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On May 22 2014 08:06 Tehpoofter wrote:Praise ABBA I have returned Glad to see all this activity while I slept  Catching up now while leaving this page open. Anything I needs to know? Who is around?
Scumeling claimed to be Jafar in Aladdin 2. Clearly is a djinn that needs to be lynched. Also it's obvious that he's mafia because I can summarize his useful content as:
I've now finished summarizing.
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On May 22 2014 08:07 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 08:04 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 08:03 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:00 Cavalinho wrote:
WoS, look into Steveling. HF is town and Hapa is also probably town.
I'm boggled by the fact that marv said having a huge filter is good for town. It's not when there's nothing there but useless garbage that clogs up the thread and doesn't accomplish anything.
Also, who said we should lynch layabout? When you're talking about a guy that gets lynched day 1/2 a lot, maybe, just maybe you should take the quality of their play into consideration. Maybe I'm biased because I got lynched day 1 a lot for stupid reasons, but I still really want to kill Steveling today over anything and everything else for the moment.
I'd be really wary of people who say that just having a big filter is good for town. Steveling would be a terrible lynch. I get that you don't like his play, and his play is very spammy, but it's also very clearly town. Just because his spam is "contentless" doesn't mean it isn't genuine. Look at some of his other games - he plays like that all the time. Before we start arguing, I want to know what "genuine" is. Genuine can be many things. What's "townie" about his filter is that he's constantly posting without thinking, getting into many fights, and is generally wearing his emotions on his sleeve. Contrast this with normal mafia instincts to hide, avoid conflict, etc. Also, look at his past games and compare them to this one. If you haven't done that, then your analysis is meaningless.
My town and scummy plays are day and night.
Geript is geript so whatever but cav thinks that I'm purposely playing like my last town game but in reality I'm scum.
It's rly gonna bite me in the ass when one day suddenly I'll be all logical and stuff and you guys will know that I rolled scum.
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On May 22 2014 08:07 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 08:04 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 08:03 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:00 Cavalinho wrote:
WoS, look into Steveling. HF is town and Hapa is also probably town.
I'm boggled by the fact that marv said having a huge filter is good for town. It's not when there's nothing there but useless garbage that clogs up the thread and doesn't accomplish anything.
Also, who said we should lynch layabout? When you're talking about a guy that gets lynched day 1/2 a lot, maybe, just maybe you should take the quality of their play into consideration. Maybe I'm biased because I got lynched day 1 a lot for stupid reasons, but I still really want to kill Steveling today over anything and everything else for the moment.
I'd be really wary of people who say that just having a big filter is good for town. Steveling would be a terrible lynch. I get that you don't like his play, and his play is very spammy, but it's also very clearly town. Just because his spam is "contentless" doesn't mean it isn't genuine. Look at some of his other games - he plays like that all the time. Before we start arguing, I want to know what "genuine" is. Genuine can be many things. What's "townie" about his filter is that he's constantly posting without thinking, getting into many fights, and is generally wearing his emotions on his sleeve. Contrast this with normal mafia instincts to hide, avoid conflict, etc. Also, look at his past games and compare them to this one. If you haven't done that, then your analysis is meaningless.
I've played with him before. He is doing the exact same thing he was doing in Cell, making people feel smart and getting people to ignore him. It's spammier than normal, but that's not the issue that I have with him.
Like some of the players right now are just calling it boring (Koshi) without trying to see if it's legitimately true or not. Why is this not an issue for you?
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On May 22 2014 08:09 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 08:06 Tehpoofter wrote:Praise ABBA I have returned Glad to see all this activity while I slept Catching up now while leaving this page open. Anything I needs to know? Who is around? Scumeling claimed to be Jafar in Aladdin 2. Clearly is a djinn that needs to be lynched. Also it's obvious that he's mafia because I can summarize his useful content as: I've now finished summarizing.
tldr
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I absolutely love being read as scum It's amazing!
So more reads from page 68 and on.
Sqrt calling Xat obvtown is weird to me. Even Xat questions that read (which I found hilarious). Even when sqrt responds to Xat, all he does is quote things Xat said. But what in those posts point to Xat as town? I just don't understand where Sqrt is on this?
