I will try and post more actively in the night.
Yes, it is super weird that tamburini did not get roleblocked tonight, and meat did (if meat'sclaim is actually legitimate.)
I think the lynches for today are between Epishade, dfs, dravenor, and ahs
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
May 06 2014 23:13 GMT
#1001
I will try and post more actively in the night. Yes, it is super weird that tamburini did not get roleblocked tonight, and meat did (if meat'sclaim is actually legitimate.) I think the lynches for today are between Epishade, dfs, dravenor, and ahs | ||
mtamburini
Canada506 Posts
May 06 2014 23:40 GMT
#1002
With 9 people now I have to find 4 other towny people and theres a good chance we will win this game re evaluating every day someone dies taking into consideration how they voted who they voted on etc etc. | ||
MysteryMeat1
United States3288 Posts
May 07 2014 00:19 GMT
#1003
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
May 07 2014 04:07 GMT
#1004
- bunnies still town I think, I want to see her posting more to figure things out; there's this vague and slight nagging feeling that she got cleared too quick and is coasting but I'm sure given the time of year that it's just finals like she's saying - I feel much better about Epishade over the past 24-48 hrs, ever since sqrt flipped he's been digging in trying to solve this thing - Meat being roleblocked over tambo doesn't make any sense to me and I think there's an appreciable chance he's mafia and the mafia didn't roleblock anyone - ahs, dfs, dravernor seem to be everyone's picks, I think I want ahs or dravernor out of that group since dfs is trying but tbh any of those three I'm fine with; only thing worrying me is that everyone is circling around them, either they're the scumteam or we've been set up - tambo still obv vig - Yell0w I'm back to being suspicious of, ever since the spotlight moved off him he hasn't really been trying to figure things out Essentially, bunnies, tambo and Epishade are in my do-not-lynch pile, everyone else is fair game right now. If we're at LYLO I like those odds since there's only one townie in that group, if we're at LYLO-1 then I'll still take 3/5 with one ML to give. tambo, if we catch a mafia today I think I want you to take a shot in that group of five (ahs, dfs, dravernor, meat, yell0w) | ||
27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
May 07 2014 04:22 GMT
#1005
Why?! Someone tell me this- because I have this scene in my head where mafia conversed, said not to kill/roleblock tamburini, and have one of their mafia partners claim to be roleblocked instead to seem townie.... That's my scenerio. And If I'm correct, I want to lynch Meat soooo hard today... And I'm trying not to jump in this submarine. So, I like Eden, I feel as if he is looking into the game well, giving his reads, and trying to scum hunt. Tamburini, if we lynch mafia today you must shoot. Meat, I'd like to hear more from you. Why do you think you got roleblocked? Because I was for sure not reading you as town. Also, if we have a parity cop, you come out today with this information 1.) Two people alive with same alignment 2.) Two people alive with different alignment 3.) 1 dead and 1 alive with same alignment (only if it is on someone we are reading super scummy) 4.) 1 dead and 1 alive with different alignment. I believe the order of importance for this information is 4, 2, 1, 3. I need more conversation from dfs and davenor today. Ahs was coming out a little bit more with reads, but I am still iffy. Yellow, I'm pretty sure is town this game. Epishade, I'd still feel he might be a very good player leading mafia, but is town for now, but not out of the water yet. Come on people, converse. We only have one day! | ||
Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
May 07 2014 04:59 GMT
#1006
Meat, convince me without appealing to an unfalsifiable roleblock claim that you're town. ##VOTE MysteryMeat1 | ||
mtamburini
Canada506 Posts
May 07 2014 05:33 GMT
#1007
On May 07 2014 13:59 Eden1892 wrote: Let's get some votes down. Meat, convince me without appealing to an unfalsifiable roleblock claim that you're town. ##VOTE MysteryMeat1 Donkey please. Process this, bunnies gets jailed and I get mafia roleblocked. Then Bunnies probably gets jailed again and someone else other then myself gets roleblocked (99% sure mafia roleblocked) Why would mafia roleblock mafia. Get your head in the game kid or die. | ||
mtamburini
