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iamperfection
United States9634 Posts
Signs point to a town marv at this moment he should be protected. | ||
Blazinghand
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On May 21 2013 04:01 Blazinghand wrote: Actually VA I have a question for you if you have a moment. Initially during D1 you had a town->null read on GK. Eventually this evolved into a scumread after GK said he didn't check his role PM. Since then you've been pushing for his lynch. Aside from the role PM shenannies, why do you think GK is scum? What has changed about your initial scumreads on stutters, WoS, and s0lstice that they are not your main pushes (just DI and GK)? I know you've kept the pressure up on s0lstice a little but since changing your vote to GK during D1 you have not mentioned sutters or s0lstice. Where do you stand on them? basically I revised my scum based on this first day from stutters/solstice/WoS/DL to GK/solstice/WoS/DL. I will post why in a second, long post incoming | ||
raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
On May 21 2013 03:57 iamperfection wrote: if there's anyone who wouldn't take more pleasure in lynching a scum marv it would be me. Dandel would love doing bh would love doing it. Signs point to a town marv at this moment he should be protected. There is noone in thread that can't possibly be scum other than yamato for me. And i remember Dandel's retarded comments from Red where he stated that marv can't be lynched on D1 so it's not worth looking into him. So no, i don't think Dandel would lynch marv. Dunno about you and BH. You however have a point in marv/BH mason thing (i guess you are referring to that?). Assuming BH is scum marv would be valuable as town, but still.. yamato is the towniest guy in thread. | ||
VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
s0lstice: posted my reads on him a lot, just filter me WoS: Do not like how he is constantly going against what the popular opinion is and is too sure of things happening before they actually happen. My worst scrumread of the 4 but he intrigues me...also a lot of fluff posts. DL: never played with him before but im taking vets word on it that hes playing scummy and hes been pretty useless so far. even if he doesnt flip red I dont see why he would be useful to keep around. Maybe vig him instead of lynch is a better option. Why I retracted on stutters: At first I thought he was extremely suspicious for immediately wanting to jump on the first bandwagon of the day but then I realized that I doubt mafia would do it so early. As I said later in the day, we have to watch out for the people that bandwagon at the end, not at the beginning. He seems like just another sputnik to me, a low activity poster thats easy bait to mislynch. Waiting to see more from him. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On May 21 2013 04:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: There is noone in thread that can't possibly be scum other than yamato for me. And i remember Dandel's retarded comments from Red where he stated that marv can't be lynched on D1 so it's not worth looking into him. So no, i don't think Dandel would lynch marv. Dunno about you and BH. You however have a point in marv/BH mason thing (i guess you are referring to that?). Assuming BH is scum marv would be valuable as town, but still.. yamato is the towniest guy in thread. so you made a completely baseless assertion? excellent. | ||
iamperfection
United States9634 Posts
On May 21 2013 04:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: There is noone in thread that can't possibly be scum other than yamato for me. And i remember Dandel's retarded comments from Red where he stated that marv can't be lynched on D1 so it's not worth looking into him. So no, i don't think Dandel would lynch marv. Dunno about you and BH. You however have a point in marv/BH mason thing (i guess you are referring to that?). Assuming BH is scum marv would be valuable as town, but still.. yamato is the towniest guy in thread. i believe marv is town therefore he should be protected there is no need to complicate it further. yamotos "townieness" has nothing to do with it. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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Blazinghand
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s0Lstice
United States1832 Posts
On May 21 2013 04:10 VayneAuthority wrote: GK: initially had a null read on him as he was causing discussion and pressuring people...then he makes that "didnt look at my role PM" post which is super scummy to me so I stop and look back at his filter. all he has been doing all game is pressuring lurkers trying to get one of them lynched. Some might say this is good play to get rid of the "trash" or whatever but to me its just an excuse to mislynch. I hate his filter. s0lstice: posted my reads on him a lot, just filter me WoS: Do not like how he is constantly going against what the popular opinion is and is too sure of things happening before they actually happen. My worst scrumread of the 4 but he intrigues me...also a lot of fluff posts. DL: never played with him before but im taking vets word on it that hes playing scummy and hes been pretty useless so far. even if he doesnt flip red I dont see why he would be useful to keep around. Maybe vig him instead of lynch is a better option. Why I retracted on stutters: At first I thought he was extremely suspicious for immediately wanting to jump on the first bandwagon of the day but then I realized that I doubt mafia would do it so early. As I said later in the day, we have to watch out for the people that bandwagon at the end, not at the beginning. He seems like just another sputnik to me, a low activity poster thats easy bait to mislynch. Waiting to see more from him. The bolded is actually a town tell. