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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
Oov, Kwanro and Bisu. I dont see hwasin getting any farther :p
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First time making a post like this.. sorry if it's not the best. :D But no one made one so I thought I might give it a shot.
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United States5262 Posts
It's well done ViRii, but we can only tell if it's a job well done when you follow up and post results immediately after the games. That means if you make threads like these, you have to stay up and watch the games. That's why I know I can't make these threads cause I live in the US Pacific and would fall asleep after maybe 1 or 2 games.
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CA10824 Posts
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jkillashark: Yeah... I'm going to do my best to stay up and watch them all and post results immediately. If not, I'll post them like 5 hours later when I wake up. Is that good enough?
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It´s sad to see Hwasin x Bisu played in a Bo3 would be so much fun a Bo5
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man... Bisu better not lose. I'll seriously kill him if he does. I"M COUNTING ON YOU BISU!!!!
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China3334 Posts
this early thread makes me nervous -v- OK, telling myself hwasin spent his friday in beijing and he must be tired.
Bisu bo2 games fighting!
EDIT: hwasin's flight between seoul and beijing reminds me that MBC delays one and half an hour of the live broadcasting. so today's games will start at 20:00 korean time (4:00 am TL Old time).
from MBC Game site: 20:00GOM TV MSL Season3 13회 (16강 2,3set) LIVE
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Netherlands19120 Posts
Bisu is gonna get fucking stomped, and after that Hwasin is gonna get stomped by Kwanro.
It's divinely ordained.
Fuck Bisu.
Savior for president!
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bisu can't lose twice to hwasin.... I hope
+ Show Spoiler +That BO5 last time doesn't count!
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
Mind Kwanro (I hope! Don't like Light at all) Oh god, this is too hard. 50/50
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On October 20 2007 01:39 freelander wrote:bisu can't lose twice to hwasin.... I hope + Show Spoiler +That BO5 last time doesn't count!
he lost twice to a noob called Flash nvm, I hope Bisu win too...It's just because, Hwasin is not "just another zerg"
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On October 20 2007 01:35 Nyovne wrote: Bisu is gonna get fucking stomped, and after that Hwasin is gonna get stomped by Kwanro.
It's divinely ordained.
Fuck Bisu.
Savior for president!
There's no part of this message I didn't like.
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8713 Posts
Everyone commenting on Bisu/Hwasin!
Keep in mind that Python favors Terran in TvP, with just over a 60% win rate. Hwasin is 4-2 on Python TvP and 1-1 against Bisu on Python. Bisu is 3-2 on Python, taking wins from lowly Freedom, Flash and Hwasin.
In their first meeting, Bisu (12) and Hwasin (3), Bisu starts with a fast DT drop against Hwasin's 1fact CC. The DT's do significant damage, killing 8-10 SCV's, stopping mining at the expansion, and delaying the building of factories. Bisu follows up by expanding to his nat and the main at 9, blocking it with pylons to successfully prevent an otherwise deadly vulture raid. Hwasin powers off of his main and nat, fighting for the middle, but Bisu defends. Bisu adds stargates and takes the top left expansion. Hwasin finally overpowers Bisu's ground units, but is famously warded off by scouts. GG
In their second meeting, they get the same positions, Bisu (12) and Hwasin (3). Bisu opts for 1gate range, robotics, expand. Hwasin again with 1fact CC. Bisu brings out obs from the robo and both players get to macroing. Bisu attempts to take the main at 9 as in the previous game, but has major problems with vulture harrass. End result: he never transfers probes and loses some goons. I think this was the game clincher because Hwasin then slow pushes to expand to the min-only between his and Bisu's base, and Bisu lacks enough units to repel it. A mid-game DT drop does minimal damage. Bisu takes the bottom left "island" expand and techs for arbiters while Hwasin takes the bottom right and continues to push for Bisu's base. Bisu has no answer to the Terran push as arbiters come too late to have any effect. GG
More recently, in his WCG games, Hwasin has offed 3 big-name Protoss players on Python: Stork, Much, and Nal_rA. In all 3 games he does 1fact CC, with slight variations in his build depending on what his opponent does, but he also gets either 12/3 or 6/9 positions in every game. It's hard to say if he'd do anything but 1fact CC. Like with his games against Bisu, he always expands toward the min-only and punishes his opponent for attempts at getting a 3rd nexus up. The only game that played out differently was against Nal_rA's 2-nexus carriers, but Hwasin still managed to win.
It's difficult to make predictions when there aren't enough 12v6, 9v3, 12v9 and 6v3 games to look at. But if it's 12v3 or 9v6, Bisu has got to do something special to slow down Hwasin's Python TvP before mid-game.
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In Bisu's other games, he opens with 2gate ob expand against Flash in a 9v12 game. He probably does 2gate obs cuz flash is gay. Indeed, Flash is doing 3rax MnM + Tank rush. Bisu adjusts to 3gate goon + reaver and owns Flash.
Against Light, it's a 12v3 like both of his games vs Hwasin. He opens with early zealot harrass and then reaver harrass. Light does 1fact CC. Bisu takes his nat and 9's main, again like in his games vs Hwasin, and this time he loses 9 as Light powers off of his 2 CC's. It seems his early harrass did not do enough damage. Light pushes on up to Bisu's nat to finish off the game.
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I'm going to laugh so hard if Bisu gets kicked out of MSL by Hwasin. That would feel so... right.
PS : Interesting comments Nony (unlike mine lol :|), thanks.
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On October 20 2007 03:06 Matoo- wrote: I'm going to laugh so hard if Bisu gets kicked out of MSL by Hwasin. That would feel so... right.
Why? Did Bisu talk shit about Hwasin at some point?
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On October 20 2007 03:07 NonY[rC] wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2007 03:06 Matoo- wrote: I'm going to laugh so hard if Bisu gets kicked out of MSL by Hwasin. That would feel so... right. Why? Did Bisu talk shit about Hwasin at some point?
he called him "insurance", right?
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