Canada506 Posts
May 07 2014 05:36 GMT
#1008
On May 07 2014 13:22 27ninjabunnies wrote: It's just SO weird to me that Meat got blcked over tamburini. Why?! Someone tell me this- because I have this scene in my head where mafia conversed, said not to kill/roleblock tamburini, and have one of their mafia partners claim to be roleblocked instead to seem townie.... That's my scenerio. And If I'm correct, I want to lynch Meat soooo hard today... And I'm trying not to jump in this submarine. So, I like Eden, I feel as if he is looking into the game well, giving his reads, and trying to scum hunt. Tamburini, if we lynch mafia today you must shoot. Meat, I'd like to hear more from you. Why do you think you got roleblocked? Because I was for sure not reading you as town. Also, if we have a parity cop, you come out today with this information 1.) Two people alive with same alignment 2.) Two people alive with different alignment 3.) 1 dead and 1 alive with same alignment (only if it is on someone we are reading super scummy) 4.) 1 dead and 1 alive with different alignment. I believe the order of importance for this information is 4, 2, 1, 3. I need more conversation from dfs and davenor today. Ahs was coming out a little bit more with reads, but I am still iffy. Yellow, I'm pretty sure is town this game. Epishade, I'd still feel he might be a very good player leading mafia, but is town for now, but not out of the water yet. Come on people, converse. We only have one day! Because they thought I was gonna shoot Yell0w in what can be LYLO thats why i dont get RB'd. Better people to RB then vigi. N1 they RB me cuz I claimed. Try and kill a role and missed. N2 they RB someone new and kill someone different for a higher percentage of hitting a ROLE whether it be blocked or dead. Meat is town get off him. | ||
MysteryMeat1
United States3288 Posts
May 07 2014 05:39 GMT
#1009
So lets go back to my earlier statement that if i was mafia i wouldn't be talking. We've managed to mislynch twice now and we are in LYLO. Up until now i've been under the radar, probably lynches for today wouldn't include me because there are better lynch targets. I can see why people are hesitant to lynch epishade but i guarentee you that he is mafia. At the very least i'm willing to change my vote to DFS when you look through his filter he hasn't really participated at all, and in his last post he says that we should have lynched mtam day 1 who is guarenteed to be vigi at this point. Why would you ever want to lynch a confirmed town?!?! As for being town, i don't believe town's job is to post a ton. I wasn't very active day 1 but i've been reading the thread the whole entire time. I want to scum hunt and not witch hunt. All those people who where trying to lynch yell0w day1 cause of his claim. I see where they are coming from, but imo scum hunting is different than witch hunting. As for my reads i could say who i think the other roles are but that doesn't help town. A town's job isn't to say who they think the power roles are. I think a towns job is to post when it matters, and right now it matters. It matters sooo hard that we post and converse, but where is dfs and dravernor? I don't see them posting. | ||
MysteryMeat1
United States3288 Posts
May 07 2014 05:40 GMT
#1010
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
May 07 2014 05:49 GMT
#1011
On May 07 2014 14:33 mtamburini wrote: Donkey please. Process this, bunnies gets jailed and I get mafia roleblocked. Then Bunnies probably gets jailed again and someone else other then myself gets roleblocked (99% sure mafia roleblocked) Why would mafia roleblock mafia. Get your head in the game kid or die. Process this -- my theory is that the mafia didn't roleblock so one of their own could claim rb'd and get pseudo-confirmed at LYLO. On May 07 2014 14:39 MysteryMeat1 wrote: Eden if i was mafia I would have no reason to start talking this much. I've also justified my logic on the previous page as to why i believe i was roll blocked, but for some reason that doesn't count. So lets go back to my earlier statement that if i was mafia i wouldn't be talking. We've managed to mislynch twice now and we are in LYLO. Up until now i've been under the radar, probably lynches for today wouldn't include me because there are better lynch targets. I can see why people are hesitant to lynch epishade but i guarentee you that he is mafia. At the very least i'm willing to change my vote to DFS when you look through his filter