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On July 24 2013 07:52 FirmTofu wrote: While I think getmoript may be lying about his claim, I think he is more likely to be a VT pushing a strong scum read in TAA.
Explain this right now.
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United States1956 Posts
On July 24 2013 07:54 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 07:52 FirmTofu wrote: While I think getmoript may be lying about his claim, I think he is more likely to be a VT pushing a strong scum read in TAA.
Explain this right now. I think it's possible that you are VT claiming cop in order to push your strongest scumread. Am I right?
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Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On July 24 2013 07:53 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm more interested in lynching the red check. But that's just me.
-VE qff
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United States1956 Posts
If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask. If you want me to vote for anyone other than TG or jrkirby today, you're going to have to make a really solid case against them and convince me.
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On July 24 2013 07:57 FirmTofu wrote: If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask. If you want me to vote for anyone other than TG or jrkirby today, you're going to have to make a really solid case against them and convince me. Given TAA's reaction post, you think it's more likely that:
(1) getmoript is not actually a cop, fakeclaiming a red check on a scumread of his, who responded in that manner but is town AND TG or jrkirby is scum (which I still agree with on TG)
than
(2) getmoript either is or isn't a cop, nobody cares, and TAA is scum
?
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On July 24 2013 07:56 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 07:54 getmoript wrote:On July 24 2013 07:52 FirmTofu wrote: While I think getmoript may be lying about his claim, I think he is more likely to be a VT pushing a strong scum read in TAA.
Explain this right now. I think it's possible that you are VT claiming cop in order to push your strongest scumread. Am I right? No. Explain WHY you think that.
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On July 24 2013 07:57 FirmTofu wrote: If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask. If you want me to vote for anyone other than TG or jrkirby today, you're going to have to make a really solid case against them and convince me. This is the second time you've said complete bullshit like this. You've NEVER done this as town AFAIK. Town exceptionally rarely take this attitude because they know that they need to work together. Admit it, you're scum.
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Sanya12364 Posts
Is this all getript right now?
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On July 24 2013 07:52 FirmTofu wrote: That being said, I would much prefer to lynch jrkirby or TG today. I think we should hold of on lynching potential blues unless we are certain that one of them is scum.
Dude we have a redcheck. As much as I haven't been crazy about getmoript, it's unlikely he's lying here unless he really wanted to go all in to save oats. In which case: bamn, 2 scum caught. Add to that cora's wierd counter and I think it's crazy that you'd suggest lynching from outside of that circle.
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United States1956 Posts
On July 24 2013 07:59 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 07:57 FirmTofu wrote: If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask. If you want me to vote for anyone other than TG or jrkirby today, you're going to have to make a really solid case against them and convince me. Given TAA's reaction post, you think it's more likely that: (1) getmoript is not actually a cop, fakeclaiming a red check on a scumread of his, who responded in that manner but is town AND TG or jrkirby is scum (which I still agree with on TG) than (2) getmoript either is or isn't a cop, nobody cares, and TAA is scum ? No, I don't think it is likely that getmoript is not actually a cop. I'm saying it is a definite possibility considering how adamant he has been about his read of TAA.
TAA could definitely be scum but considering that I have nothing to go off of except a cop role claim that may or may not be sane, I'm not willing to blindly follow the train on TAA just yet. If you can convince me of his alignment either way, I will definitely be willing to vote him.
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United States1956 Posts
On July 24 2013 08:00 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 07:56 FirmTofu wrote:On July 24 2013 07:54 getmoript wrote:On July 24 2013 07:52 FirmTofu wrote: While I think getmoript may be lying about his claim, I think he is more likely to be a VT pushing a strong scum read in TAA.
Explain this right now. I think it's possible that you are VT claiming cop in order to push your strongest scumread. Am I right? No. Explain WHY you think that. I don't think that you are 100% VT and your claim is 100% false. I'm saying its a possibility. In a game of probability such as mafia, we need to be on top of all possible outcomes and this is a possible outcome I think most people have overlooked.
