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Blazinghand
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On December 19 2013 05:04 Plutarch wrote: I'v posted all the reasoning behind these assumptions already.
So last night there's no evidence that kush actually saved you, and WIFOM-ey evidence that Xatalos' team shot you. This seems more to indicate that you're the SK (as grack says he checked you) than anything else.
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On December 19 2013 05:04 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2013 05:03 Plutarch wrote:On December 19 2013 05:00 Blazinghand wrote:On December 19 2013 05:00 Plutarch wrote:On December 19 2013 04:57 Blazinghand wrote: so where are theese medic crumbs? Go read holyflares filter. I didn't actually see a crumb from kush but as I know scum shot me twice and I know I am vanilla town I know he medic protected me. you got informed that scum shot you? No. Please read the game. I read through Xatalos' filter and he says something like. "Well as the medic is dead scum are going to kill plutarch tonight" So you don't know that you got shot, you have the word of a dead scum player to back up the possibility that you were shot.
I think it is pretty obvious. Xatalos said that scum were shooting plu before he was caught. Then scum misses their second shot and xatalos whinges about medics being OP and tries to coordinate my death AGAIN with the sk.
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Blazinghand
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On December 19 2013 05:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Presuming Xatalos didn't try to WIFOM us by wanting Rayn/Plutarch shot and leaving BH alive, I'd say that makes Xigxag look slightly better in terms of not being scum because BH was the only one interested in actively pushing his policy lynch. Opinions?
XigXag has a pretty good chance of flipping town. I strongly recommend against lynching him. We're past the time for a policy lynch; we missed our opportunity. If he's scum, we lose, if he's town, we have a chance to win. That's all we can do.
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Blazinghand
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On December 19 2013 05:06 Plutarch wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2013 05:04 Blazinghand wrote:On December 19 2013 05:03 Plutarch wrote:On December 19 2013 05:00 Blazinghand wrote:On December 19 2013 05:00 Plutarch wrote:On December 19 2013 04:57 Blazinghand wrote: so where are theese medic crumbs? Go read holyflares filter. I didn't actually see a crumb from kush but as I know scum shot me twice and I know I am vanilla town I know he medic protected me. you got informed that scum shot you? No. Please read the game. I read through Xatalos' filter and he says something like. "Well as the medic is dead scum are going to kill plutarch tonight" So you don't know that you got shot, you have the word of a dead scum player to back up the possibility that you were shot. I think it is pretty obvious. Xatalos said that scum were shooting plu before he was caught. Then scum misses their second shot and xatalos whinges about medics being OP and tries to coordinate my death AGAIN with the sk.
Or you're the SK.
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On December 19 2013 05:07 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2013 05:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Presuming Xatalos didn't try to WIFOM us by wanting Rayn/Plutarch shot and leaving BH alive, I'd say that makes Xigxag look slightly better in terms of not being scum because BH was the only one interested in actively pushing his policy lynch. Opinions? XigXag has a pretty good chance of flipping town. I strongly recommend against lynching him. We're past the time for a policy lynch; we missed our opportunity. If he's scum, we lose, if he's town, we have a chance to win. That's all we can do. You wouldn't even want to lynch him if everyone else looks townier than him and he stays (near-)afk?
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On December 15 2013 11:57 kushm4sta wrote: hapa plz speculate: do you think rayn or yourself is gonna get hit tonight?
On December 15 2013 23:57 kushm4sta wrote: therea re only 3 scum left right? (JarJarDrinks) Xatalos Alakaslam (xigxag)
then lsb for sk
On December 16 2013 01:26 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2013 01:10 Xatalos wrote:On December 16 2013 01:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 16 2013 01:00 kushm4sta wrote: this sk hunt is really dumb Basically this is what i think, at least if you are town. Do you think Plutarch is scum for this then? I really think he's just a misguided townie. He basically single-handedly enabled the purple lynch too. Well I'm always relatively friendly, but I mean... I think I've been much more aggro than I would have been as SK. But who knows, it's hard to say. not sure about my other reads but xatalos is definitely scum. artanis may be busing. Subtly wishy washy, leading question. Why would you even say this as town?? Why would you even suggest plutarch was scum for suggesting he knows who teh sk is??
On December 16 2013 05:32 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2013 05:18 Plutarch wrote:On December 16 2013 03:34 JarJarDrinks wrote: As much as I'd like the fact that I pushed hard for a townie lynch 2 days in a row to be false, I don't understand how Vayne can be scum anymore.