Steveling permanently green stamped me. Whuuuuutttt. I'm flattered though
I'm still not anywhere near impressed with Thrawn. He comes in and asks odin if they have played together, then leaves... What? Where is the amazing late day 1 plays that everyone has been talking about?
Geript wanting to lynch BH is pretty brave, even with the claim -well claim from both of them...and slip? eh confused on that-.
I want to know why Kush thinks that hapa is pretending to be town.
I haven't really focused really on Valenius- I'll read his filter later. but I do like his post here. Seriously, the Slam thing was the best. I'd prob sheep this guy just from this post. But then again, I haven't read the rest of his filter. Also Valenius I did not mean for my post to sound contradictory. More active mafia tend to last lnger than lurker mafia. However, because active mafia post more, you have a better chance of finding slips there (that is why I said I focus on activity as well as the lurkers.)
So after all this( I'm currently up to page 75ish), I'd lynch these people today: Tamburini, Thrawn, Jampi, Layabout, Sqrt, Slam, Geript, . Possibly in that order.
I think that covers mostly everything, yeah?
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On May 22 2014 08:09 layabout wrote:If marv convinces yall to lynch me, which i am rather tempted to just let happen you should flip this guy: Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 22:55 jampidampi wrote:
So after skimming the thread I realize that I'm left with less time than I'd like to have, so I'll just make a list that will probably never be explained.
Would not lynch today:
Meapak
Hapa
Holy
poofter
BlueyD
austin
Koshi
BH
fool
geript
bkq
ceph
wave
xatalos
Preffered lynch:
layabout
Could lynch today:
Valenius
thrawn
bunnies
sqrt
Yellow
tamburini
MysteryMeat
No clue:
slam
marv
steveling
kitaman
cavalinho
If I forgot someone then I'm sorry, they belong probably to the no clue list.
##Vote: layabout this is his first and only mention of me. it is unsubstantiated but follows the tone of the thread. a list takes a significant amount of time to produce compared to a sentence or two to explain your vote, he is putting in time but missing out the important bit for a towny. it looks very much like a mafia vote to get a wagon rolling he is giving momentum to a trail of thoughts without adding anything of substance to it whatsoever. I am dissapointed in you guys
Be dissappointed in your own play. This is literally the first read of any substance you've made all game.
Talk to me about some other people - mtamburini and ritoky are a good start.
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On May 22 2014 08:12 Cavalinho wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 08:07 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:04 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 08:03 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:00 Cavalinho wrote:
WoS, look into Steveling. HF is town and Hapa is also probably town.
I'm boggled by the fact that marv said having a huge filter is good for town. It's not when there's nothing there but useless garbage that clogs up the thread and doesn't accomplish anything.
Also, who said we should lynch layabout? When you're talking about a guy that gets lynched day 1/2 a lot, maybe, just maybe you should take the quality of their play into consideration. Maybe I'm biased because I got lynched day 1 a lot for stupid reasons, but I still really want to kill Steveling today over anything and everything else for the moment.
I'd be really wary of people who say that just having a big filter is good for town. Steveling would be a terrible lynch. I get that you don't like his play, and his play is very spammy, but it's also very clearly town. Just because his spam is "contentless" doesn't mean it isn't genuine. Look at some of his other games - he plays like that all the time. Before we start arguing, I want to know what "genuine" is. Genuine can be many things. What's "townie" about his filter is that he's constantly posting without thinking, getting into many fights, and is generally wearing his emotions on his sleeve. Contrast this with normal mafia instincts to hide, avoid conflict, etc. Also, look at his past games and compare them to this one. If you haven't done that, then your analysis is meaningless. I've played with him before. He is doing the exact same thing he was doing in Cell, making people feel smart and getting people to ignore him. It's spammier than normal, but that's not the issue that I have with him. Like some of the players right now are just calling it boring (Koshi) without trying to see if it's legitimately true or not. Why is this not an issue for you?
Nothing in this post describes why Steveling is scum. You compare his play in Cell to his play here, but they look very different at first glance to me. He is definetely active in Cell, but seems a lot more calm. Compared to this game, he's picking fights and is generally an attention-whore.