he hasn't really participated at all, and in his last post he says that we should have lynched mtam day 1 who is guarenteed to be vigi at this point. Why would you ever want to lynch a confirmed town?!?! As for being town, i don't believe town's job is to post a ton. I wasn't very active day 1 but i've been reading the thread the whole entire time. I want to scum hunt and not witch hunt. All those people who where trying to lynch yell0w day1 cause of his claim. I see where they are coming from, but imo scum hunting is different than witch hunting. As for my reads i could say who i think the other roles are but that doesn't help town. A town's job isn't to say who they think the power roles are. I think a towns job is to post when it matters, and right now it matters. It matters sooo hard that we post and converse, but where is dfs and dravernor? I don't see them posting. The roleblock claim itself is unfalsifiable, which is why I'm not considering it in weighing your guilt or innocence. Yes you would absolutely have an incentive to talk at LYLO so that you could look more townie and move the vote onto a townie who isn't talking. I'm not saying you talking is proof you're town, that'd be ridiculous, but I am saying you talking is null. And yes, you would be -- are -- a prime candidate for today's lynch because you have been flying under the radar and not trying to solve the game state. Who was trying to lynch Yell0w d1 for a claim? And what claim? I don't understand where you're going with this "scum hunting vs witch hunting" argument since you haven't been doing either. And if your only reads, at LYLO, are town power roles instead of scum, that tells me you've only been looking for town power roles instead of scum, which tells me you're in the mafia, because if you were in the town you wouldn't even care about looking for town PRs, you'd be finding scum. Mafia look for town PRs, town look for mafia. If all you've got results for is what mafia look for, that pretty clearly only says one thing about your alignment. | ||
MysteryMeat1
United States3288 Posts
May 07 2014 05:56 GMT
#1012
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MysteryMeat1
United States3288 Posts
May 07 2014 05:57 GMT
#1013
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
May 07 2014 05:59 GMT
#1014
Clarify for me, when you say "town roles" are you talking about finding townies or town PRs specifically? I read it as the latter, but if it's the former that changes things | ||
MysteryMeat1
United States3288 Posts
May 07 2014 06:26 GMT
#1015
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dfs
Russian Federation4050 Posts
May 07 2014 07:51 GMT
#1016
On May 07 2014 05:44 MysteryMeat1 wrote: Show nested quote + On May 07 2014 04:14 dfs wrote: On May 07 2014 03:53 MysteryMeat1 wrote: On May 07 2014 03:45 dfs wrote: On May 07 2014 03:33 MysteryMeat1 wrote: On May 07 2014 02:21 dfs wrote: Well, this sucks. Meat - roleblocked, which suggests he's town (except if mafia held off their roleblock to call it themselves and appear as town) mtamburini - wasn't roleblocked, which is interesting, because when it was clear that he's going to shoot Yell0w he was blocked, but when he expressed his thoughts on being paranoic and wanting to shoot Bunny he wasn't blocked (instead it looks like the block was used blindly in the hopes to hit another power role, because no one else called their roles). Simple conclusion from that alone: Yell0w - mafia. Bunny - town. Meat - can be either. Now I regret not voting mtamburini first day because he's been useless just like I anticipated. His day 1 vig flip would have given us Yell0w flip earlier as now I am sure he is mafia. Also I find it a bit ironic that I called Meat mafia for not talking and now I get accused of the same thing from Meat. I get it and i'm sorry, but I can't help it. lol, dfs is sooooo mafia. yell0w has to be town. It was apparent to everyone that tam would shoot yellow. This is why he wasn't roleblocked. If tam had shot yellow the game would have been over. Instead mafia used their roleblock on me just in case i was a role and could do something. It was apparent he was going to shoot Yellow day1, yet they blocked him. day2 he talked about bunny as possible target, and they didn't block him, which is my point here. They can possibly be both town, just like you can possibly be bullshiting everyone with your rolecall, but i'm going with what fits better in my mind right now. And why would