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On December 02 2007 06:48 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2007 04:32 SuperJongMan wrote: lol.. I disagree with a lot of what's said here.
Mind does have killer macro. You guys missed it? You don't crush Oov and beat Savior lategame without it. I really agree with Mind higher, other scrubs lower. I don't even like Mind but... Consider this, Anytime says he loses more to Hwasin than beats him in their cross-team practices, Hwasin is Bisu's insurance. Mind just raped Bisu. And you guys as well as me saw the sickest rape. Bisu didn't not play well. Mind just stepped on him... step step step. I remember cuz I lost 400 bucks feelin sad. T.T I know circular logic doesn't work in SC, but consider who Mind is... He's MSL champ now that went through just about every great previous MSL champ on his brackets. That makes him KING OF KINGSSs -_-;; for this month in my head.
Savior/Bisu games... Only time it was close was on Katrina when Savior raped that back Nex. The third game was T.T and the 2nd half of the 2nd was T.T Everyone told me to watch and I did... I just ended up feeling bad that my favorite Zerg looked so weak... sigh. I mean, mass sairs is imba -_________-;;
The best game in OSL was Hwasin/Upmagic. I think what Upmagic did at those positions on Katrina are REALLY worth looking closely at. 12 v 3 on Katrina is hell. 3 base has the biggest and faggest drop front to defend. I really like how he raped, yes raped, Hwasin with management. His map control and scouting, his game flow, really good. He had hacks on on the left side of the map most game. This game made me like Up a lot more... a lot more...
Sea.. lol ~_~. He passes an OSC group so you put him in power rank? I mean, I can understand Much, he's on a tear. Sea passes an OSC and his forecast looks good ~_~ ok. I'd rather have Flash on the list. That said, I think plenty of people can beat Sea in the upcoming OSC.
All that said, I forgot say, GJ Steve. I'm not tragically sad at this PR but I definately disagree with lots of it. So much I'd punch your teeth out... in a loving way. Power Rank is about who is playing best right now. Flash's OSL group was shit easy for him, but not because he's particularily strong, and then he lost to Stork. He didn't look good in any of the games. After watching Flash's games and watching Sea and Much play, I came to the conclusion that both Sea and Much are playing significantly better than Flash.
Honestly Steve young Flash just wins. He's done more in his starleague career than Sea's ever done. I agree Sea is the better play, but if Flash just wins the trademark of a great player.
Also, GGPlay (4-2 Proleague winning making it to MSL survivor) and maybe Xellos for CBNC. Maybe not Xellos, but he did make MSL Semis and look pretty good doing so.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
Shudder made OSL and MSL group stage too, and nobody wants to make a case for him. Shudder lost because his group was far more difficult than Frozean, Rock, and Savior's recent ZvT. Flash plays better than Shudder, but neither of them play as good as Sea and Much are currently playing.
GGPlay and Xellos fall into the category of 'players who are doing reasonably well but don't deserve a power rank spot'. There are lots of players in this category, and like I said I chose to specifically mention only those four because they're the most relevant to happenings this month
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Great Power Rank Steve! Savior could be put a bit lower, since I think any top Terran can basically beat him nowadays (Hwasin, Iris, Light, Flash, etc), but it hardly matters because Bisu is first. (:D)GC
On a somewhat related note, where is the December Kespa ranking?
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I agree with your ranks Steve, but I'm saying despite you saying he doesn't play well Flash keeps getting results. Good ranks though looking forward to the new ones once OSL has concluded.
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if anytime makes it out of his OSC group, he should be on the bottom top 10 somewhere. i mean, he has a much harder group than sea for his OSC group, and he did qualify for MSL. he also is doing very well in proleague
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Savior is having problems with Bisu mainly because there simply is not an answer for zerg to counter what Bisu does (fast expo, constant harrass, mass sair, macro while doing all of the above and then win). He's trying to invent an answer, but hasn't been able to do so yet. When he does (or somebody else does), it will probably be the next revolution of Starcraft.
