmRobik wrote: I'm gonna sheep poofter all game. On June 11 2014 10:54 IAmRobik wrote: Don't know what his reads are. Pretty much just calling him my top town. Like, I don't know that I agree with him that ExO is maf. I don't know about his Koshi read, but kinda agree with it. I'm wishy washy as shit about Koshi. I agree with him 100% that I'm town. Agree Chrome is town. Turns out I know what most of his reads are. Mine don't exactly align with his, but they're close. | ||
ExO_
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kushm4sta
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Chairman Ray
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On June 11 2014 10:32 Bill Murray wrote: exo + Show Spoiler + On June 11 2014 10:28 ExO_ wrote: Looks like a lot of baseless finger pointing, counter-finger pointing, and baseless claims to me. People are "reading" far too much into non-informative posts if you ask me. This early into the game I think a lot of people are probably very actively over-analyzing every little detail and then causing small squabbles between each other for the dumbest of reasons. So what do I think of his reads? Not much. The only person I've found really interesting so far is chairmanray, who has made some huge posts. I think he's either a townie who is (over)confident in his own ability to read into things, or a mafia having fun while looking innocent. I would lean towards the latter. It's hard to say he hasn't been serious with his vote. he was the 4th on a wagon with a non serious vote and has kept it on there. oh, hey, what a convenience i have admittedly flip flopped on him in the first couple pages so we'll see where this goes. i like this post, though, as i've liked your earlier postings My vote on round was serious. I didn't actually vote when I joked about voting the first poster on page 25. You will see in the voting thread that the timestamp does not match. I voted round after I looked into him and felt that he was a strong mafia read. I would also disagree that my vote was a mere bandwagon. At the time, the day was just starting and there were barely any votes. I casted my vote without consideration to how many people had already voted on round, because between the start of the day and the end, my views will change, and so will everyone else's. For the same reason, a mafia will have no motivation to bandwagon at the very start. I feel that the whole mafia bandwagon strategy would be employed after most people in the game have already voted. Being one of the first to vote turns attention to me, not away from me. Voting on round was simply to state my position. My first real post in this game was an analysis on why I felt that round was mafia. I put some thought into it and my reasoning was unique at the time. I think it's pretty clear that I didn't simply vote him because it was the popular opinion. The reason why I kept my vote on round is that I have not found another person who I feel has a greater chance of being mafia. I looked into Koshi after he made his first post, and I have posted what I thought about him, and I am continuing to investigate more people. If you still feel that my vote was simply a bandwagon, please give me some feedback on my original analysis of him. | ||
Bill Murray
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On June 11 2014 09:19 Tehpoofter wrote: Well at the end of the first day someone is going to die. We have 40ish hours to figure out who. So figuring out where people are is good and making people talk about other people is good as well. What if scum guy#1 says scum guy#2 is a good guy and then we end up killing scum guy#1 cause we think scum guy#2 is a donkey. Then we find out scum guy#1 is a wolf and we kill scum guy#2 the next day! I would like to think that it can work that way too. Although associative reads probably aren't the best on forums I've found. i like your response but i disagree about associative tells (albeit scum DO buddy town) On June 11 2014 09:39 roundabound wrote: Let me know if you have any more qualifiers to add on. ~moc catching up i feel like you have settled in. i was unfamiliar with robik, and i find him to be less experience than you On June 11 2014 09:43 roundabound wrote: He didnt call me scum. Thats yamato town trademark. ~moc not sure if srs On June 11 2014 09:43 Chairman Ray wrote: When I stated in the tl;dr that I disagreed with his townreads, I meant that when I first read his analysis, it gave me the impression that they were filler reads and not genuine reads. After his next post, I started to rethink whether or not his reads were meant to be filler, but at the same time I still can't get much from his townreads. To be more specific, statements such as "Not an awkward entrance." and "Town for being around joyfully" are very general and conceptual. The best reads on people are less binary than that and the way in which someone is being not awkward or being joyful is far more important than the general concept. Koshi is not the only one who's been making a lot of general statements, but it stuck out to me more because he initially claimed to be tryharding, and his read on Chrom was a lot more in depth. Agree. His FoS versus his vote felt like what mafia do early game so + scumpoints however, the fact he's trying to take the game from the RVS towards bigger posts is + town don't see him as a viable lynch the same way I don't see mocsta/robik hydra (roundabound) which im going to ##unvote | ||
roundabound
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Tehpoofter
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On June 11 2014 10:42 kushm4sta wrote: yeah but how is that an omgus? it woudl be an omgus if i suspected you after you suspected me. but i voted you before you even mentioned me. Oh you're right I'm wrong. Not OMGUS. OMGIS though applies here too me. | ||
Bill Murray
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On June 11 2014 10:47 TicaTica wrote: Ironic that you say. I did no enjoy you're reads but I still think you village. my reads have changed since i actually read the thread most mafia are likely yet to post | ||
Tehpoofter
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I'd be scared to sheep me day 1. As village in forums my track record is quite poor. I have voted for I think a couple of PRs and only 1 scum. Here's hoping that changes today! I can be your top villager though. | ||
Bill Murray
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On June 11 2014 10:54 IAmRobik wrote: Don't know what his reads are. Pretty much just calling him my top town. Like, I don't know that I agree with him that ExO is maf. I don't know about his Koshi read, but kinda agree with it. I'm wishy washy as shit about Koshi. I agree with him 100% that I'm town. Agree Chrome is town. Turns out I know what most of his reads are. Mine don't exactly align with his, but they're close. so you're going to sheep someone that isn't your hydra head? seems scummy to me if you're maf you know alignments but you're unwilling to accept the opinion of someone you KNOW who their role is AS TOWN? ##vote: roundabound | ||
Bill Murray
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On June 11 2014 11:02 Chairman Ray wrote: My vote on round was serious. I didn't actually vote when I joked about voting the first poster on page 25. You will see in the voting thread that the timestamp does not match. I voted round after I looked into him and felt that he was a strong mafia read. I would also disagree that my vote was a mere bandwagon. At the time, the day was just starting and there were barely any votes. I casted my vote without consideration to how many people had already voted on round, because between the start of the day and the end, my views will change, and so will everyone else's. For the same reason, a mafia will have no motivation to bandwagon at the very start. I feel that the whole mafia bandwagon strategy would be employed after most people in the game have already voted. Being one of the first to vote turns attention to me, not away from me. Voting on round was simply to state my position. My first real post in this game was an analysis on why I felt that round was mafia. I put some thought into it and my reasoning was unique at the time. I think it's pretty clear that I didn't simply vote him because it was the popular opinion. The reason why I kept my vote on round is that I have not found another person who I feel has a greater chance of being mafia. I looked into Koshi after he made his first post, and I have posted what I thought about him, and I am continuing to investigate more people. If you still feel that my vote was simply a bandwagon, please give me some feedback on my original analysis of him. your vote was not nearly as +maf as bat's was batsnacks is mafia if roundabound is because robik has some pretty serious early associative tells with him I.M.O. i like your defense here, which might be due to the fact that i liked your posting a couple pages ago, so i began to read you /have begun to read you as town you are someone i wouldnt want to lynch, even when i was leaning maf, because there are like15 lurkers to pick from to pressure into posting | ||
kushm4sta
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