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Marshall Islands1474 Posts
Firm, what on earth are you doing? Read TAA's reaction. Good god.
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Ok... here's 3 filters from my scum games LXI, PTP, TheGame. Look at the length of those. Look at the length of my filter now. Alignment proven.
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United States1956 Posts
On July 24 2013 06:21 TheAwesomeAll wrote: claiming detective instead of making a case is cheating I will address this post directly because everyone seems to think I am scum for not addressing it.
This post does not reflect well upon TAA, I totally agree. However, I don't think it makes him 100% scum either. He could be newb town that doesn't feel like defending himself in a situation where it's his word against getmoript's.
I've been placed in a sort of similar situation in Sicilian and I know how it feels. Ace fakeclaimed and called me mafia, which was a lie. I didn't even feel like defending myself because there was really nothing I could say. It was my word against his.
Anyway, like I said, I'm not against lynching TAA. He's still a null-scum read to me, especially after this post. I will look into his filter, give me a few minutes.
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@5T. Tofu isn't this obtuse. Tofu is actually a pretty decent player. I can't understand how he comes to his conclusions. He still hasn't answered why he would think I would fakeclaim. I mean what's the point.
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Marshall Islands1474 Posts
You might just be town for this incredible weirdness, Firm.
If TAA somehow flips town, you look pretty terrible though.
~marv
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Marshall Islands1474 Posts
getmoript: I don't really get why a scummer would fight against a redcheck the whole town is going to be voting for, that's the thing.
~marv
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I want people to go all in and save me.
But day 1 isnt me being scummy, its me not even fucking playing. Austin, why cant you tell the difference? Do you think activity is a scumtell?
also TAA's post i assume.
On July 24 2013 06:21 TheAwesomeAll wrote: claiming detective instead of making a case is cheating
Yeah lol wtf.
I have never ever seen a detective check himself. Never. On a whole though, checking yourself is scummy because town gets 1 less check. Is geript sane?
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On July 24 2013 08:13 FirmTofu wrote: This post does not reflect well upon TAA, I totally agree. However, I don't think it makes him 100% scum either. He could be newb town that doesn't feel like defending himself in a situation where it's his word against getmoript's.
And how did you react in Sicilian? Was you're initial reaction like, "Awww man, claiming is cheetor hax" or were you all like, "WTF. I'm Town. Maybe I could be miller. Here's my claim. Herpaderp." Dude puts no effort in this game, looks scummy as hell. You admit he's looks scummy for stuff. You completely disbelieve the most active, thread driving, attention whoring, asshole, douchebag in the thread is town AND question his roleclaim because random bs reason. This is inexplicable if you're town.
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United States1956 Posts
On July 24 2013 08:16 getmoript wrote: @5T. Tofu isn't this obtuse. Tofu is actually a pretty decent player. I can't understand how he comes to his conclusions. He still hasn't answered why he would think I would fakeclaim. I mean what's the point. You would fakeclaim because it's convenient. It's an easy way to push your reads when you don't feel like making a solid case against someone. Your posts prior to your claim are somewhat indicative of this sentiment.
You seemed a bit frustrated that no one was agreeing with you about TAA. By fakeclaiming as VT, you could get town on your side relatively easily and lynch someone that you thought was very likely to slip scum. It's a move I would certainly consider if I were in your position as a VT and I genuinely thought TAA was scum.
Of course, this is all dependent on the idea that you are very confident in your scum read of TAA.
Regardless, I never said you fakeclaiming is the most likely scenario. You probably didn't fake claim, but I'd put the probability around 25% that you did.
I think you are probably not lying about your claim and you are probably a cop who got red on TAA. I don't want to bandwagon TAA just yet because of reasons I have stated previously.
Your sanity is not entirely clear. We have a "counter" cop claim. I still have yet to see a solid case against TAA. Going to go back to reading TAA's filter now.
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