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On June 27 2013 04:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Or is it part of the role? Might as well not hide it anymore, but the TARDIS is basically sk8r's role. There was a small change to his role which makes things a lot clearer now, which I didn't learn about until today because stuff wasn't making sense.
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On June 27 2013 04:43 Crossfire99 wrote:Might as well not hide it anymore, but the TARDIS is basically sk8r's role. There was a small change to his role which makes things a lot clearer now, which I didn't learn about until today because stuff wasn't making sense.
Why did you learn it today and not before?
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Please tell us wtf it does. Did it protect Kita from getting shot?
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On June 27 2013 04:36 Crossfire99 wrote: Sorry for disappearing, I've been really busy. I'm here now until lynch. Gonzaw you're right that I have your role, but I didn't use any abilities last night because I didn't want to waste anything when I wasn't sure about people. I didn't get any new abilities, maybe because I didn't use anything last night T_T.
I'm not liking sk8r too much anymore. He already answered what questions I wanted to ask, but didn't get a chance to. Basically, I still don't understand why he gave the TARDIS to the people he supposedly gave it to. Why solstice and why kita?
No, you should have gotten a new ability today after answering a host PM. Please tell us what you got (tell me the name of the item you got).
If not, then PM deconduo back with your answer.
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And the lovetapping meant nothing?
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On June 27 2013 04:42 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 04:40 Crossfire99 wrote:On June 27 2013 04:38 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 27 2013 04:36 Crossfire99 wrote: Sorry for disappearing, I've been really busy. I'm here now until lynch. Gonzaw you're right that I have your role, but I didn't use any abilities last night because I didn't want to waste anything when I wasn't sure about people. I didn't get any new abilities, maybe because I didn't use anything last night T_T.
I'm not liking sk8r too much anymore. He already answered what questions I wanted to ask, but didn't get a chance to. Basically, I still don't understand why he gave the TARDIS to the people he supposedly gave it to. Why solstice and why kita? Wan't there a specific way gonzaw asked you to confirm it? Uh, idk. Did he? I can confirm I have it though. I already breadcrumbed it earlier to him, which I think he picked up on. Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 03:34 gonzaw wrote: Well, I might as well reveal what mine does. I won't reveal the "juicy bits", but effectively, ma niggah last night could do one of the following:
1)Protect himself of 1 KP 2)Busdrive 2 dudes 3)RB a dude I presume he used (1) since nobody claimed RBed or funny stuff
Also, right now he has one of 2 new abilities, which if he's scum then we are in bad hands as well :/ I'll wait until he claims what ability he got (he can only know one of them, can't know both) so he doesn't lie or something.
At least this is if the role didn't get nerfed so I have no idea.
deconduo, if you nerfed a role, did you tell the role creator about the nerf? You know, considering it'd be kind of "unfair", benefiting the people who created roles that WERENT nerfed (thus know 100% what the role does) to people who created roles that did (thus can't know what the role does)?
Yeah I already said I used none of those abilities/items last night, which I think is the reason I didn't gain any items to use today.
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On June 27 2013 04:45 geript wrote: Please tell us wtf it does. Did it protect Kita from getting shot? He says he didn't use anything but couldn't he have 'bus-driven' or whatever DI and kita?
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On June 27 2013 04:44 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 04:43 Crossfire99 wrote:On June 27 2013 04:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Or is it part of the role? Might as well not hide it anymore, but the TARDIS is basically sk8r's role. There was a small change to his role which makes things a lot clearer now, which I didn't learn about until today because stuff wasn't making sense. Why did you learn it today and not before? Because I didn't ask about it until today. When kita said he received the TARDIS today, things weren't adding up with the way I designed the role, so I asked. Dec then answered.
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EBWOP: Quote the wrong post.
On June 27 2013 04:45 Crossfire99 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 04:42 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 27 2013 04:40 Crossfire99 wrote:On June 27 2013 04:38 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 27 2013 04:36 Crossfire99 wrote: Sorry for disappearing, I've been really busy. I'm here now until lynch. Gonzaw you're right that I have your role, but I didn't use any abilities last night because I didn't want to waste anything when I wasn't sure about people. I didn't get any new abilities, maybe because I didn't use anything last night T_T.