mafia target you? You don't stand out (expect for the beginning of the game), at least Bunny is a better target. I don't think a random roleblock makes sense. Think about it this way. Bunny and Yellow are both town. He was roleblocked n1 to see if mafia could push a mislynch on either yellow tam. N2 Tam is either gonna shoot bunny or yellow, why block him? He isn't pointing his gun at any mafia. We where all suprised that tam didn't bother shooting anyone. So who do you roleblock next? There is no point in roleblocking bunnies, as she was probably put in jail, so there is no point in wasteing a double roleblock on her. Obviously there is no point in roleblocking ritoky who is going to die in the night cause he can't save himself. If we have 4 mafia then out of the 2 people remaining your only roleblock choice is either me or eden. I've been posting since the begininning of the game as someone who has a role. I.E. posting little but still letting everyone know i've been keeping up with the thread. Anyway, you chose me over eden, as in because you only had one of us to choose from as their is no point in roleblocking your own mafia, if you think you were going to win during the night. So just roleblock someone who could potentially do something. Yes, I though of it. That Yell0w mislynch attempt option was too obvious for everyone on day2 so most people left him alone (me included, i was betting on vigi, which, again, was a mistake) and some even though he was clear town. You were acting like mafia if anything. Power role whould act as much less as mafia as possible, not super quiet and suspicious. I forgot the fact that Bunny was jailed, so that makes sense. Then again, a random roleblock? Not just random, but on a person who was acting suspicious. A roleblock usualy indicates that that person is town. That's a stupid thing to do if you want an easy misslynch later. So your fake call is a legitimate option in my mind. What about it was random, if your mafia, you were pretty much guarenteed the win if mtam had shot. If there where 9 people, we have 4 mafia that you won't role block so we are down to 5. You are going to kill someone and your not gonna roleblock your kill, so we have 4 people. Bunnies is going to get rollblocked so we are down to 3 people. Your not gonna roleblock yelloW since he is going to die. we are down to 2 people. AKA me or EDEN, which is hardly random. I also find it strange that you say gambling on tam was a mistake when killing yell0w would have cost us the game. On May 07 2014 05:50 mtamburini wrote: Show nested quote + On May 07 2014 02:21 dfs wrote: Well, this sucks. Meat - roleblocked, which suggests he's town (except if mafia held off their roleblock to call it themselves and appear as town) mtamburini - wasn't roleblocked, which is interesting, because when it was clear that he's going to shoot Yell0w he was blocked, but when he expressed his thoughts on being paranoic and wanting to shoot Bunny he wasn't blocked (instead it looks like the block was used blindly in the hopes to hit another power role, because no one else called their roles). Simple conclusion from that alone: Yell0w - mafia. Bunny - town. Meat - can be either. Now I regret not voting mtamburini first day because he's been useless just like I anticipated. His day 1 vig flip would have given us Yell0w flip earlier as now I am sure he is mafia. Also I find it a bit ironic that I called Meat mafia for not talking and now I get accused of the same thing from Meat. I get it and i'm sorry, but I can't help it. You regret not voting on town? I was refering to day one, when if we'd have lynched tamb (who was being suspected as an sk as well) then we'd have lynched yellow on day 2 (which i believe is mafia) so it would have been a better outcome than what we have now. But it doesn't matter anymore, obviously. Another thing is, how do you know how many mafia there are? What if there is only 3 mafia, no need to just accept a guess on their number as a given. There was no sk (unless he's still just hiding lol), so there might not be 4 mafia. It's another possibility. Which makes more sense, because I still don't believe a random roleblock is a good idea when you have such an nice chance to "confirm" yourself as town by fakecalling it. It's too good of a possibility to ignore. | ||
ahswtini
Northern Ireland22203 Posts
May 07 2014 09:12 GMT
#1017
