On December 01 2013 02:25 Kurumi wrote:
How come you missed Warwick as a Mafia champ, assassin always is crazy good at hands of mafia since they know the alignment. Rammus is scary as well if Mafia gets a good composition.
How much HP does everyone have? How much damage is actually "damage"?
This is not how Warwick works.
I already asked this question.
gj at not reading at all. Easy way to enter the thread and get some posts discussing your own mistake.
On December 01 2013 02:34 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2013 02:29 supersoft wrote:On December 01 2013 02:25 Kurumi wrote:
How come you missed Warwick as a Mafia champ, assassin always is crazy good at hands of mafia since they know the alignment. Rammus is scary as well if Mafia gets a good composition.
How much HP does everyone have? How much damage is actually "damage"?
Warwick - Infinite Duress - At night, you may submit the name and champion name of a player. If you guess correctly, that player takes damage, or if they are under 50% health, they are killed. If you guess wrong your target is informed that you visited them last phase. May not be used on consecutive nights.
You need to know the name of the player - look up your PM, you actually are a player - and the champion of this player...
I think this char is pretty useless...
Oh this way. Still, if Ashe/Quinn is picked by Mafia WW is crazy strong and they probably have more powers than we know, so.
This is still wrong. supersoft is also wrong because you don't need to know the name of role PM obviously... That would be retarded. But seems like Kurumi actually believes this. I don't understand how 2 people misinterpreted that hero but if you need to know the name of the player in your role PM then Warwick is actually 100% useless.
But what does Kurumi say to justify his Warwick obsession? "
Mafia WW is crazy strong and they probably have more powers than we know" Seriously? "I wasn't wrong about Warwick because scum has extra powers". Please tell us more.
On December 01 2013 02:36 Kurumi wrote:
We don't give out our pick numbers until we know the draft results. It worked last PYP and I am going to do same here.
Ok, seems like the guy has a plan.
On December 01 2013 03:04 Kurumi wrote:
I am going to find the fastest way to kill rayn, just throwing it out. He's aggressive, being all around dick for the sake of being a dick and tries to shove his "great plan" based on his own reads on all of town. I might even pick 1,1 just out of spite.
Is rayn scum? Is rayn town? Is rayn just a dick? Does he agree with the townreads? I guess he does? Really don't understand this post tbh but I feel like Kurumi thinks rayn is town from this post. Or even
knows rayn is town. What is the goal here? Looks like Kurumi is trying to undermine rayn. Or just trow dirt at rayn. Which is a recurring theme for Kurumi posting.
On December 01 2013 05:07 Kurumi wrote:
##vote: Warwick
Really, why vote Warwick when you need the role pm player name??
On December 01 2013 06:38 Kurumi wrote:
The plan from last PYP I played or last PYP I remember is claiming numbers after we have draft list, so we can see what we picked and where we ended. Makes for quite good analysis later on as for how mafia decided to pick.
Yes, this guy has a plan after he gathered the numbers.
On December 01 2013 20:06 Kurumi wrote:
EWODP
Koshi [2][1]
Kurumi [4][6]
VisceraEyes [5][4]
jcarlsoniv [9][3]
Mig [12][1]
JonnyLaw
Risen [15][15]
StorrZerg
geript [24][24]
austinmcc
Meapak_Ziphh
Sandroba
Kenpachi[8][15]
Rean [16][2]
bumatlarge [16][12]
BloddyC0bbler
justanothertownie
marvellosity
gtrsrs [7][11]
OdinOfPergo [7][16]
Mocsta
supersoft [1][30]
Oatsmaster [1][1]
raynpelikoneet [1][1]
onlywonderboy
ticklishmusic
Roffles
Bill Murray
jaybrundage
nyxnyxnyx
so far, going to read the thread instead of numbers now
Soon he will reveal the plan, right?
On December 01 2013 22:55 Kurumi wrote:
Mafia really does not want us to know their champion names.