I'm not liking sk8r too much anymore. He already answered what questions I wanted to ask, but didn't get a chance to. Basically, I still don't understand why he gave the TARDIS to the people he supposedly gave it to. Why solstice and why kita? Wan't there a specific way gonzaw asked you to confirm it? Uh, idk. Did he? I can confirm I have it though. I already breadcrumbed it earlier to him, which I think he picked up on. On June 27 2013 03:34 gonzaw wrote: Well, I might as well reveal what mine does. I won't reveal the "juicy bits", but effectively, ma niggah last night could do one of the following:
1)Protect himself of 1 KP 2)Busdrive 2 dudes 3)RB a dude I presume he used (1) since nobody claimed RBed or funny stuff
Also, right now he has one of 2 new abilities, which if he's scum then we are in bad hands as well :/ I'll wait until he claims what ability he got (he can only know one of them, can't know both) so he doesn't lie or something.
At least this is if the role didn't get nerfed so I have no idea.
deconduo, if you nerfed a role, did you tell the role creator about the nerf? You know, considering it'd be kind of "unfair", benefiting the people who created roles that WERENT nerfed (thus know 100% what the role does) to people who created roles that did (thus can't know what the role does)? Yeah I already said I used none of those abilities/items last night, which I think is the reason I didn't gain any items to use today. He says he didn't use anything but couldn't he have 'bus-driven' or whatever DI and kita?
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On June 27 2013 04:47 Crossfire99 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 04:44 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On June 27 2013 04:43 Crossfire99 wrote:On June 27 2013 04:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Or is it part of the role? Might as well not hide it anymore, but the TARDIS is basically sk8r's role. There was a small change to his role which makes things a lot clearer now, which I didn't learn about until today because stuff wasn't making sense. Why did you learn it today and not before? Because I didn't ask about it until today. When kita said he received the TARDIS today, things weren't adding up with the way I designed the role, so I asked. Dec then answered.
Then how specifically is the Tardis passed. IE what is required to pass it, and how frequently can you do this?
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Xfire you say you suspect sk8r. WHy are you not voting him to help consolidate so we don't no-lynch?
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Conspiracy Theory Time!
Sk8 Xatalos Xfire
austin being town (or 3p) in this case. Sk8 does shit all until deadline and sheeps on the popular vote on a townie (Zepphird or snb). Xatalos goes against solstice Xfire joins the fight against soltice with a ninja-sheep-vote. solstice dies to a shot from another 3P maybe (maybe kita lol) Alternatively, they shoot solstice because their role allows them to somehow, and then they laugh as votes pile onto austin. SK8 and MZ don't vote austin for...some reason? Maybe they were indeed inactive (if the shot was 3P it would make sense, solstice/Zeph is getting misslynched so why the hell bother being at the deadline?)
After that austin mislynch ALMOST goes through, but is 1 vote short (saved by superheroe of the day geript maybe? If austin is town then he surely is lol).
After that, Xatalos goes on full austin-scum tunnel-mode, doesn't really talk much about other people, specially not sk8 and Xfire from what I remember Xfire does shit all as expected. Sk8 does shit all as expected (but why would they do otherwise? Other than BC nobody really even pressured them enough to do so).
Remember this?:
On June 24 2013 06:31 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 06:28 Kurumi wrote:On June 24 2013 06:26 gonzaw wrote:On June 24 2013 06:23 Kurumi wrote:On June 24 2013 06:20 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote: Also, I know I said I could prove that he is town, it's NOT because he masoned me. Why could you only confirm him and not anyone else? That baffles me. It seems that you knew he was town all along. Why do you keep tunneling sk8 kurumi (specially with stuff like that you just posted)? Meapak why do you "tunneled" zepphird then come back after the "lynch" to complain? He defends himself based on the role he has. I ain't believin' a guy who's hiding behind a mask. I was the only one that didn't want to lynch Solstice. He flipped town, and now you still want to continue tunnelling me. Since he's dead I have no reason to reveal any information to you. Why are you trying to figure out my role so much? I didn't vote Solstice and I didn't vote Austin for the same reason, I think scum were directing the lynch.
