EPTOn May 18 2013 00:25 fferyllt wrote:
Your observation about me looks like bullshit.
Your observation about me looks like bullshit.
Zephirdd, can you please explain why you think fferyllt looks better than on D1?
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
Zephirdd, can you please explain why you think fferyllt looks better than on D1? | ||
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
Besides talking setup, he makes one half-assed analysis post on vivax and sentinel, then votes vivax without explaining why he actually prefers him over Sentinel. His vote stays there, he goes missing until after the deadline and then congratulates himself for voting scum. D2, some town reads and one analysis on Sharrant. Now, that analysis is actually ok, and helps looking over the fact that ghost does not look very townie at all for everything else. So, for now, he gets a pass because he made a decent analysis on the guy that I'm instead going to vote. I also read Zephirdd's case on Sharrant and then took the time to take a look at Sharrant's filter in another game. What stands out is that he is actively asking questions there, trying to interact with people, which is all stuff I'm missing in this game. combined with what Zephirdd and ghost brought up, I'm gonna vote Sharrant. ##Vote: Sharrant I really hope to get some more content of ghost_403 and fferyllt. Weekend is here, and with this my activity will drop as always. I will try keep up with the thread trough the day, and I should be posting again before the deadline (although no promises, Switzerland is playing USA in the semi-finals tomorrow on the Ice Hockey World Championships, I might get drunk, specially when Switzerland is winning or losing). | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
On May 18 2013 05:42 phagga wrote: Zephirdd, can you please explain why you think fferyllt looks better than on D1? because others(sharrant for instance) look worse and because relative to the first 24 hours she has done a lot more been busy all day sorry for lack of content | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
Starting tomorrow however, I should have ample time to play mafia and accurately read the thread. | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
Look at his play day 1 and tell me he is a scum and not a town that could know his handle due to who-knows-what-power. Or even that he is not a town and the hosts may have fucked up. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
On May 18 2013 07:12 Zephirdd wrote: oh and btw, anyone still voting for oats is a fucking moron. Look at his play day 1 and tell me he is a scum and not a town that could know his handle due to who-knows-what-power. Or even that he is not a town and the hosts may have fucked up. I have no idea where this train of thought came from. What does his movement say about his alignment? My problem is, what I believe to be, his scumslip. His post clearly states that he meant to make the move that he made. You can believe that he is a townie, and force that upon your interpretation of his words. In that case, he simply stated that the moves performed on his piece were the ones he meant to make. But that's not what he said. The more straightforward way of interpreting his words is simply this: he knew which piece he was and meant to move from where he was to where he is. As far as I can tell, the only way he could have known that was if he rolled scum. His later actions is consistent with someone who outed themselves as scum. Either you shit up the thread, or you stop talking. I don't know his alignment. What I do know is this: the most straightforward way of interpreting "I wanted to move here." implies that he rolled scum. | ||
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
On May 16 2013 10:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: It's possible. Which means maybe yes, maybe no. If yes, then angels gain nothing and town gains something. If no, then the angels and town both gain something, but angels gain more because they can use the info to win whereas town only needs to coordinate. However, in the second scenario, townies are able to lie/stay silent to protect themselves. If my movement speed was 5, for instance, I could say I had 2-3 movespeed to attract nearby angels. I see something I'm not supposed to, I can use all 5 the next night and dart around like the wind. Again, assuming the angels know nothing. Really it's all chance. And I don't think it's worth a night experimenting with it. So I'm going to back away from this and agree to disagree. At the very least we will voice our movements before the deadline for clarity's sake. Anything else, like you said, is open to discussion. ##unvote Time for some thoughts on Ghost's recent post. I find a bunch of problems with this alone. Being alone while scumhunting makes my mafiadick hard. It means I can focus on what's already present in the thread with a clear mind, without having to worry about changing conditions. A lot of my reasoning goes out the window when the thread updates. I don't know why you'd have a problem with it and resort to lurking. Explain me why you vote for Vivax and not myself. That's a shitty vote to throw around. Game plan for myself is to organize my thoughts because that's what I'm lacking right now. I'm going to draft up another spreadsheet to consolidate my reads tomorrow and then start making calls from that. Why did I vote for Vivax and not for you? Boils down to my gut. My notes for Sentinel are this: "meh. disoriented, not scummy". Reading the thread, I got the impression that you were someone who was just trying to figure out what was going on. You weren't acting against the town, you were just confused. What exactly what it was that made me think that? I dunno. I doubt I could point to any collection of posts that would show you how I arrived at that conclusion. Vivax didn't give me that vibe. I pointed out my thoughts on him when I voted him. It seems passionate and poorly thought out. He's not trying to figure out Sentinel's alignment, or really thinking about what's going on; he's trying to push him onto the defensive and start an easy lynch. It kind of looks like he immediately dropped it, but it is kind of hard to tell at this point in the game. That's quite a bit different from the vibe that I was getting from you. | ||