I looked in the thread why he posted this one liner. I don't know. Maybe crumbing he was going to pick Warwick? So I guess he now knows that he doesn't need to know the name of the role pm player. Never mentions it in the thread though, and he got second pick so he can kinda spoil he will pick Warwick. Unless he wants to bait scum in picking warwick. But why crumb shit? Dnu really.
On December 02 2013 00:25 Kurumi wrote:
I'm wondering why the hell would Oats go 1,1 after rayn claimed to get those.
Why you did not want Rayn first Oats?
Kurumi blaming Oats for doing something he would do out of spite off rayn himself. Kurumi also showing that he thinks rayn is town.
On December 02 2013 00:53 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 00:49 jaybrundage wrote:
When do we pick champs and should we be open about it I have never played PYP before
We pick now. No, you don't claim who you pick. We can make lists as to direct people to pick stuff, because it might help people not quite familiar with PYP.
Why is Kurumi not bringing his opinion up later when people are claiming what they will pick? But ok, seems like Kurumi likes some secrecy around the picks. UNTIL he gets warwick and it's all about BLUECLAIM ALL PL0X
On December 02 2013 01:17 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 01:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
So much LoL. So much. All of my LoLs.
First time I've seen you troll, just let me note that I think that's scummy as fuck because you never played like that, you always were invested as Town, to the point where you'd throw tantrums.
VE scummy like fuck.
On December 02 2013 01:59 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 01:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
So rayn;'s plan, claim 1/1, then dont pick 1/1 and YOU KNOW that town is gonna pick 1/1 but scum wants roles more than town so they aint gonna pick 1/1
Noone ever is going to get the same number as someone claimed unless they want to drown them somewhere deep down in the draft list.
You remember that great plan Kurumi had around the picking of numbers? We still haven't heard anything of that. Also, Oats wasn't only guy that picked 1 as first number, and the Oats-theory is not even touched by Kurumi. Kurumi just trows some blame towards Oats.
On December 02 2013 18:54 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 15:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im vt, i have power to change the list. Its cool.
Geript scummy, grytssss also.
What did you try to pick?
That question is for all vts.
You remember how Kurumi said to not claim blue? Basically he is here trying to figure out all the blues. Which helps him a shitton with his super antitown hero ww. (his words)
On December 02 2013 19:12 Kurumi wrote:
Koshi [2][1] Viktor
Kurumi [4][6] Big Bad Wolf
VisceraEyes [5][4] Lux
jcarlsoniv [9][3]
Mig [12][1] Urgot?
JonnyLaw [14[11]
Risen [15][15]
StorrZerg [23][23]
geript [24][24] Warwick? -> VT?
austinmcc [6][3]
Meapak_Ziphh [6][14]
Sandroba Fiora?
Kenpachi[8][15] VT?
Rean [16][2] ?->VT
bumatlarge [16][12] Tryndamere?
BloddyC0bbler [17][5] Janna?
justanothertownie
marvellosity [7][2]
gtrsrs [7][11] Kha'Zix -> VT
OdinOfPergo [7][16] Karma -> VT
Mocsta [1][5] ? ->VT
supersoft [1][30]
Oatsmaster [1][1] Cho'Gath ->VT
raynpelikoneet [1][1] Shen
Last because no numbers sent?
kushm4sta
ticklishmusic Taric
Roffles
Coagulation
jaybrundage [Tabbz] Ezreal?
LSB -> Tryndamere
Looks like Kurumi is pro mass claiming. As the scum Warwick he needs to figure out who is which hero. Why not try and get some activity town cred while doing his scummy works.
On December 02 2013 19:13 Kurumi wrote:
Those same numbers people look suspicious to me.
Risen, StorrZerg, Geript, Oatsmaster
I guess this was the great "analyse" of the draft numbers like they did in that previous PYP game because there is nothing else in Kurumi his filter. Those evul guys picking double numbers. Failproof scumhunting.
On December 02 2013 19:20 Kurumi wrote:
So far I think Oats is scum, no idea about vets, I like bum, marv is sneaky, jcarl for some reason soft defended me and behaves weird, people are fishing for hp, what.