On June 24 2013 06:54 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 06:43 Xatalos wrote:On June 24 2013 06:31 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:On June 24 2013 06:28 Kurumi wrote:On June 24 2013 06:26 gonzaw wrote:On June 24 2013 06:23 Kurumi wrote:On June 24 2013 06:20 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote: Also, I know I said I could prove that he is town, it's NOT because he masoned me. Why could you only confirm him and not anyone else? That baffles me. It seems that you knew he was town all along. Why do you keep tunneling sk8 kurumi (specially with stuff like that you just posted)? Meapak why do you "tunneled" zepphird then come back after the "lynch" to complain? He defends himself based on the role he has. I ain't believin' a guy who's hiding behind a mask. I was the only one that didn't want to lynch Solstice. He flipped town, and now you still want to continue tunnelling me. Since he's dead I have no reason to reveal any information to you. Why are you trying to figure out my role so much? I didn't vote Solstice and I didn't vote Austin for the same reason, I think scum were directing the lynch. Lol, that's a pretty lackluster reason I must say...... Why would scum want austinmcc dead when he was A) scum or at least B) otherwise harmful to town and a good lynch candidate for D2? It just makes no sense for scum to rush in and vote for austinmcc. And it didn't even go that well, which proves that scum didn't want it. So austinmcc is either scum or scum otherwise want him alive. Possibly. Except you could use the same argument against Solstice, and Solstice was the original lynch target and flipped a blue. If you follow the votes, players who were on both the Solstice lynch and Austin lynch were Solstice lynch train - Xatalos, WoS, Zephirdd, kitaman, gonzaw, Crossfire99, geript, Dandel Ion Austin lynch train - Zephirdd, Dandel Ion, Xatalos, kitaman, Crossfire99, gonzaw, Kurumi Zephird, Xatalos, Dandel Ion, Kitaman, Xfire were on both the Solstice and the Austin lynch.
Now, why would scum Sk8 not push this idea further and completely forget about it? Oh...wait, 2 out of 5 are part of his scumteam? I guess it DOES make sense for him to not push it further then.
Then what happens? + Show Spoiler +On June 24 2013 23:43 Acrofales wrote:Why'd everybody go quiet? Anyway, lets kill Xatalos. Will make a case, but it basically boils down to him not taking a stance on ANYTHING and circumventing every issue with lots of waffle. I had my suspicions of his thread entry, then he lulled me into a false sense of security with his later day posting, and now it just came roaring back with this string of gems: Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 18:24 Xatalos wrote:On June 24 2013 10:09 austinmcc wrote: BC, are you around? If so, you want a present or want your choice to get? Time is limited before presents go in the mail, but will ship it along if I don't hear from you.
NOW ONTO MORE IMPORTANT MATTERS
JEEBUS STOP LYNCHING ME.
If you think you can usually read me and you haven't been able to do so this game, that might be because I'm not normally this absent. As EITHER alignment. Go read my stupid scum games, I'm always trying to plot and direct things and getting shot down when I try to get the scum team to engage in stupid plans, except for CT mafia maybe cuz I replaced in there.
To those who actually think I'm scummy, you guys should knock it off as well. I don't bring presents to people who think I'm scummy except maybe I do. Ugh. Also, not scum.
Gonna sort through the rest of this tomorrow at work. I agree that I've never seen you this absent before. That's not all though. I associate a heavy townish atmosphere with your name (from earlier memories), and I haven't got such a feeling from any of your posts so far. I don't think you were all that active before either, but you looked townish (analytical/helpful/insightful) with your posts. Where's that in this game? Please start playing like town if you actually ARE town. Otherwise your life expectancy isn't looking too good. Translation: I want to call you scum, but don't really want to, but you normally look townie but aren't this time, although you did look townie earlier. So you might die. HUH? If Xata is town, I see absolutely no reason to post this "stream of consciousness". Make up your mind, THEN post. This just feels like a non-post from scum where it seems he's actively contributing with his thought process, but really isn't. This verbal diarrhoea makes me feel slightly better about austin, btw. Next: Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 19:54 Xatalos wrote:On June 24 2013 19:20 Dandel Ion wrote:On June 24 2013 14:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Why are people suspicious of Austin? He is actively saying who he is targetting with his role in thread. Mafia has no reason to do this whatsoever. -_- On June 24 2013 14:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Roles do not equal fucking alignment. I do not know how many times I have to say this in every bloody ptp / pyp games. LOL hahahaha... Good point.. Maybe I should reconsider my townread on BC after all. This heavy bias and inconsistent attitudes towards players sadly doesn't radiate townishness Being AFK for the pre-lynch hour(s) doesn't make me feel any better either. BC town -> null. If I use big words nobody will notice that I am waffling nonsense!!!More stream-of-conscience stuff, but this time with a high dose of stupid. BC isn't contradicting himself here, although DI is an amusing troll. BC is angry at people thinking that having some role means something alignment wise. He says that the WAY austin is USING his role is townie. I disagree, but BC isn't contradicting himself, and if Xata was actually thinking at the same level as he is being verbose, he would realize this. Instead, it's a scum grabbing a cheap opportunity to discredit BC (who is probably town). Onwards and upwards! Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 20:11 Xatalos wrote:On June 24 2013 06:46 WaveofShadow wrote: I am tres sad Solstice wasn't scum. My tryhard pants must have holes in them or something.