On May 07 2014 16:51 dfs wrote: Show nested quote + On May 07 2014 05:44 MysteryMeat1 wrote: On May 07 2014 04:14 dfs wrote: On May 07 2014 03:53 MysteryMeat1 wrote: On May 07 2014 03:45 dfs wrote: On May 07 2014 03:33 MysteryMeat1 wrote: On May 07 2014 02:21 dfs wrote: Well, this sucks. Meat - roleblocked, which suggests he's town (except if mafia held off their roleblock to call it themselves and appear as town) mtamburini - wasn't roleblocked, which is interesting, because when it was clear that he's going to shoot Yell0w he was blocked, but when he expressed his thoughts on being paranoic and wanting to shoot Bunny he wasn't blocked (instead it looks like the block was used blindly in the hopes to hit another power role, because no one else called their roles). Simple conclusion from that alone: Yell0w - mafia. Bunny - town. Meat - can be either. Now I regret not voting mtamburini first day because he's been useless just like I anticipated. His day 1 vig flip would have given us Yell0w flip earlier as now I am sure he is mafia. Also I find it a bit ironic that I called Meat mafia for not talking and now I get accused of the same thing from Meat. I get it and i'm sorry, but I can't help it. lol, dfs is sooooo mafia. yell0w has to be town. It was apparent to everyone that tam would shoot yellow. This is why he wasn't roleblocked. If tam had shot yellow the game would have been over. Instead mafia used their roleblock on me just in case i was a role and could do something. It was apparent he was going to shoot Yellow day1, yet they blocked him. day2 he talked about bunny as possible target, and they didn't block him, which is my point here. They can possibly be both town, just like you can possibly be bullshiting everyone with your rolecall, but i'm going with what fits better in my mind right now. And why would mafia target you? You don't stand out (expect for the beginning of the game), at least Bunny is a better target. I don't think a random roleblock makes sense. Think about it this way. Bunny and Yellow are both town. He was roleblocked n1 to see if mafia could push a mislynch on either yellow tam. N2 Tam is either gonna shoot bunny or yellow, why block him? He isn't pointing his gun at any mafia. We where all suprised that tam didn't bother shooting anyone. So who do you roleblock next? There is no point in roleblocking bunnies, as she was probably put in jail, so there is no point in wasteing a double roleblock on her. Obviously there is no point in roleblocking ritoky who is going to die in the night cause he can't save himself. If we have 4 mafia then out of the 2 people remaining your only roleblock choice is either me or eden. I've been posting since the begininning of the game as someone who has a role. I.E. posting little but still letting everyone know i've been keeping up with the thread. Anyway, you chose me over eden, as in because you only had one of us to choose from as their is no point in roleblocking your own mafia, if you think you were going to win during the night. So just roleblock someone who could potentially do something. Yes, I though of it. That Yell0w mislynch attempt option was too obvious for everyone on day2 so most people left him alone (me included, i was betting on vigi, which, again, was a mistake) and some even though he was clear town. You were acting like mafia if anything. Power role whould act as much less as mafia as possible, not super quiet and suspicious. I forgot the fact that Bunny was jailed, so that makes sense. Then again, a random roleblock? Not just random, but on a person who was acting suspicious. A roleblock usualy indicates that that person is town. That's a stupid thing to do if you want an easy misslynch later. So your fake call is a legitimate option in my mind. What about it was random, if your mafia, you were pretty much guarenteed the win if mtam had shot. If there where 9 people, we have 4 mafia that you won't role block so we are down to 5. You are going to kill someone and your not gonna roleblock your kill, so we have 4 people. Bunnies is going to get rollblocked so we are down to 3 people. Your not gonna roleblock yelloW since he is going to die. we are down to 2 people. AKA me or EDEN, which is hardly random. I also find it strange that you say gambling on tam was a mistake when killing yell0w would have cost us the game. Show nested quote + On May 07 2014 05:50 mtamburini wrote: On May 07 2014 02:21 dfs wrote: Well, this sucks. Meat - roleblocked, which suggests he's town (except if mafia held off their roleblock