I guess the double number thing is a joke? Because these are not the same names.
On December 02 2013 19:27 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 19:24 Koshi wrote:On December 02 2013 19:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because the game is about information and knowing what roles are where. I am totally in for mass claiming. Why did you claim picking the inventor if you don't want scum to know who is VT and where the roles are?
Anyways i hope you are town and if you are i hope you use the inventor role well. Don't make stupid/weak stuff. I'll protect you on N1 -> D3. So you can't possibly die. Watcher should check me on N1 so that in case i get roleblocked we can be sure that player is scum and lynch them. In case i do not get roleblocked Koshi is guaranteed to live to at least N3 and we have a lot of inventions.
That's my plan.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I am going to make the aegis for myself on N1. I should never die and the watcher should just watch me.
Just make sure you'll make it through N1, Private Bapkins.
Joke I guess.
On December 02 2013 19:28 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 19:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 02 2013 19:24 Koshi wrote:On December 02 2013 19:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because the game is about information and knowing what roles are where. I am totally in for mass claiming. Why did you claim picking the inventor if you don't want scum to know who is VT and where the roles are?
Anyways i hope you are town and if you are i hope you use the inventor role well. Don't make stupid/weak stuff. I'll protect you on N1 -> D3. So you can't possibly die. Watcher should check me on N1 so that in case i get roleblocked we can be sure that player is scum and lynch them. In case i do not get roleblocked Koshi is guaranteed to live to at least N3 and we have a lot of inventions.
That's my plan.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I am going to make the aegis for myself on N1. I should never die and the watcher should just watch me.
Why would you not make something useful instead?
Because that does not help us finding scum, it only keeps you alive.
I think giving listcheck to someone and claiming it just before night ends is the best scenario. Mafia can't abstain, so we get a check off anyway.
rayn already suggested this. Kurumi wants the rayn dick. As previously seen with trying to make Oats look bad picking 1,1 just like rayn did.
On December 02 2013 19:44 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 19:40 supersoft wrote:
why is everyone claiming VT? Do want to make it super easy for scum or what is your intention?!
Don't claim if you don't have a good reason.
Day1 is not the day for a mass role claim.
It is on. Cant stop what we started, so please comply.
Massclaim so useful for scum Kurumi.
On December 02 2013 19:50 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 19:44 supersoft wrote:
...Kurumis list is a roadmap for bluesnipes. wtf are you thinking?!
Not sure, last time I checked I was an assassin and town, so that list is handy to me, also keeps track of our mass claim?
There is no reason why Kurumi wants everybody to massclaim. Sure his handy for him though.
NOW HOLD ON A MINUTE. Kurumi really wants to use that warwick spell it seems. Or at least is not even considering not using it. More proof later.
On December 02 2013 19:54 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 19:52 Koshi wrote:On December 02 2013 19:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Trust me on this. My role is in fact fucking awesome. All i need is to prement myself from being roleblocked on N1 and everything will be good. In case i do not get roleblocked on N1 and something goes south you can lynch me.
I am still going to make the aegis for myself. You people need to scumhunt to find scummers. I shall not die this game.
Yeah you might not die till the endgame and still lose, so listen up Private - we are in this shit together, so stop crying for diapers because there are no babies in brawl.
Here I am town.
On December 02 2013 19:56 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 19:55 Koshi wrote:
Ok, if you people are able to lynch a scum with a superpowerful role today I might reconsider.
Sounds like you are describing yourself!
Here I am scum.
2 minutes between those 2.
On December 02 2013 20:00 Kurumi wrote:
I do not care about cool items, if I would like to I would spend two nights trying to get rid of you and I can do that regardless of the flavour of the condom you invent for your head. We never came up with anything better than a listcheck, so why bother trying not to do that?
rayn tries to convince me by saying he will keep me save. Kurumi says he can kill me with or without aegis or ??? I don't even know what the fuck he is saying. I guess he says I am special and that scum can kill me if they want. Like. wtf? Also, looks like Kurumi knows I am town. I don't even know why. Why would he pressure threatening to kill me in the night? That's how scum would kill me. Look what marv says: marv say he wants to lynch me if I don't comply. That's townie. Kurumi says he will nightkill me. rofl.
