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Vote Count
sqrtofneg1 (2) - Valenius, Lord Tolkien, Lord Tolkien, Valenius OnceKing (0) - sqrtofneg1, Lord Tolkien IAmRobik (0) - Cavalinho, OnceKing, Eden1892 Cavalinho (3) - Eden1892, RolandJarvis, Pixalated, OnceKing, sqrtofneg1 Eden1892 (0) - Cavalinho Lord Tolkien (2) - Eden1892, OnceKing, Cavalinho Valenius (1) - OnceKing
Not Voting (1) - IAmRobik
Currently Cavalinho is set to be lynched!
Day ends at Thursday, Mar 27 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), .
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On March 28 2014 00:58 Pixalated wrote: Cav opinions on my read on LT?
I'm really liking the parts about attracting attention; this kind of thinking doesn't really make sense from a mafia perspective. Why would you bother making a plan like that that can backfire so horrifically? Townies as a rule of thumb don't care about attracting attention, so it holds water.
It's just...Martyring yourself isn't good. I know he does it and I know he's a slow starter when it comes to day 1 play. If all we have to go on is him making clumsy attempts to catch scum and then trying to vote himself when it doesn't work, then the attracting attention theory doesn't really hold up because he's just going to play the "woe is me" card until we stop focusing him. That, on the other hand, can be considered mafia play. If he's just going to make us feel bad for pressuring him at all, then why would we bother keeping him around? At that point, he's either mafia or useless, and either of those options sound better than me getting lynched.
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@Mod
LT can't vote twice ya know.
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His reaction to that just seemed like pissed off town to me. Its really similar to you I think. Eden was tunneling both of you really hard, and his reaction is kind of similar to yours, just expressed differently. He tried to respond at first (and did so for very long), yet Eden refused to accept many of his points, and I think at this point he just got annoyed and posted that. I really don't think he was intending to vote himself. You on the other hand were also definitely annoyed (I inferred that from the tone of your posts, correct me if im wrong) at him tunneling you, but you just expressed it as Eden being possibly scum.
Obviously I understand that you would prefer him to yourself, but who else do you think is scum?
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How can LT vote for himself? I thought that was against the rules.
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It's fixed, just an error on my part.
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I think out of the four people that I'm concerned about right now, (You, Val, Roland, LT) Tolkein would be the one I would be concerned with voting off the most. I'm okay with either him or Roland, because Roland jumped on what could be considered a "safe" wagon and isn't letting up despite all evidence to the contrary.
Though for the record, you strike me as town for now. So I guess disregard the fact that I'm concerned with you.
(Also, yes, Eden is a pain in the ass when he tunnels. I can absolutely see that. Also, unvote me pls kthx.)
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Hey Robik, tell me why you haven't voted yet and one significant point of discussion regarding your top two suspects (Cavalinho, Lord Tolkien) that you feel you contributed to the day.
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Lol ignore the first part then
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I think sqrtofneg1 is mafia.
His conversation with himself at the start of the game showed him to be a high volume, in the moment player. One who would create reactions and interact a lot. That style of town play is more writing than reading and doesn't take a lot of time.
But the promise hasn't been met. His posting since has been sporadic. He has one long post and otherwise doesn't know what to say.
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On March 28 2014 01:34 sqrtofneg1 wrote: How can LT vote for himself? I thought that was against the rules.
He can't. He's trying to to make himself seem more town, and I know he does it because he did the same thing last game.
Also, could you unvote me already? We've already determined that your vote was derp and I think you need to reread the thread to find a real scumread.
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Actually I guess ignore all of that.
Going to class soon and then I'm rereading the whole thread. I'm starting to get pissed off about this game because we have three wagons now (Tolkien, Cavalinho, sqrt) and two others (Valenius and Pixalated) that people are trying to start, way late in the phase. Seems like there's a lot of indecisiveness and general bullshit flying around here. It's really getting me mad how people are bitching about me "tunneling" when I'm obviously not, and then don't have a clear direction themselves for who needs to die instead.
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On March 28 2014 01:37 Cavalinho wrote: I'm okay with either him or Roland, because Roland jumped on what could be considered a "safe" wagon and isn't letting up despite all evidence to the contrary.
If you think I'm mafia, and you want people to vote for me, nothing is more convincing than putting your own vote on me.
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@Robik's case.
I didn't have any major reads at that point because I am quite uncertain of things. LT's trap crap initially had me going wtf, why would town do this, but after some thinking I came to that conclusion that I recently posted (wasnt as strong at that point in time since he hadn't finished explaining himself). I didn't post it before I went to sleep because I wanted to see him defend himself more, and other people's opinions on him.
Cav's lynch looked good to me because I don't understand why he felt that OK's initial post was weird, found his responses to pressure as off, and a minor point which I dont think I mentioned, he seemed to want to dodge direct pressure (asking you why you were targeting him specifically with that question). His recent responses actually give me the impression that he is pissed off town, and I thus dont really think he is scum anymore. Doesn't mean he is clear as this is simply something that I feel off his posts and I really can't pinpoint what exactly it is. The only thing I dont like is his initial read on sqrt who I dont really like atm.
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On March 28 2014 01:38 Cavalinho wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2014 01:34 sqrtofneg1 wrote: How can LT vote for himself? I thought that was against the rules. He can't. He's trying to to make himself seem more town, and I know he does it because he did the same thing last game. Also, could you unvote me already? We've already determined that your vote was derp and I think you need to reread the thread to find a real scumread. Quick question, why are you asking only me to unvote you? Why not ask Pix and RJ too?
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Also, I disagree with Robik's case against Pix.
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I think Lord Tolkien is town.
I've read the trap section again and I understand it now. I also finished reading the previous game. There he had a post during night 3 that seemed like he was trying to trap the wolves with WIFOM and things he didn't believe. It worked, they killed him.
The point of that is it shows he wants to make plays like traps while town, so it's not automatically incriminating.
Then I'm buying his defense. Call it tone, I think he is town.
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On March 28 2014 01:37 Eden1892 wrote: Hey Robik, tell me why you haven't voted yet and one significant point of discussion regarding your top two suspects (Cavalinho, Lord Tolkien) that you feel you contributed to the day. I was planning on hammering the shit out of whoever I thought was more mafia at the end of the day if the wagons were close because I trust me to have the hammer than anyone else.
As for what I've brought to the table with Cava and LT...well...that doesn't really matter. I actually don't know if I've brought up any new content regarding them, I'd have to reread my posts. What I do know is that I have a pretty large town circle, and I'm happy lynching outside of it, and those two are DEFINITELY outside of it.
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On March 28 2014 01:40 Eden1892 wrote: Actually I guess ignore all of that.
Going to class soon and then I'm rereading the whole thread. I'm starting to get pissed off about this game because we have three wagons now (Tolkien, Cavalinho, sqrt) and two others (Valenius and Pixalated) that people are trying to start, way late in the phase. Seems like there's a lot of indecisiveness and general bullshit flying around here. It's really getting me mad how people are bitching about me "tunneling" when I'm obviously not, and then don't have a clear direction themselves for who needs to die instead.
Except you do that, though. Your scumread on me was you self-propagating information in an attempt to get a lynch. I think you're town, but you tend to sink your teeth into a read and then you just never let it go when people respond.
The only reason that you townread me was because a bunch of people voted me, and it had nothing to do with what I said at any point. That's a little concerning.
Despite this, Eden has a point. We need to coalesce, and now would be good. I'm not going to be around for the deadline so I'd like to know that the lynch would at least be organized before I left.
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