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First, just so it's clear to the thread, I'm like 95% sure that rayn is town (or at least not scum), because - Drawn a lot of attention to himself
- Seems very genuine in his defense of sn0_man, his fixation on TK, and his back-and-forth with me
- Posts very similarly to Ego Mini where we were both town.
On August 29 2013 10:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: What do you think of TK?
I explained most of my thought process here: + Show Spoiler [me] +On August 29 2013 09:43 sciberbia wrote: on TK I'm having a hard time deciding whether TK's response was scum or town motivated. I can easily see scum motivation in trying to justify some wagon on rayn (assuming rayn is town), especially after sheeping onto yamato's policy wagon.
However, I very much like his response to my prodding. The fact that he deemed his questions to rayn a waste of time and decided to ignore rayn indicates a more townie thought process. Also the fact that he spontaneously changed direction over the course of three minutes is a point in his favor.
I guess I'm back to nullish on TK.
His most recent posts look fine to me. At least he posted some actual reads. I'm open to persuasion but right now I don't see any good reason to think he is scum. I'm leaning town if anything.
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##unvote ##Vote Marvellosity
Seems like a warm place for my vote.
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On August 29 2013 11:35 yamato77 wrote: ##unvote ##Vote Marvellosity
Seems like a warm place for my vote. If I were to offer you 1 million dollars if you could correctly identify 1 scum, who would your guess be and why?
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On August 29 2013 11:39 sciberbia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 11:35 yamato77 wrote: ##unvote ##Vote Marvellosity
Seems like a warm place for my vote. If I were to offer you 1 million dollars if you could correctly identify 1 scum, who would your guess be and why? Votes usually have something to do with reads.
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yamato.... why are you playing hard-to-get? I thought we had something special.
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On August 29 2013 11:52 Tutankoopa wrote: yamato.... why are you playing hard-to-get? I thought we had something special.
I think my vote speaks for itself.
Has Marv done anything particularly useful or even commented on anything yet? No. I want him to play the game. If he's town, it's not difficult.
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#vote scibs
his game reminds me of his scum game.
I see a divide btw him and rayn. I definitely dony see both as scum.
this smurf tonka stuff seems to be overreaction, but ill let if go yo see who it truly be. Ill look over scribs posts better later tonight when not drunk
<3 hopeless
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I'm surprisingly content with where my vote is.
It was, of course, utter bullshit though so It's coming off. Hopefully there will be something interesting in the morning.
##Unvote
p.s. PLS BASED RAYN NO SPAMS
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Also, a 95% town read is full retard early d1 is full retard as town. As scum, its dumb but it has motivations (avoid early conflict, make friend of someone who apparently is consider3d bad town).
Vote scribs guise
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On August 29 2013 11:39 sciberbia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 11:35 yamato77 wrote: ##unvote ##Vote Marvellosity
Seems like a warm place for my vote. If I were to offer you 1 million dollars if you could correctly identify 1 scum, who would your guess be and why?
Could I not say the same to you?
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On August 29 2013 11:56 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 11:52 Tutankoopa wrote: yamato.... why are you playing hard-to-get? I thought we had something special.
I think my vote speaks for itself. Has Marv done anything particularly useful or even commented on anything yet? No. I want him to play the game. If he's town, it's not difficult.
Seems like a bit of a premature read considering he was only around for the first hour of gameplay - and reading the first few pages shows pretty much nothing, just people who are playing around since there's literally nothing to go off during the first few hours.
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I guess, but then you sound confident enough that you'd take scrib's million dollar offer on a premature read?
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13 idiots walk into a bar.
Story of Idiot #1: + Show Spoiler +ONE asks for a glass of water. The bartender pulls out a revolver and points it at the idiot. The idiot says, "Thank you" and walks out of the bar.
Why?
To be continued...
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On August 29 2013 15:36 Sylencia wrote: I guess, but then you sound confident enough that you'd take scrib's million dollar offer on a premature read? Should we just not talk?
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On August 29 2013 13:19 debears wrote: #vote scibs
his game reminds me of his scum game.
In order to make any sort of meta read, you would have to show something this game that is similar to my scum games but different from my town games, which I am quite sure you cannot do. For one thing you've never even seen me play town.
On August 29 2013 13:26 debears wrote: Also, a 95% town read is full retard early d1 is full retard as town.
Can you point to any good reason for thinking rayn is scum? Do you disagree with my reasons for thinking he's town? There's like a 75% chance he's town just on math, so given that I have several good reasons to think he's town I think 95% is reasonable.
On August 29 2013 13:26 debears wrote: As scum, its dumb but it has motivations (avoid early conflict, make friend of someone who apparently is consider3d bad town).
-- Does it look to you like I avoided early conflict with rayn this game? -- I didn't even explain how I thought he was town until he unvoted me. I don't think you thought this through very well.
On August 29 2013 13:30 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 11:39 sciberbia wrote:On August 29 2013 11:35 yamato77 wrote: ##unvote ##Vote Marvellosity
Seems like a warm place for my vote. If I were to offer you 1 million dollars if you could correctly identify 1 scum, who would your guess be and why? Could I not say the same to you? Of course you can ask me who I think is mafia. I'm a little disappointed because there isn't much to go on yet, but my best guesses at mafia would be sn0_man, yourself, and yamato, in that order.
1) sn0_man for being in the thread for hours without doing anything relevant at all. And making some weird comment about being content with his vote on me, but then unvoting me for no reason.
2) Yourself for making some imo poor scumhunting attempts -- see above. Not sure how much of that is due to alchohol and how much due to your alignment though.
3) And yamato for being in the thread but avoiding engaging in discussion. Also I don't understand why marv is his strongest scumread for being useless when there is a whole handful of players who are as of yet equally useless.
I'd appreciate it if sylencia/tofu/yamato/anyone would chime in with agree/disagree on these three.
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On August 29 2013 16:01 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 15:36 Sylencia wrote: I guess, but then you sound confident enough that you'd take scrib's million dollar offer on a premature read? Should we just not talk?
Is that really the path you're going to go down?
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On August 29 2013 16:21 sciberbia wrote: Of course you can ask me who I think is mafia. I'm a little disappointed because there isn't much to go on yet, but my best guesses at mafia would be sn0_man, yourself, and yamato, in that order.
1) sn0_man for being in the thread for hours without doing anything relevant at all. And making some weird comment about being content with his vote on me, but then unvoting me for no reason.
2) Yourself for making some imo poor scumhunting attempts -- see above. Not sure how much of that is due to alchohol and how much due to your alignment though.
3) And yamato for being in the thread but avoiding engaging in discussion. Also I don't understand why marv is his strongest scumread for being useless when there is a whole handful of players who are as of yet equally useless.
I'd appreciate it if sylencia/tofu/yamato/anyone would chime in with agree/disagree on these three.
Sn0, not really - reading his second post makes it look like he skimmed the thread, unvoted and went off to sleep or something. If he was around for hours I would've expected more than 2 posts there.
debears - Agreed, mainly so far just due to the fact he's pushing on a lynch based on an exaggerated statement - at least I assume it was exaggerated. Given the rest of the post I'm quoting, maybe it's not but I saw it as being exaggerated.
yamato - He's not avoiding discussion (I think), I just think his read on marv is weak.
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So many of you have no idea how to play D1
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