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Random stuff before I eat and get a chance to do proper reading later:
BH probably town. Think I said that before. I know BH is well aware of his meta and whatnot but I've even him do this RNg thing too many times to count and while he's certainly capable of this as both alignments, he generally isn't this blatantly useless as scum. This would be one of those town games where he'd be perfectly happy getting killed or lynched as town, and there are a few of them. It annoys me but this is what I think.
I can't say I've read ritoky's recent stuff but based on his earlier ones (the me/MZ read post) and skimming recent things I think he COULD be scum.....his posts just feel...wrong to me? I dunno I can't really explain it better. Like his reads come out of left field and don't make any sense to me at all even though he explains them. That could indicate just a different player with a different play style but it could also indicate a different mindset IMO. Dunno maybe when I read him more closely I can explain better. Just feels on him right now and while it's not necessarily mafia feels, I get the non-Euclidian geometry feeling from his posts. Lovecraft styles. No that's not a crumb.
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Oh sqrt. I meant to chase you up on this: "All other factions are anti town. That's confirmed."
When was this confirmed? Apologies if you answered it later and i missed it.
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btw didn't slam claim blue?
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On May 22 2014 08:18 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 08:12 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 08:07 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:04 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 08:03 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:00 Cavalinho wrote:
WoS, look into Steveling. HF is town and Hapa is also probably town.
I'm boggled by the fact that marv said having a huge filter is good for town. It's not when there's nothing there but useless garbage that clogs up the thread and doesn't accomplish anything.
Also, who said we should lynch layabout? When you're talking about a guy that gets lynched day 1/2 a lot, maybe, just maybe you should take the quality of their play into consideration. Maybe I'm biased because I got lynched day 1 a lot for stupid reasons, but I still really want to kill Steveling today over anything and everything else for the moment.
I'd be really wary of people who say that just having a big filter is good for town. Steveling would be a terrible lynch. I get that you don't like his play, and his play is very spammy, but it's also very clearly town. Just because his spam is "contentless" doesn't mean it isn't genuine. Look at some of his other games - he plays like that all the time. Before we start arguing, I want to know what "genuine" is. Genuine can be many things. What's "townie" about his filter is that he's constantly posting without thinking, getting into many fights, and is generally wearing his emotions on his sleeve. Contrast this with normal mafia instincts to hide, avoid conflict, etc. Also, look at his past games and compare them to this one. If you haven't done that, then your analysis is meaningless. I've played with him before. He is doing the exact same thing he was doing in Cell, making people feel smart and getting people to ignore him. It's spammier than normal, but that's not the issue that I have with him. Like some of the players right now are just calling it boring (Koshi) without trying to see if it's legitimately true or not. Why is this not an issue for you? Nothing in this post describes why Steveling is scum. You compare his play in Cell to his play here, but they look very different at first glance to me. He is definetely active in Cell, but seems a lot more calm. Compared to this game, he's picking fights and is generally an attention-whore.
Then check my filter for the big, red-titled post on why I thought he was scum.
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On May 22 2014 08:07 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 08:04 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 08:03 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:00 Cavalinho wrote:
WoS, look into Steveling. HF is town and Hapa is also probably town.
I'm boggled by the fact that marv said having a huge filter is good for town. It's not when there's nothing there but useless garbage that clogs up the thread and doesn't accomplish anything.
Also, who said we should lynch layabout? When you're talking about a guy that gets lynched day 1/2 a lot, maybe, just maybe you should take the quality of their play into consideration. Maybe I'm biased because I got lynched day 1 a lot for stupid reasons, but I still really want to kill Steveling today over anything and everything else for the moment.
I'd be really wary of people who say that just having a big filter is good for town. Steveling would be a terrible lynch. I get that you don't like his play, and his play is very spammy, but it's also very clearly town. Just because his spam is "contentless" doesn't mean it isn't genuine. Look at some of his other games - he plays like that all the time. Before we start arguing, I want to know what "genuine" is. Genuine can be many things. What's "townie" about his filter is that he's constantly posting without thinking, getting into many fights, and is generally wearing his emotions on his sleeve. Contrast this with normal mafia instincts to hide, avoid conflict, etc. Also, look at his past games and compare them to this one. If you haven't done that, then your analysis is meaningless.