Purple tried to vote Vayne last minute. What purpose could that serve? I was pretty much the only person that thought Vayne was scum. Meanwhile the whole town suspected purple. Why would scum sacrifice Vayne to keep the very scummy Purple in the game? Please read my posts. Sigh, I explained this already. Vayne was forced to vote for purple as the leading counterwagon, just as purp was forced to crossvote vayne. if they had not done so they would have looked awful. Crossvoting allowed them a chance to live unless people thought hard enough about it. Please. I spent a lot of time writing that analysis. READ MY POSTS ONCE I AM DEAD. LYNCH VAYNE AND XATALOS. ah if this was the situation, then I unagree with jarjar and agree with hapa. This is actually a pretty serious misrepresentation that you've made jarjar. And it's one I've seen scum do before. "Look how this guy did something he would do as either alignment! It must mean he is X alignment!" FOS jarjar
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On December 19 2013 05:07 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2013 05:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Presuming Xatalos didn't try to WIFOM us by wanting Rayn/Plutarch shot and leaving BH alive, I'd say that makes Xigxag look slightly better in terms of not being scum because BH was the only one interested in actively pushing his policy lynch. Opinions? XigXag has a pretty good chance of flipping town. I strongly recommend against lynching him. We're past the time for a policy lynch; we missed our opportunity. If he's scum, we lose, if he's town, we have a chance to win. That's all we can do.
i agree with this. if he was anti town he would have been modkilled.
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so i think scum shot me, Plu, or kush himself depending on who the scum are..
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Blazinghand
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On December 19 2013 05:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2013 05:07 Blazinghand wrote:On December 19 2013 05:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Presuming Xatalos didn't try to WIFOM us by wanting Rayn/Plutarch shot and leaving BH alive, I'd say that makes Xigxag look slightly better in terms of not being scum because BH was the only one interested in actively pushing his policy lynch. Opinions? XigXag has a pretty good chance of flipping town. I strongly recommend against lynching him. We're past the time for a policy lynch; we missed our opportunity. If he's scum, we lose, if he's town, we have a chance to win. That's all we can do. You wouldn't even want to lynch him if everyone else looks townier than him and he stays (near-)afk?
I'd want to lynch him, for sure. It's a hard call to make. But at this point we have bigger fish on the table. There is 1+ scum between grack and plutarch; that situation demands our attention. It's entirely plausible that Plutarch is town, and same for Grack. Let's talk about them. Talk about them. Talk about them. Let's talk about them. Talk about Plutarch and Grack
Let's talk about Plutarch and Grack. At least one of them is scum
One of Plu and grack is scum. let's talk about them.
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On December 19 2013 05:09 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2013 05:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 19 2013 05:07 Blazinghand wrote:On December 19 2013 05:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Presuming Xatalos didn't try to WIFOM us by wanting Rayn/Plutarch shot and leaving BH alive, I'd say that makes Xigxag look slightly better in terms of not being scum because BH was the only one interested in actively pushing his policy lynch. Opinions? XigXag has a pretty good chance of flipping town. I strongly recommend against lynching him. We're past the time for a policy lynch; we missed our opportunity. If he's scum, we lose, if he's town, we have a chance to win. That's all we can do. You wouldn't even want to lynch him if everyone else looks townier than him and he stays (near-)afk? I'd want to lynch him, for sure. It's a hard call to make. But at this point we have bigger fish on the table. There is 1+ scum between grack and plutarch; that situation demands our attention. It's entirely plausible that Plutarch is town, and same for Grack. Let's talk about them. Talk about them. Talk about them. Let's talk about them. Talk about Plutarch and Grack Let's talk about Plutarch and Grack. At least one of them is scum One of Plu and grack is scum. let's talk about them. I already see plenty of talk on them and all these scenarios flying around. I think flips will give us a lot of clarity. If Plutarch flips then the decision is already made. If he doesn't, then presuming a CC comes we'll have so much more information then than we do now that I see little reason to speculate about it right now. If no CC comes that's a ton of information too.
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If I am town and get lynched would town lose?
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Blazinghand
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On December 19 2013 05:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2013 05:09 Blazinghand wrote:On December 19 2013 05:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 19 2013 05:07 Blazinghand wrote:On December 19 2013 05:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Presuming Xatalos didn't try to WIFOM us by wanting Rayn/Plutarch shot and leaving BH alive, I'd say that makes Xigxag look slightly better in terms of not being scum because BH was the only one interested in actively pushing his policy lynch. Opinions? XigXag has a pretty good chance of flipping town. I strongly recommend against lynching him. We're past the time for a policy lynch; we missed our opportunity. If he's scum, we lose, if he's town, we have a chance to win. That's all we can do. You wouldn't even want to lynch him if everyone else looks townier than him and he stays (near-)afk? I'd want to lynch him, for sure. It's a hard call to make. But at this point we have bigger fish on the table. There is 1+ scum between grack and plutarch; that situation demands our attention. It's entirely plausible that Plutarch is town, and same for Grack. Let's talk about them. Talk about them. Talk about them. Let's talk about them. Talk about Plutarch and Grack Let's talk about Plutarch and Grack. At least one of them is scum One of Plu and grack is scum. let's talk about them. I already see plenty of talk on them and all these scenarios flying around. I think flips will give us a lot of clarity. If Plutarch flips then the decision is already made. If he doesn't, then presuming a CC comes we'll have so much more information then than we do now that I see little reason to speculate about it right now. If no CC comes that's a ton of information too.