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On May 21 2013 00:30 JarJarDrinks wrote: Was leaning scum. I wasn't crazy about how he misread my meta or how he was so quick to believe BHs claim. Not sure why he thinks he was "the towniest motherfucker in the game" and then, and this is important, he decides that he's going to write a case against DP (link) when the easiest thing in the world is to say "yeah, DP is town look how he caught BH". This is not the move of a scum player, imo. A scum player has every incentive to give DP a townread, ESPECIALLY a scum player who has butted heads with DP already and now sees DP going after someone that said player targeted during D1. Why not say something like "ah, looks like you had some good in you after all DP! Yes, you are definitively town"? Why, as a low-activity inexperienced player, pick a fight with DP when it's pretty clear that BH is on the chopping block the next day? I don't see scum taking a huge unnecessary risk like that. I can see a town player doing it, though, if he really does think DP is scum. I can see him doing it even though it's a dumb idea, because he wants to do what's right and push his scumreads. JJD could be scum emulating a town player who does that-- but I don't think he is. I think he's town. | ||
(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
Here's his 2nd post in the game here, which I'll spoiler: + Show Spoiler + On May 18 2013 06:47 goodkarma wrote: I feel that Stutters's play so far has been scummy. First, he completely contradicts himself about his thoughts on meta: So he doesn't feel meta's important here. But: When it comes to excusing his lurky play, it matters. Also, I found this to be scummy: In other words, he's ready to sheep onto a Vayne lynch bandwaggon if it gains momentum. But he doesn't want to draw atttention to himself by putting down a vote. #Vote: Stutters I look forward to Stutters's response. If it is to be believed he's sometimes useful as town, then that's another scumtell as he's been nothing but useless thus far. Here's a couple of things he said in The Game. On March 17 2013 05:31 goodkarma wrote: @Mr. Wiggles: Sowy, but I'm not giving you any scumreads until I'm ready to. You claim I haven't been scumhunting, but if you were to look at my posting so far I have: 1) Worked towards establishing a pro-town atmosphere, a reasonable early goal 2) Been pushing others for reads to get a better understanding of their motives and thought process, which is very important to getting scumreads As far as cases go, which aren't the only component of scumhunting: As I said, when I'm ready. And I promise you it will be long before the end of the day. But what I'd recommend you to do right now is to focus some of your energies on getting others to participate (not everyone has even posted yet!), and pursue some of your other scumreads. Because tunneling one read, and going into lurker mode thereafter is in itself pretty scummy... On March 17 2013 09:15 goodkarma wrote: I will be presenting my own case before the evening's done, so everyone has a solid 24ish hours to look at it. But I typically don't like to jump into cases as quickly as some here. Call that scummy if you want, but it's my playstyle. Highlights in bold and red are mine. The bolds are self-explanatory, and I bolded the red to explain it slightly - goodkarma is saying in this passage that it's important to push people for their motivations and thought processes, and thinks it's very important. Here he makes an early case on Stutters (despite saying last town-game he doesn't make early cases) and he never talked to him first about his thought processes. I would note at the end of his post in this thread he says "I look forward to Stutters response". But if we're to take his posts in The Game at face value, goodkarma likes to play by getting responses FIRST, voting LATER. | ||
WaveofShadow
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
On May 21 2013 04:27 Blazinghand wrote: Well, I am beginning to think JJD is town. I say this despite having pushed for his lynch yesterday because of his two most recent posts. He came into the thread to try to take credit for me seeming scummy, which isn't really a town move, but he said two things that I don't think he'd say as scum. First, he cops to his initial scumread on DP and then, and this is important, he decides that he's going to write a case against DP (link) when the easiest thing in the world is to say "yeah, DP is town look how he caught BH". This is not the move of a scum player, imo. A scum player has every incentive to give DP a townread, ESPECIALLY a scum player who has butted heads with DP already and now sees DP going after someone that said player targeted during D1. Why not say something like "ah, looks like you had some good in you after all DP! Yes, you are definitively town"? Why, as a low-activity inexperienced player, pick a fight with DP when it's pretty clear that BH is on the chopping block the next day? I don't see scum taking a huge unnecessary risk like that. I can see a town player doing it, though, if he really does think DP is scum. I can see him doing it even though it's a dumb idea, because he wants to do what's right and push his scumreads. JJD could be scum emulating a town player who does that-- but I don't think he is. I think he's town. I don't think the bolded part is necessarily true. And i don't know how you think it's true. If JJD is scum and assumes you are lynched tomorrow, why would he not find DP suspicious now? Why did you not think of the possibility that JJD is looking for a day 3 target already as you should see this if you are town? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On May 21 2013 04:47 WaveofShadow wrote: Marv what would you suggest we do about GK if it seems BH is still mainly on the block tomorrow? Do you think its worth waiting some more to see what he comes up with or is he vig fodder? I don't think he's done anything since before the shitstorm with BH last night. I dunno. I think GK is mafia now though. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
I have been doing stuff other the weekend. I was thinking GK was scum now marv just made a case on him. So I'll vote for him tomorrow. | ||
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