He was spammy at points in cell. He came off as quite genuine at points in cell. Look at how much content he produced in Cell. What do you mean none? You're trying to tell me that his game this game is just like his game in Cell. I agree and would lynch him for it.
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On May 22 2014 08:06 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 08:03 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:00 Cavalinho wrote:
WoS, look into Steveling. HF is town and Hapa is also probably town.
I'm boggled by the fact that marv said having a huge filter is good for town. It's not when there's nothing there but useless garbage that clogs up the thread and doesn't accomplish anything.
Also, who said we should lynch layabout? When you're talking about a guy that gets lynched day 1/2 a lot, maybe, just maybe you should take the quality of their play into consideration. Maybe I'm biased because I got lynched day 1 a lot for stupid reasons, but I still really want to kill Steveling today over anything and everything else for the moment.
I'd be really wary of people who say that just having a big filter is good for town. Steveling would be a terrible lynch. I get that you don't like his play, and his play is very spammy, but it's also very clearly town. Just because his spam is "contentless" doesn't mean it isn't genuine. Look at some of his other games - he plays like that all the time. where are you gettin this info from? The database only has 2 of his games in it and they are both scum, Surprisingly Normal Mini Mafia VII Mafia Framer Survived Cell Mini Mafia Mafia Vanilla Survived Day 3 The only game he's played town in is in yuma where he was just spammy because he thought he caught someone and was being stubborn. I get that he looks towny this game but why are you implying this is "obvious town meta"?
hapa you need to answer this ^^^^^^
replace yuma with glory seeker
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On May 22 2014 08:20 Valenius wrote:
Oh sqrt. I meant to chase you up on this: "All other factions are anti town. That's confirmed."
When was this confirmed? Apologies if you answered it later and i missed it.
Quote from OP:
Besides Town there will be 4 other factions present.
Town-Wincondition: Eliminate all Factions, which endanger town!
All factions endanger town, aka they're all anti town.
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On May 22 2014 07:12 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 06:44 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Just got off of work!!!
Read a bit through the forum while I was working, but going to quickly reread it again, so it'll be about 15-20mins to look through everything. If there is anything you want me to focus on, let me know.
Also, BH. Wtf? You claim a BLUE role when only 3 votes on you?
How...stupid... is .... that....
But we claimed not roles, but names. So here is te thing; it is WIFOM for scum. Who do they shoot? Me? BH? Why? What if we are doc saves? What if we are docs- therefore the perfect shot?
See what happened here is we claimed "blue". But what does that let out to scum that can't be nullified by other blues in a game this size? Now if BH was not BH but rather some newb and said "folks I b doc" now that is sstupid. Because then scum is like "o g thanks" But as it is scum is like "YES WE HAVE TWO POWER ROLES CLAIMED LETS SHOOT" and then the other guy says "no stfu you idiot they could be veterans, we need stack shots" and other guy says "u fill of shut they are fakeclaiming" and another guy says "someone actually dying is more important. BH is a strong player so you know doc saves will be on him, but we don't want Alakaslam dead too early because we need our lylo lynch, so shoot outside those two" And the qt gets hard to read XD
i cannot comprehend
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On May 22 2014 08:20 Cavalinho wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 08:18 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:12 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 08:07 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:04 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 08:03 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:00 Cavalinho wrote:
WoS, look into Steveling. HF is town and Hapa is also probably town.
I'm boggled by the fact that marv said having a huge filter is good for town. It's not when there's nothing there but useless garbage that clogs up the thread and doesn't accomplish anything.
Also, who said we should lynch layabout? When you're talking about a guy that gets lynched day 1/2 a lot, maybe, just maybe you should take the quality of their play into consideration. Maybe I'm biased because I got lynched day 1 a lot for stupid reasons, but I still really want to kill Steveling today over anything and everything else for the moment.