Mind is better than Bisu. Or at least I think/ hope so.
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Bisu v Savior game three. When Savior dropped Bisu destroying the natural, he also went around for a frontal attack a moment later. I think the frontal attack was the mistake. Basically Bisu had his way with Saviors overlords from that point. Dedicating those frontal attack hydralisk to Ovi defense may have made the game for Savior.
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I'm also wondering about Pusan, I thought he may make this power rank. I mean who is the ace master Pusan or Much? ^_^. Pusan has been incredible lately, he is 27-11 recently and has one of the best PvP percentages. MBC knows how to train their protoss.
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Pusan's chances kinda went to shit after he lost to FBH and this mediocre zerg whos name i can't remember to get knocked of MSL survivor.
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On December 02 2007 16:07 Nick_54 wrote: Pusan's chances kinda went to shit after he lost to FBH and this mediocre zerg whos name i can't remember to get knocked of MSL survivor.
That Zerg would be Hogil.
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dont know who it wrote but i think it was fakesteve himself "powerrank is not about who was hot 2 months ago..:" so i assume powerrank is not about who might be hot in the future that said, hawsins placement looks kinda funny as i dont remember him delivering anything this month
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mind is too low savior is too high
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On December 02 2007 04:32 SuperJongMan wrote: lol.. I disagree with a lot of what's said here.
Mind does have killer macro. You guys missed it? You don't crush Oov and beat Savior lategame without it. I really agree with Mind higher, other scrubs lower. I don't even like Mind but... Consider this, Anytime says he loses more to Hwasin than beats him in their cross-team practices, Hwasin is Bisu's insurance. Mind just raped Bisu. And you guys as well as me saw the sickest rape. Bisu didn't not play well. Mind just stepped on him... step step step. I remember cuz I lost 400 bucks feelin sad. T.T I know circular logic doesn't work in SC, but consider who Mind is... He's MSL champ now that went through just about every great previous MSL champ on his brackets. That makes him KING OF KINGSSs -_-;; for this month in my head.
Savior/Bisu games... Only time it was close was on Katrina when Savior raped that back Nex. The third game was T.T and the 2nd half of the 2nd was T.T Everyone told me to watch and I did... I just ended up feeling bad that my favorite Zerg looked so weak... sigh. I mean, mass sairs is imba -_________-;;
The best game in OSL was Hwasin/Upmagic. I think what Upmagic did at those positions on Katrina are REALLY worth looking closely at. 12 v 3 on Katrina is hell. 3 base has the biggest and faggest drop front to defend. I really like how he raped, yes raped, Hwasin with management. His map control and scouting, his game flow, really good. He had hacks on on the left side of the map most game. This game made me like Up a lot more... a lot more...
Sea.. lol ~_~. He passes an OSC group so you put him in power rank? I mean, I can understand Much, he's on a tear. Sea passes an OSC and his forecast looks good ~_~ ok. I'd rather have Flash on the list. That said, I think plenty of people can beat Sea in the upcoming OSC.
All that said, I forgot say, GJ Steve. I'm not tragically sad at this PR but I definately disagree with lots of it. So much I'd punch your teeth out... in a loving way. This is right on. Agreed 100%.
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There are so many players who should be in the rank instead noobish Sea[Shield]!
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Steve is a massive Sea fanboy Apparently winning an OSC group and doing mediocre in proleague is enough for number 9.
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On December 02 2007 20:43 Piste wrote: There are so many players who should be in the rank instead noobish Sea[Shield]!
agree
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Braavos36362 Posts
Piste, TheFoReveRwaR, joeki, can you name and justify "many players" who you think should be there instead of Sea? I doubt you can.
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i think light should be lower than sea or even off the list.
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On December 02 2007 20:50 joeki wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2007 20:43 Piste wrote: There are so many players who should be in the rank instead noobish Sea[Shield]! agree
you guys are noobs if you cant see how incredibly great a terran he is...
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