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Because I am already bored and totes right Kurumi is scum I shall point out only a couple more post
On December 02 2013 20:06 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 20:02 supersoft wrote:On December 02 2013 19:50 Kurumi wrote:On December 02 2013 19:44 supersoft wrote:
...Kurumis list is a roadmap for bluesnipes. wtf are you thinking?!
Not sure, last time I checked I was an assassin and town, so that list is handy to me, also keeps track of our mass claim?
1. there is no massclaim.
2. assassin, yes. town is a solid questionmark right now.
3. also hidden abilities might target special characters.
The worst outcome for a massclaim is when some claim and when some dont. At this very moment yes, mafia have blues for picking. That changes the moment we complete the claiming cycle.
I wont kill rayn. I said before that I would but I have changed my mind after reading the thread.
Does anybody understand this? Why is it the worst outcome if a couple guys keep their blue a secret?
Kurumi is really screaming TELL SCUM ALL THE BLUES, I don't know why.
On December 02 2013 20:47 Kurumi wrote:
Gtrsrs was very aggressive in the game I played with him. In fact he was so good and aggressive that iGrok(godfather) banned him out of his games out of spite since gtrsrs and I pushed lynch on him.
Another guy Kurumi trows dirt on.
On December 02 2013 22:54 Kurumi wrote:
I am scared about nidalee. High profile players are both at the start and the end of the signup list :/ My second ability helps my main as well. Thief role would be a real bummer if hidden, so I do not think it is likely. Will try to go over jcarl, gtrsrs again when I am home. Especially bum's case and what have MZ Mig and BC done so far.
1) Something about nidalee without extra explanation.
2) Something about vets everywhere on the list.
3) Something about his second ability.
4) Something about a thief role.
5) Promises activity.
6) Trows some more dirt at players.
On December 02 2013 23:09 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 22:59 sandroba wrote:
I have a sugestion for the invention. Make a checker that you choose a number and it returns the number of scum that first picked that number. That way you can use it to single check people or to confirm/check multiple people in the number clusters.
Sounds far less useful than classic listcheck.
You can actually pick 1 or 7 and confirm 4 town or 3 town or have at least 25% odds on mafia or at least 33% odds on mafia. Not a bad idea at all.
On December 02 2013 23:51 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 11:32 Mocsta wrote:
Why so much hate on plans / vs / not plans.
In the end we roll with whatever we get, just like any other game.
Im not role claiming anyways. Got burnt by it last PYP where BM fake-claimed justice vigi.
As for Mocsta one big thing that stands out is that he asks people for opinions but never does provide them himself... unless asked. Diving deeper.
You remember that promised activity? Mocsta isn't one of those 2 names. But what the hell. TROW SOME DIRT.
On December 03 2013 00:13 Kurumi wrote:
Mig
He can be ill till D2 for all I care. There is no way to get anything from his posts at all.
BloodyC0bbler
Not much to note besides being against a massclaim, but there is something interesting - he says that Warwick is not that good, because he has to know more to work. I think he started this Urgot wagon, which is pretty decent, he probably was a bus driver as well because of his ultimate in-game. He fought a little with the massclaim plan, but not much. Something is fishy, but he is laid-back in his posts so I am willing to give BC some leeway.
Meapak_Ziphh
Defends VE pretty hardcore, not much besides "I know him", makes a case on gtrsrs without any meta - posts found in my opinion are absolutely not what I've seen from gtrsrs. He does not care. He does whatever he wants. He shouts. He kicks. He bites. He wants to be in spotlight. He is never wrong. He is the man. Here, he is a tiny weenie potato. Something in the ground. MZ posts enough so I think his alignment will be known soon. As for now, I am a little interested why Mocsta defended gtrsrs and attacked MZ... Chainsaw defence?
bumatlarge
His case on jcarl is sound - that means, jcarl looks scummy. Bum was trying to coordinate things a little and saw Warwick as a threat.
