I've /obs a few games you were in as well
Why?
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OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
May 21 2014 17:52 GMT
#1341
I've /obs a few games you were in as well Why? | ||
ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5955 Posts
May 21 2014 17:52 GMT
#1342
VOTE COUNT: mtamburini (4): Valenius (1): Meapak_Ziphh, geript (0): Koshi (0): Steveling (2): Holyflare, Cavalinho Alakaslam (1): Hapahauli (0): Yell0w (2): Xatalos (0): jampidampi (0): 27ninjabunnies (1): Cephiro sqrtofneg1 (0): bkqyrldp (0): OdinOfPergo (2): Blazinghand, Holyflare (3): WaveofShadow, WaveofShadow (1): kitaman27 Blazinghand (3): thrawn2112 (1): 27ninjabunnies marvellosity (0): layabout (2): jampidampi, Koshi Not voting (9): thrawn2112, mtamburini, bkqyrldp, layabout, MysterMeat1, Onegu, ritoky, Valenius, austinmcc Currently mtamburini is set to be lynched. Deadline is in . Remember: Voting is mandatory and has to be done in the Voting Thread. | ||
sqrtofneg1
Canada1158 Posts
May 21 2014 17:53 GMT
#1343
On May 22 2014 02:46 Xatalos wrote: I'm happy that you feel this way, but this isn't very specific. How exactly am I obvtown? These are great indicators: On May 21 2014 06:44 Xatalos wrote: Show nested quote + On May 21 2014 06:37 Tehpoofter wrote: On May 21 2014 06:33 Xatalos wrote: On May 21 2014 06:31 marvellosity wrote: On May 21 2014 06:30 Xatalos wrote: On May 21 2014 06:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On May 21 2014 06:23 Xatalos wrote: On May 21 2014 06:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On May 21 2014 06:15 WaveofShadow wrote: On May 21 2014 06:12 Steveling wrote: [quote] Sold. ##vote: holyflare Lol now I'm honestly debating whether or not to seriously push this. If he's scum nobody's gonna lynch the guy so as much as I'd feel bad not letting him play, mebbe somebody shoot him or something just to remove all doubt? I understand where the bolded logic comes from, in a normal game he wouldn't be lynched right away because scum wouldn't hop on the wagon. However in this game the same rules don't apply since there are more factions. I think it's very possible to see zero opposition wagons happen on scum. That actually adds a pretty interesting element to the game. Connection speculation is less useful - or more precisely said more complicated. I agree that's it's gonna be more complicated which is why I'd rather not use it as a heuristic for a D1 lynch, after we see a few flips we can start speculating again but right now I think it's more distracting than useful and we should focus on simple behavior based scum hunting. Yeah, it's going to be very difficult to decide today's lynch based on voting patterns etc. Since when are Day 1 lynches ever decided on voting patterns? What is this nonsense? For example, in a normal game it would be suspicious if everyone's votes just piled on one wagon. It's unlikely that he would be scum. With multiple factions things like that aren't as clear. Just cause multiple factions doesn't mean scum still won't hop on a wagon. Anyone pushing this logic is silly. They may be less likely but still likely to do so their win con is still to lynch non-scum so they will gladly lynch any faction... Pushing this further is scummy. Of course there will be scum on almost any wagon. It's just that connection speculation (bussing, speed of wagons forming, etc.) are a bit less reliable than they usually are. It should be more useful to focus on individual scumminess for now. On May 21 2014 19:59 Xatalos wrote: Show nested quote + On May 21 2014 11:34 geript wrote: On May 21 2014 11:09 Tehpoofter wrote: On May 21 2014 10:57 geript wrote: @Snooglewoogle. I need the blessings of ABBA to shoot Marv. Please make the appropriate sacrifices. Do you actually think Marv is scum or you just doing it cause he disagrees with you on slam? If you think scum is Slam and you shoot marv because you think hes cockblocking the lynch on slam that would be the most asinine play ever. Shoot who you think is lock scum lets find someone else scummy. What do you think of BKQ/Velanius/layabout? Marv I don't think would cockblock on a null read like this if he were town. More likely he'd ignore me and let me develop it. Not a 100% on that but his push on Xat early was for pretty awful reasoning. Like if Marv were town and has that "it's enough for now" line, he'd be far more willing to entertain a good outside lynch. Plus, he has done nothing to make me think he's either town or scum, which means he cares about how he comes across which is far more likely to be mafia Marv. I think geript is very likely town and this post is a good example. It's weird that marv would vote me for little to no reason (claiming it's "good enough" lol) and then defend Slam like this. marv: how is this post by geript terrible? (To be clear: marv probably isn't a good D1 lynch, since as scum he's forced to maintain some level of activity and leave behind clues about his scummates - and if he's town he's obviously too valuable to lose to a lynch - but I'd say I'm not getting any townie feeling from marv yet and so I'm slightly leaning scum) On May 21 2014 22:11 Xatalos wrote: I kind of like Cephiro's point on ninjabunnies - about how ninjabunnies doesn't apparently consider the possibility of Cephiro being scum when Cephiro pushes him: "If you don't consider me as mafia, you shouldn't be voting me. The only reason outside of you considering me as mafia for why you would vote for me is this: you want to get a read on me via my reactions to your voting on me to see if I react poorly or more town favored. This is only used if you don't have a read on me from what I've previously posted." It's a bit of a weird thing. Is it even a scumslip? Hard to say. Probably not. Still something that bothers me a bit. Definitely town. He's legitimately trying to figure out this game. | ||
Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
May 21 2014 17:53 GMT
#1344
