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This is the question we all keep asking. TL is kind of weird. Some days it is an awesome place bringing us the best SC2 and Dota2 coverage. Other days, it is like a group of middle school girls saying: "Who retired? What did he win again? Why is is important? You want a news post because you think he is important? Well I didn't know that."
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On May 15 2013 02:10 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 02:01 neilp187 wrote:
Finally the guy is the biggest troll in the game. His atitude in game and towards other people was unacceptable. His unsportmanlike conduct was the worst. Leaving the game when you werent beat yet is a joke. I hate to sound rude and mean but it took evil genius long enouguh sheesh. Good luck in the future idra! Honestly, I think it should really be up to the player to decide when to leave. If you ever watch a chess tournament, players resign all the time in seemingly equal position when they know they are going to lose whatever happens. I remember Gregory Sherper resigning against Kramnik in a position where I couldn't even see a real threat.
Idra did make mistakes before by leaving a bit too fast though, some of the time I agree it's justified but some other times were rash decisions
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On May 15 2013 02:47 ROOTFayth wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 02:10 Biff The Understudy wrote:On May 15 2013 02:01 neilp187 wrote:
Finally the guy is the biggest troll in the game. His atitude in game and towards other people was unacceptable. His unsportmanlike conduct was the worst. Leaving the game when you werent beat yet is a joke. I hate to sound rude and mean but it took evil genius long enouguh sheesh. Good luck in the future idra! Honestly, I think it should really be up to the player to decide when to leave. If you ever watch a chess tournament, players resign all the time in seemingly equal position when they know they are going to lose whatever happens. I remember Gregory Sherper resigning against Kramnik in a position where I couldn't even see a real threat. Idra did make mistakes before by leaving a bit too fast though, some of the time I agree it's justified but some other times were rash decisions
Even if it's a bad decision, it's his loss. And it's his right to take it.
It happens also that a chess player resigns and then it is discovered it was a bad decision because there were drawing or even winning chances.. Then you think "Oh bad luck to him" instead of having this ridiculous shitstorm from angry fans.
It's not like it's any good for him to lose.
I never liked Idra's attitude, and if anything, he has really hurted himself as a player with his immaturity. I remember that back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat because he was always blaming some cheese or inbalance, which ended up in him being eternally mediocre (just remember how his games against F91; a more mature player would have learnt a lot from the match, he didn't learnt jack shit. He just came up with a childish rant).
However, the decision to quit a game early is really not something I would blame him for. In his interview he gave extremely good and detailed reasons why he thought the game was lost. In that case in a BOX, it's better to give up and concentrate on next game rather than suffering for half an hour while your opponent triomphs and put yourself in a harder spot for next game...
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its funny how people sluff off that EG and/or Idra may have orchestrated this thing.
if the brood war betting scandal is possible then Idra and EG coming out with a "dramatic way" for him to leave EG so that it elevates the profile of both the player and organization has the same motive: money.
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iNcontroL
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On May 15 2013 05:35 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
its funny how people sluff off that EG and/or Idra may have orchestrated this thing.
if the brood war betting scandal is possible then Idra and EG coming out with a "dramatic way" for him to leave EG so that it elevates the profile of both the player and organization has the same motive: money.
I ignored it the first time because you are a horrible fucking poster that tries and stir up drama/controversy on a regular basis so I figured once you gave it a shot and literally everyone who replied just shat on you you would stfu.
But instead you posted again arrogantly remarking that you figured it out and everyone else is dumb.
IdrA is my friend. When I genuinely found out on that show I needed a minute to go cry and I don't even fucking know why. I just felt like it. Several members that I won't name of my management have been getting drunk to try and numb the pain as we fired one of our family members.
I am going to ask that you stop being a shit poster for like, 5 days maybe. Just give it some more time before you act like a complete douchebag.
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On May 15 2013 05:35 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
its funny how people sluff off that EG and/or Idra may have orchestrated this thing.
if the brood war betting scandal is possible then Idra and EG coming out with a "dramatic way" for him to leave EG so that it elevates the profile of both the player and organization has the same motive: money.
Not to mention that IDRA is still repping both astro headphones and steelseries mice on his stream....
YEAH, Im sure EG 'paying' idra's rent has NOTHING to do with that fact lololol
User was temp banned for this post.