Hey Kurumi. Since you like bluefishing so much, let's talk about roles. Solstice can come back to the thread anytime he likes, correct? Is there a point in waiting until later in the game to do so?
Also I know who wrote my role. :D That's a pretty happy tone in your post after mislynch, isn't it..? Well, however that may be, more importantly could you share your top scumreads sooner rather than later? You jumped on s0Lstice so easily (basically with only a meta-reason which didn't appear until AFTER you had already voted....) so right now you appear scummier than before I switched from you to s0Lstice. There are still few townish posts in your filter that make me reconsider, but it's not too hard for scum to do towny things once in a while. So do you have anything original, genuine that you want to push tomorrow? Or is it going to be filler posts -> join some bandwagon again? We didn't mislynch. We no lynched, and s0lstice got shot by you or your cohorts. But that aside. LOOK AT THE BOLDED PART! Xata has been pretty damned inconsistent about WoS, but he seems to have a scumread on him from the start of D1 (and never actually bothers to try and push him, but that aside). Now what do you do to potential scum? You pressure them, you push them. You poke them, and you prod them. Unless, of course, you're scum yourself. Then you ask if they would please oblige you by maybe posting their reads? But not in any hurry, mind you. Also, great example of the pot calling the kettle black, with regards to shoddy reasons for jumping on the s0lstice case.
In closing: lets kill Xatalos
Oh snap! So what happens next?
On June 25 2013 06:04 deconduo wrote: Acrofales, Winston Churchill met a grisly end.
Oh.....I wonder why?
Jumpstart to D2: Xatalos still tunnels austin, is wishy-washy as fuck about kita and sk8, but most importantly sk8 (read that post above in my previous post). Sk8 does shit...oh wait he NINJA-VOTES THE GUY HE THOUGHT SCUM GANGED UP ON. Seems like town sentiment is against austin, he's getting the "noob town" cred so he's free to do whatever he does Sk8 then lies about other shit, gives confusing info about Tardis (all game long. Most of it is right, but he purposefully makes it confusing so he can go posts and posts and posts confusing us more and appear active). He LIES ABOUT MY ROLE BEING NERFED. THE HOST FUCKING CONFIRMED IT (I'll expand on this if I can post my role PM). Here: READ THIS SHIT I THINK ITS DAMNING AS FUCK
On June 25 2013 11:36 gonzaw wrote: How about straight up stating the role?
If I get lynched a random dude that voted me dies But here's the best part, each night I can visit someone and he gains the same ability (after I visit him, if he gets lynched a random dude that voted for him dies).
I have no use for it and there is no use in hiding it from scum or whatever because I'll never use it, so let's just get it over with (hopefully obs qt guys have pity on me or something)
On June 26 2013 12:50 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:dont be all upset cause the role I wrote for u got nerfed. I could post the original I wrote for you. It was jester veteran lookout but the lookout gives u numbers with alignment instead of names, cuz that would just be OP. and then u can use your second ability to remove the jester ability from people based on the number u received. i.e. When activatd 1 visted u, they are MAFIA 2 visted u, they are town so basically u could confirm players that visitedd u BUT u dont know who visited u and then become jesters. I guess it got nerfed though since apparently u say it blos. I thot it was pretty balanced
On June 27 2013 03:43 deconduo wrote: Some roles may have been altered slightly for whatever reasons, but nothing big or significant was changed. Pretty much everyone was given word for word the role PM we received.
Xfire continues not doing shit, even going as far as asking random shit like "oh what's going on I'm confused".
Veredict: Well, It did start as a conspiracy theory but the more I wrote about it the more I convince myself of it lolol That's most likely confirmation bias either way though, but there's stuff here to really make you think and re-think this lynch. Also, if Xata/Xfire are scum we can try to understand this on N2 as well.
To be honest, the one LESS likely to be scum of the trio is Xfire. Maybe you can replace him with snb...but I dunno Xfire seems to "fit" more than snb, but snb should die soon so it's not like it matters (if snb flips town put Xfire back into the trio)
austin, you have the tin-foil hat, so you speculate about this shit
This should make good discussion shit.