I'd be really wary of people who say that just having a big filter is good for town. Steveling would be a terrible lynch. I get that you don't like his play, and his play is very spammy, but it's also very clearly town. Just because his spam is "contentless" doesn't mean it isn't genuine. Look at some of his other games - he plays like that all the time. Before we start arguing, I want to know what "genuine" is. Genuine can be many things. What's "townie" about his filter is that he's constantly posting without thinking, getting into many fights, and is generally wearing his emotions on his sleeve. Contrast this with normal mafia instincts to hide, avoid conflict, etc. Also, look at his past games and compare them to this one. If you haven't done that, then your analysis is meaningless. I've played with him before. He is doing the exact same thing he was doing in Cell, making people feel smart and getting people to ignore him. It's spammier than normal, but that's not the issue that I have with him. Like some of the players right now are just calling it boring (Koshi) without trying to see if it's legitimately true or not. Why is this not an issue for you? Nothing in this post describes why Steveling is scum. You compare his play in Cell to his play here, but they look very different at first glance to me. He is definetely active in Cell, but seems a lot more calm. Compared to this game, he's picking fights and is generally an attention-whore. Then check my filter for the big, red-titled post on why I thought he was scum.
But that's the thing - those types of posts you point out "after the spam" really aren't present in Cell Mafia. He just seems as a whole so much more hyper and emotional in this game.
Anyway, talk to me about some other people. Layabout, tambo, ritoky, etc.
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On May 22 2014 08:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
Random stuff before I eat and get a chance to do proper reading later:
BH probably town. Think I said that before. I know BH is well aware of his meta and whatnot but I've even him do this RNg thing too many times to count and while he's certainly capable of this as both alignments, he generally isn't this blatantly useless as scum. This would be one of those town games where he'd be perfectly happy getting killed or lynched as town, and there are a few of them. It annoys me but this is what I think.
I can't say I've read ritoky's recent stuff but based on his earlier ones (the me/MZ read post) and skimming recent things I think he COULD be scum.....his posts just feel...wrong to me? I dunno I can't really explain it better. Like his reads come out of left field and don't make any sense to me at all even though he explains them. That could indicate just a different player with a different play style but it could also indicate a different mindset IMO. Dunno maybe when I read him more closely I can explain better. Just feels on him right now and while it's not necessarily mafia feels, I get the non-Euclidian geometry feeling from his posts. Lovecraft styles. No that's not a crumb.
Are you kidding me Wave? He was this blatantly useless in Ver's game. Seriously?
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Guys, I wouldn't be caught in this position if I was scum, period.
The fact that geript/cav even consider me as scum proves that I'm not. It also hints that they are buddies, prolly 4th party with non-town favorable conditions.
Woah that was sig worthy.
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On May 22 2014 08:22 sqrtofneg1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 08:20 Valenius wrote:
Oh sqrt. I meant to chase you up on this: "All other factions are anti town. That's confirmed."
When was this confirmed? Apologies if you answered it later and i missed it. Quote from OP: Besides Town there will be 4 other factions present. Town-Wincondition: Eliminate all Factions, which endanger town! All factions endanger town, aka they're all anti town.
Ah. Different reads on that then. I read it as Town's wincondition is to eliminate all factions that can cause harm to town.
i.e.
3 scum groups, 1 mason group, kill scum, mason can live.
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On May 22 2014 08:24 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 08:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
Random stuff before I eat and get a chance to do proper reading later:
BH probably town. Think I said that before. I know BH is well aware of his meta and whatnot but I've even him do this RNg thing too many times to count and while he's certainly capable of this as both alignments, he generally isn't this blatantly useless as scum. This would be one of those town games where he'd be perfectly happy getting killed or lynched as town, and there are a few of them. It annoys me but this is what I think.
I can't say I've read ritoky's recent stuff but based on his earlier ones (the me/MZ read post) and skimming recent things I think he COULD be scum.....his posts just feel...wrong to me? I dunno I can't really explain it better. Like his reads come out of left field and don't make any sense to me at all even though he explains them. That could indicate just a different player with a different play style but it could also indicate a different mindset IMO. Dunno maybe when I read him more closely I can explain better. Just feels on him right now and while it's not necessarily mafia feels, I get the non-Euclidian geometry feeling from his posts. Lovecraft styles. No that's not a crumb. Are you kidding me Wave? He was this blatantly useless in Ver's game. Seriously?
Ongoing games, bro. And there's a difference. When game ends remind me and I can give details.
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