@bum, what do you think about gtrsrs and geript?
I simply don't like it. Look at BC:
1) Nothing to note except this 1 thing which I won't explain why it is noteworthy.
2) But then trows dirt on BC for saying this:
However I disagree with his list a bit. I honestly think warwick is not as much of a threat as he thinks it is. Why? Because it requires active knowledge of peoples roles for mafia to use it properly. It is a role that late game the mafia perhaps could use if people start claiming or what not but honestly I believe in a pyp setup no one should really ever claim unless they are 100% dead to a lynch. IMO only the people in the top 7 slots should be claiming in the event that they attempt to take their allotted role and they don't get it. IE someone in the list above them sniped the role and let theirs drop down to someone else.
So BC believes mass claiming is bad and therefore warwick is not the most useful hero for scum. What is so strange and "interesting" about this? Why does Kurumi paint it like that?
3) Some random stuff about Urgot having bussdriver.
4) "Something is fishy" Again Kurumi is trowning dirt but nobody fucking knows why. What is fishy?
5) ends with BC is cool anyway even though his gut feeling tells him that BC is fishy.
O rly?
On December 03 2013 01:17 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 01:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Kurumi - out of curiosity - why did you link your own filter to kush to look at?
Probably to prove a point my mind tried to show me - kushm4sta does not care at all what he is going to read.
On December 03 2013 01:23 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 01:19 kushm4sta wrote:On December 03 2013 01:17 Kurumi wrote:On December 03 2013 01:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Kurumi - out of curiosity - why did you link your own filter to kush to look at?
Probably to prove a point my mind tried to show me - kushm4sta does not care at all what he is going to read.
huh what do you mean by this? you mean im scum or lazy?
Lazy scum.
On December 03 2013 01:26 Kurumi wrote:I'm very sorry, but this guy came into the thread, made half-assed analysis of me, said that gtrsrs is town for no reason, said jcarl is town for no reason and you think I am not going to call him out on that?
The reaction on Kush trowing some suspicion onto him is just hilarious knowing Kurumi has done NOTHING ELSE THAN TROW DIRT EVERYWHERE.
On December 03 2013 01:27 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 01:26 kushm4sta wrote:On December 03 2013 01:23 Kurumi wrote:On December 03 2013 01:19 kushm4sta wrote:On December 03 2013 01:17 Kurumi wrote:On December 03 2013 01:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Kurumi - out of curiosity - why did you link your own filter to kush to look at?
Probably to prove a point my mind tried to show me - kushm4sta does not care at all what he is going to read.
huh what do you mean by this? you mean im scum or lazy?
Lazy scum.
gl with that opinion. im voting you now.
You forgot about "Kurumi is not trolling" in your brilliant analysis, it'd remind me of those good old days where I had to decide out of 3 scum N1 which one to kill.
Yeah, Kurumi is going to kill people if they dare to do something to him. harr harr harr
On December 03 2013 03:12 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 03:09 Koshi wrote:On December 03 2013 02:58 Kurumi wrote:On December 03 2013 02:57 Koshi wrote:
Kurumi. Do you like Warwick?
I picked Warwick because I have seen him as a big threat, since he was not banned. Does that mean I like Warwick? Well, he has one of the easiest jungles out there, but is very boring, all he can do is auto-attack or ulti in-game.
Ok. But my real question was: Does Warwick work like this thread thinks he works? Do you like that? Is it usable?
I am an assassin. I know you are Viktor. That means I can touch you at night and maybe kill you if you are wounded enough.
On the other hand, I can touch some people and confirm their roles, but that'd take cooperation and time.
Yes, let me damage people for the sole purpose to confirm their roles. PLEASE GUYS.