On May 22 2014 02:51 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2014 02:27 Steveling wrote: HF can you provide reads pls. I'm interested on BH and burini. is this some kind of joke? I hope by that you mean that you have already provided reads about them that I'm forgetting, if not you are game ruining. Let me check your filter. | ||
sqrtofneg1
Canada1158 Posts
May 21 2014 17:54 GMT
#1345
On May 22 2014 02:48 kitaman27 wrote: The Doctor, Harry Potter, and The Batman are not impressed. Is this an inside joke? I don't get this. | ||
thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
May 21 2014 17:54 GMT
#1346
On May 22 2014 02:52 OdinOfPergo wrote: We played one of my newbies together iirc I've /obs a few games you were in as well Why? I don't remember any of that. I've only recently started lurking D1, which games have you obsed? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
May 21 2014 17:54 GMT
#1347
On May 22 2014 02:54 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2014 02:48 kitaman27 wrote: The Doctor, Harry Potter, and The Batman are not impressed. Is this an inside joke? I don't get this. These are main, "good" characters in mafia games on TL that have actually been mafia. | ||
sqrtofneg1
Canada1158 Posts
May 21 2014 17:56 GMT
#1348
On May 22 2014 02:54 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2014 02:54 sqrtofneg1 wrote: On May 22 2014 02:48 kitaman27 wrote: The Doctor, Harry Potter, and The Batman are not impressed. Is this an inside joke? I don't get this. These are main, "good" characters in mafia games on TL that have actually been mafia. Oh, got it. | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
May 21 2014 17:56 GMT
#1349
On May 22 2014 01:41 Holyflare wrote: removed wave cz marv reminded me of survivor where he was super happy to play scum and try and look towny Eh, I think that ez meta read is more circumstantial than anything with a lot of external factors involved but I certainly won't fight it. I dunno I'm kinda with thrawn on this especially after the post restriction game. Not being able to post what/when I wanted was balls but having to sift through 31 other peoples shit may be worse and my care factor is mega low atm. I'm sure ill be inspired in short bursts. | ||
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
May 21 2014 17:56 GMT
#1350
I'll be honest I'm terrible with remembering names as I never go back to them for meta. | ||
geript
10024 Posts
May 21 2014 17:57 GMT
#1351
On May 22 2014 02:51 kitaman27 wrote: To make things clear, I don't think "Isaac" would be a good day one lynch in a 30+ player game. I say deal with it later. In b4 "well who do you want to lynch Kita?". -Dunno. Will read thread when I'm home from work. Funny I think a BH is a great lynch. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
May 21 2014 17:57 GMT
#1352
On May 22 2014 02:57 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2014 02:51 kitaman27 wrote: To make things clear, I don't think "Isaac" would be a good day one lynch in a 30+ player game. I say deal with it later. In b4 "well who do you want to lynch Kita?". -Dunno. Will read thread when I'm home from work. Funny I think a BH is a great lynch. yeah but only because you're geript and you have a weird stalker-ey obsession with me | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
May 21 2014 17:59 GMT
#1353
Most disappointing | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
May 21 2014 17:59 GMT
#1354
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
May 21 2014 18:00 GMT
#1355
On May 22 2014 02:51 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2014 02:27 Steveling wrote: HF can you provide reads pls. I'm interested on BH and burini. is this some kind of joke? Alright just read your list. Can you provide some more analysis on BH? Especially after this role claim. | ||
kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
May 21 2014 18:00 GMT
#1356
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
May 21 2014 18:01 GMT
#1357
On May 22 2014 02:57 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2014 02:51 kitaman27 wrote: To make things clear, I don't think "Isaac" would be a good day one lynch in a 30+ player game. I say deal with it later. In b4 "well who do you want to lynch Kita?". -Dunno. Will read thread when I'm home from work. Funny I think a BH is a great lynch. BH is probably the only player that comes to mind that goes out of his way to promote thread disruption as mafia, which I think he has done this game. I haven't really read any of the nonsense he is pushing though so I'm not sure if he has moved off the RNG stuff yet. Prior to the claim, I would have considered him. Day 1 lynches on blue roleclaims in large games is generally a no-no, unless they come right before the flip. | ||
Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
May 21 2014 18:01 GMT
#1358
Had a similar situation in my last game. | ||
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
May 21 2014 18:02 GMT
#1359
On May 22 2014 03:01 kitaman27 wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2014 02:57 geript wrote: On May 22 2014 02:51 kitaman27 wrote: To make things clear, I don't think "Isaac" would be a good day one lynch in a 30+ player game. I say deal with it later. In b4 "well who do you want to lynch Kita?". -Dunno. Will read thread when I'm home from work. Funny I think a BH is a great lynch. BH is probably the only player that comes to mind that goes out of his way to promote thread disruption as mafia, which I think he has done this game. I haven't really read any of the nonsense he is pushing though so I'm not sure if he has moved off the RNG stuff yet. Prior to the claim, I would have considered him. Day 1 lynches on blue roleclaims in large games is generally a no-no, unless they come right before the flip. Let me answer this for you. I am still BH sole read this game. A read he could not of possible of come to at the time he came to it.. | ||
Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
May 21 2014 18:04 GMT
#1360
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