Also I a skimmed Xata's scum game in GoT and I guess I can see him playing like that here. No thorough reading though. Have little time to read him properly, will do so after sk8 hopefully dies and after I come back from uni
This is your time to shine Town! Show me what you got!
Please kill sk8! Unless you want a super-gambit and kill Xata now or something (although I haven't really read his filter properly yet to make a precise read on him)
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On June 27 2013 04:46 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 04:45 geript wrote: Please tell us wtf it does. Did it protect Kita from getting shot? He says he didn't use anything but couldn't he have 'bus-driven' or whatever DI and kita? That's what I'm thinking he did. He could have protected himself or bus driven himself with someone else. I don't know why he wouldn't just protect himself unless he's scum, but that would be too obvious because we know he has the TARDIS, and he told us what it did. Hmmmm. Now I'm thinking kita might have been set up unless he just went crazy and did something stupid as scum.
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EBWOP:
I forgot the "scum Xfire saves scum sk8 from being getting ganged up on on D1 by claiming he made his role, but then makes 0 attempts to explain the stuff sk8 did or said and never discloses ANY info whatsoever about his role" part, silly me
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On June 27 2013 04:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote: WHY ARE PEOPLE TRYING TO LYNCH AUSTIN.
If he is mafia he is actively giving powers to people in the fucking town. Let him continue doing so.
This is also I'm kind of worried about lynching austin. Similar to the "Kurumi is making super-townies inventors" trail of thought (lol if both are scum and using the same tactic to gain eazy town cred)
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On June 27 2013 04:51 Crossfire99 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 04:46 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 27 2013 04:45 geript wrote: Please tell us wtf it does. Did it protect Kita from getting shot? He says he didn't use anything but couldn't he have 'bus-driven' or whatever DI and kita? That's what I'm thinking he did. He could have protected himself or bus driven himself with someone else. I don't know why he wouldn't just protect himself unless he's scum, but that would be too obvious because we know he has the TARDIS, and he told us what it did. Hmmmm. Now I'm thinking kita might have been set up unless he just went crazy and did something stupid as scum. Aren't you the one with the bus driver role? I was talking about you.
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Xfire you are either lying or deconduo fucked up/nerfed the role
You SHOULD have gotten a PM this D2, and you SHOULD have PMed the host back to gain a new ability. What ability you used or didn't use last night don't matter at all.
Also, please tell me this: What option did you choose last night, (1) or (2)?
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On June 27 2013 04:48 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 04:47 Crossfire99 wrote:On June 27 2013 04:44 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On June 27 2013 04:43 Crossfire99 wrote:On June 27 2013 04:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Or is it part of the role? Might as well not hide it anymore, but the TARDIS is basically sk8r's role. There was a small change to his role which makes things a lot clearer now, which I didn't learn about until today because stuff wasn't making sense. Why did you learn it today and not before? Because I didn't ask about it until today. When kita said he received the TARDIS today, things weren't adding up with the way I designed the role, so I asked. Dec then answered. Then how specifically is the Tardis passed. IE what is required to pass it, and how frequently can you do this? You pass it when you use it and the new person receives it at the beginning of the next phase (eg. use it during the day, someone gets it at night), and then can be used immediately, so if Kita used the TARDIS which he had to have to not be dead right now, someone is getting the TARDIS at night tonight.
This whole passing thing is what changed, so that's why I was confused.
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Answer the question NOW Xfire.
What option did you choose last night, (1) or (2)?
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On June 27 2013 04:59 Crossfire99 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 04:48 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On June 27 2013 04:47 Crossfire99 wrote:On June 27 2013 04:44 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On June 27 2013 04:43 Crossfire99 wrote:On June 27 2013 04:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Or is it part of the role? Might as well not hide it anymore, but the TARDIS is basically sk8r's role. There was a small change to his role which makes things a lot clearer now, which I didn't learn about until today because stuff wasn't making sense. Why did you learn it today and not before? Because I didn't ask about it until today. When kita said he received the TARDIS today, things weren't adding up with the way I designed the role, so I asked. Dec then answered. Then how specifically is the Tardis passed. IE what is required to pass it, and how frequently can you do this? You pass it when you use it and the new person receives it at the beginning of the next phase (eg. use it during the day, someone gets it at night), and then can be used immediately, so if Kita used the TARDIS which he had to have to not be dead right now, someone is getting the TARDIS at night tonight. This whole passing thing is what changed, so that's why I was confused. If this is true then skater could not have passed the TARDIS to solstice during D1?
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