There's one scum within Plutarch and Grack. Talking about them now forces people (like you) to stake out positions before the flips / check results.
We should talk about plu and grack
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Blazinghand
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On December 19 2013 05:11 Plutarch wrote: If I am town and get lynched would town lose?
barring some weird cases with like scum and sk shooting each other I believe so, yes.
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On December 19 2013 05:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2013 05:09 Blazinghand wrote:On December 19 2013 05:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 19 2013 05:07 Blazinghand wrote:On December 19 2013 05:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Presuming Xatalos didn't try to WIFOM us by wanting Rayn/Plutarch shot and leaving BH alive, I'd say that makes Xigxag look slightly better in terms of not being scum because BH was the only one interested in actively pushing his policy lynch. Opinions? XigXag has a pretty good chance of flipping town. I strongly recommend against lynching him. We're past the time for a policy lynch; we missed our opportunity. If he's scum, we lose, if he's town, we have a chance to win. That's all we can do. You wouldn't even want to lynch him if everyone else looks townier than him and he stays (near-)afk? I'd want to lynch him, for sure. It's a hard call to make. But at this point we have bigger fish on the table. There is 1+ scum between grack and plutarch; that situation demands our attention. It's entirely plausible that Plutarch is town, and same for Grack. Let's talk about them. Talk about them. Talk about them. Let's talk about them. Talk about Plutarch and Grack Let's talk about Plutarch and Grack. At least one of them is scum One of Plu and grack is scum. let's talk about them. I already see plenty of talk on them and all these scenarios flying around. I think flips will give us a lot of clarity. If Plutarch flips then the decision is already made. If he doesn't, then presuming a CC comes we'll have so much more information then than we do now that I see little reason to speculate about it right now. If no CC comes that's a ton of information too.
If someone counter claims we MUST LYNCH GRACK. ok no discussion no anything we just LYNCH GRACK BECAUSE HE IS CONFIRMED SCUM.
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On December 19 2013 05:11 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2013 05:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 19 2013 05:09 Blazinghand wrote:On December 19 2013 05:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 19 2013 05:07 Blazinghand wrote:On December 19 2013 05:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Presuming Xatalos didn't try to WIFOM us by wanting Rayn/Plutarch shot and leaving BH alive, I'd say that makes Xigxag look slightly better in terms of not being scum because BH was the only one interested in actively pushing his policy lynch. Opinions? XigXag has a pretty good chance of flipping town. I strongly recommend against lynching him. We're past the time for a policy lynch; we missed our opportunity. If he's scum, we lose, if he's town, we have a chance to win. That's all we can do. You wouldn't even want to lynch him if everyone else looks townier than him and he stays (near-)afk? I'd want to lynch him, for sure. It's a hard call to make. But at this point we have bigger fish on the table. There is 1+ scum between grack and plutarch; that situation demands our attention. It's entirely plausible that Plutarch is town, and same for Grack. Let's talk about them. Talk about them. Talk about them. Let's talk about them. Talk about Plutarch and Grack Let's talk about Plutarch and Grack. At least one of them is scum One of Plu and grack is scum. let's talk about them. I already see plenty of talk on them and all these scenarios flying around. I think flips will give us a lot of clarity. If Plutarch flips then the decision is already made. If he doesn't, then presuming a CC comes we'll have so much more information then than we do now that I see little reason to speculate about it right now. If no CC comes that's a ton of information too. There's one scum within Plutarch and Grack. Talking about them now forces people (like you) to stake out positions before the flips / check results. We should talk about plu and grack I think Grack's claim is highly unbelievable. I've already stated this. His claim came at an incredibly odd time and his push on Vayne didn't make any sense, nor did his response to the purple lynch.
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^his push on Vayne after he checked him, that is.
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On December 19 2013 05:12 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2013 05:11 Plutarch wrote: If I am town and get lynched would town lose? barring some weird cases with like scum and sk shooting each other I believe so, yes.
How convenient for a fake claiming cop. if town wasn't in MYLO this would not be worth it for scum to fake claim.
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Blazinghand
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On December 19 2013 05:14 Plutarch wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2013 05:12 Blazinghand wrote:On December 19 2013 05:11 Plutarch wrote: If I am town and get lynched would town lose? barring some weird cases with like scum and sk shooting each other I believe so, yes. How convenient for a fake claiming cop. if town wasn't in MYLO this would not be worth it for scum to fake claim.
yeah in general I am in favor of lynching Grack, even if he's not counterclaimed
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Ok. Seriously. If I die then lynch Grack and JJD. Promise me please. I am beyond concerned that town will somehow fuck up an almost solved game.
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lol Rayn twisting the actions
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