to call it themselves and appear as town) mtamburini - wasn't roleblocked, which is interesting, because when it was clear that he's going to shoot Yell0w he was blocked, but when he expressed his thoughts on being paranoic and wanting to shoot Bunny he wasn't blocked (instead it looks like the block was used blindly in the hopes to hit another power role, because no one else called their roles). Simple conclusion from that alone: Yell0w - mafia. Bunny - town. Meat - can be either. Now I regret not voting mtamburini first day because he's been useless just like I anticipated. His day 1 vig flip would have given us Yell0w flip earlier as now I am sure he is mafia. Also I find it a bit ironic that I called Meat mafia for not talking and now I get accused of the same thing from Meat. I get it and i'm sorry, but I can't help it. You regret not voting on town? I was refering to day one, when if we'd have lynched tamb (who was being suspected as an sk as well) then we'd have lynched yellow on day 2 (which i believe is mafia) so it would have been a better outcome than what we have now. But it doesn't matter anymore, obviously. Another thing is, how do you know how many mafia there are? What if there is only 3 mafia, no need to just accept a guess on their number as a given. There was no sk (unless he's still just hiding lol), so there might not be 4 mafia. It's another possibility. Which makes more sense, because I still don't believe a random roleblock is a good idea when you have such an nice chance to "confirm" yourself as town by fakecalling it. It's too good of a possibility to ignore. You still think yellow is Mafia? Ok, it's possible that the scum were willing to sacrifice yellow by not roleblocking mtamburini so that mysterymeat could safely fakeclaim getting roleblocked. I'm discarding that line of reasoning though. Every event so far has been designed to put yellow under suspicion and get him shot. First they block mtamburini from shooting him. Then the next day they let him, knowing he is town. This works fine, they don't need to block anyone on the second night because it opens up the way for scum meat to claim he was blocked. If there was no block, our cop must have results by now. We appear to be at MYLO, we need any alignment information right now. I'm just hoping bunnies isn't our cop. On May 07 2014 04:03 MysteryMeat1 wrote: TROLOLOLOL: My coach got temp banned for a week. This is disgusting, trying to use coach meta to defend yourself? If we're really going to use coach meta, then I don't believe prplhz is your coach if you are town. I think it's iamrobik. I'll just leave it at that because I using coach meta is probably against the rules. On May 07 2014 03:53 MysteryMeat1 wrote: I've been posting since the begininning of the game as someone who has a role. I.E. posting little but still letting everyone know i've been keeping up with the thread. Why? What were you hoping to gain out of this - trying to absorb hits or roleblocks? Mighty noble of you. Idk if you're the mason and have been playing half of this game out of the thread, but I don't buy it. I've suspected you since day one. The posting little but letting everyone know you're keeping up with the thread is completely mafia behaviour. If you were blue, you wouldn't be be seeking to maintain the pretense of keeping up with the thread. You would be avoiding sticking your neck out, but still trying to contribute. Right now, I think mysterymeat1 and dfs are defo scum. | ||
LoneMeow
Finland1396 Posts
May 07 2014 09:18 GMT
#1018
MysteryMeat1 (1): Eden1892 Epishade (1): MysteryMeat1 Not voting (7): mtamburini, Epishade, Yell0w, dfs, 27ninjabunnies, dravernor, ahswtini Currently, Epishade is set to be lynched. Deadline is Wednesday, May 07 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ). Voting is mandatory! + Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] + | ||
27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
May 07 2014 11:22 GMT
#1019
Speak dude. | ||
LoneMeow
Finland1396 Posts
May 07 2014 13:16 GMT
#1020
MysteryMeat1 (2): Eden1892, ahswtini dravernor (1): 27ninjabunnies Epishade (1): MysteryMeat1 Not voting (5): mtamburini, Epishade, Yell0w, dfs, dravernor Currently, MysteryMeat1 is set to be lynched. Deadline is Wednesday, May 07 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ). Voting is mandatory! + Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] + | ||
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