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
On May 18 2013 09:14 Blazinghand wrote: sorry, balls air etc  What's that supposed to mean. | ||
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
Also, I would still be happy to lynch Sharrant as well. His (her? idk) last post was completely worthless. Scum like to talk about setup stuffs far past when it's appropriate because they can't actually scumhunt. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
I am waiting Oats' reactions coming this night(he is from singapore so he is always on bad timezones) and I'll read it carefully. While I'm away(friday!) I beg for town to ask as many questions about his play as possible, as well as his reads etc. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
I'm going to side with precedent here and recall that Vivax claimed to misunderstand the movement rules as well. This is why I will keep my vote on Oats and not switch to dec... yet. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
Friday nights man, busy stuff. Guys i dont think Sharrant is a good lynch, cause marv said so and sheeping dead confirmed townies is awesome. Also cause he has shown effort is his posting and its reads like he believes in this shit and is not lying. Now who is scum? Deconduo. What marv said which was, Hit and run case on Ghost. Mafia favored plan. What else that solidified my read on him was Look at the attutide here in this post, its an attitude of survival rather than lynching scum. He doesnt say its for consolidation, he says its 'better him than me'. Also his stance for Vivax 30 minutes before the vote is 'not d1 lynch'. What changed in those 30 minutes deconduo?. Keep in mind that Vivax flipped scum. Looks like an opportunistic vote to not stand out. [quote] I never said I was useless on day 1, just that I don't spontaneously offer reads straight off the bat. Your case was 50% meta which I showed to be invalid. The other half of the case was based on me suggesting a bad plan, which I gave a counterpoint to that you haven't responded to... [quote] The case was not 50% meta, it was behavior with a splash of meta thrown in. His defence to the bad plan was, I didnt think it through. Why would you just spout out a plan without thinking about it? Its more than likely that people will just ignore it and what discussion do you get out of that? No, it was activity for the sake of activity. [quote]Just popping in for a few minutes, looks like oats slipped hard. ##Vote Oatsmaster[/quote] Deconduo is thinking here, WOOHOO SCUMSLIP. YES. NO NEED TO 'FIND' A LYNCH. YEAH!!!. Then he disappears and comes back with [quote]I agree that oats' play day one wasn't particularly scummy. However that slip us way too blatant for us to ignore as a mistake. First of all oats would have to not read up on how the movement works,secondly the hosts would have to not inform him that he moved illegally and finally the hosts would have to willingly put his move through. If he is a blue that knows his position, why hasn't he at least soft claimed instead of disappearing off the face of the earth. [/quote] Dec is not taking into account other possibilities, he is tunneling me cause he cant find anyone else and 'scumslips' make it easy for scum to latch onto. Gotta go for now, be back in like an hour+ | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
Friday nights man, busy stuff. Guys i dont think Sharrant is a good lynch, cause marv said so and sheeping dead confirmed townies is awesome. Also cause he has shown effort is his posting and its reads like he believes in this shit and is not lying. Now who is scum? Deconduo. What marv said which was, Hit and run case on Ghost. Mafia favored plan. What else that solidified my read on him was Look at the attutide here in this post, its an attitude of survival rather than lynching scum. He doesnt say its for consolidation, he says its 'better him than me'. Also his stance for Vivax 30 minutes before the vote is 'not d1 lynch'. What changed in those 30 minutes deconduo?. Keep in mind that Vivax flipped scum. Looks like an opportunistic vote to not stand out. I never said I was useless on day 1, just that I don't spontaneously offer reads straight off the bat. Your case was 50% meta which I showed to be invalid. The other half of the case was based on me suggesting a bad plan, which I gave a counterpoint to that you haven't responded to... The case was not 50% meta, it was behavior with a splash of meta thrown in. His defence to the bad plan was, I didnt think it through. Why would you just spout out a plan without thinking about it? Its more than likely that people will just ignore it and what discussion do you get out of that? No, it was activity for the sake of activity. Just popping in for a few minutes, looks like oats slipped hard. ##Vote Oatsmaster Deconduo is thinking here, WOOHOO SCUMSLIP. YES. NO NEED TO 'FIND' A LYNCH. YEAH!!!. Then he disappears and comes back with I agree that oats' play day one wasn't particularly scummy. However that slip us way too blatant for us to ignore as a mistake. First of all oats would have to not read up on how the movement works,secondly the hosts would have to not inform him that he moved illegally and finally the hosts would have to willingly put his move through. If he is a blue that knows his position, why hasn't he at least soft claimed instead of disappearing off the face of the earth. Dec is not taking into account other possibilities, he is tunneling me cause he cant find anyone else and 'scumslips' make it easy for scum to latch onto. Gotta go for now, be back in like an hour+ | ||
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