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iNcontroL
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On May 15 2013 05:41 stratmatt wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 05:35 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
its funny how people sluff off that EG and/or Idra may have orchestrated this thing.
if the brood war betting scandal is possible then Idra and EG coming out with a "dramatic way" for him to leave EG so that it elevates the profile of both the player and organization has the same motive: money. Not to mention that IDRA is still repping both astro headphones and steelseries mice on his stream.... YEAH, Im sure EG 'paying' idra's rent has NOTHING to do with that fact lololol
He owns those peripherals. Why would he go out and buy new ones?
wtf is wrong with you?
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On May 15 2013 05:41 stratmatt wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 05:35 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
its funny how people sluff off that EG and/or Idra may have orchestrated this thing.
if the brood war betting scandal is possible then Idra and EG coming out with a "dramatic way" for him to leave EG so that it elevates the profile of both the player and organization has the same motive: money. Not to mention that IDRA is still repping both astro headphones and steelseries mice on his stream.... YEAH, Im sure EG 'paying' idra's rent has NOTHING to do with that fact lololol
Why buy another product when what you have works/you're used to it/you like it?
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On May 15 2013 05:41 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 05:35 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
its funny how people sluff off that EG and/or Idra may have orchestrated this thing.
if the brood war betting scandal is possible then Idra and EG coming out with a "dramatic way" for him to leave EG so that it elevates the profile of both the player and organization has the same motive: money. I ignored it the first time because you are a horrible fucking poster that tries and stir up drama/controversy on a regular basis so I figured once you gave it a shot and literally everyone who replied just shat on you you would stfu. But instead you posted again arrogantly remarking that you figured it out and everyone else is dumb. IdrA is my friend. When I genuinely found out on that show I needed a minute to go cry and I don't even fucking know why. I just felt like it. Several members that I won't name of my management have been getting drunk to try and numb the pain as we fired one of our family members. I am going to ask that you stop being a shit poster for like, 5 days maybe. Just give it some more time before you act like a complete douchebag.
Rather decent slapdown there Inc, WP.
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I'm starting to believe this thread will never go away.
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On May 15 2013 05:35 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
its funny how people sluff off that EG and/or Idra may have orchestrated this thing.
if the brood war betting scandal is possible then Idra and EG coming out with a "dramatic way" for him to leave EG so that it elevates the profile of both the player and organization has the same motive: money.
Jimmy, people ignoring it because you said it and you didn't check your facts. You claimed that Idra made the comments after he lost WCS, which isn't what happened. Also, all your previous theories have been really dumb. I cite the thread below as evidence:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=387294
Stop being shocked that people don't take you seriously when you can't even be bothered to look up the order that things took place in, or research on Liquipedia.
Edit: Ok, Incontrol brought it much harder than I did. But I second his opinion that you should use all your brain cells before posting your crazy theories.
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On May 15 2013 05:35 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
its funny how people sluff off that EG and/or Idra may have orchestrated this thing.
if the brood war betting scandal is possible then Idra and EG coming out with a "dramatic way" for him to leave EG so that it elevates the profile of both the player and organization has the same motive: money.
If the brood war betting scandal is possible, then what ISN'T possible?
I think it's much more likely that the blame lies with Kim Jong-Un. He got BMed by Idra while practicing on the Korean ladder and has been out to destroy him ever since.
I mean, you would agree that such a thing is POSSIBLE, right?
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We're used to his antics in the NHL thread. Just don't bother with it.
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IdrA will shine more as caster/content provider than a player, so I like this.
I don't remember much from the old GSL days, but IdrA casting was one of the things I remember.
As a (master) player it is incredible to hear him analyze a game or predict strategies.
I hope you get invites to all tournaments IdrA.
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+ Show Spoiler +On May 15 2013 05:41 iNcontroL wrote:
I ignored it the first time because you are a horrible fucking poster that tries and stir up drama/controversy on a regular basis so I figured once you gave it a shot and literally everyone who replied just shat on you you would stfu.
But instead you posted again arrogantly remarking that you figured it out and everyone else is dumb.
IdrA is my friend. When I genuinely found out on that show I needed a minute to go cry and I don't even fucking know why. I just felt like it. Several members that I won't name of my management have been getting drunk to try and numb the pain as we fired one of our family members.
I am going to ask that you stop being a shit poster for like, 5 days maybe. Just give it some more time before you act like a complete douchebag.
iNc, you gotta ignore these people. I'm fully behind you and your statements, but you can't feed the trolls, especially IdrA's trolls.
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On May 15 2013 05:44 StarStruck wrote:
I'm starting to believe this thread will never go away.
It's like a place of pilgrimage.
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On May 15 2013 05:48 StarStruck wrote:
We're used to his antics in the NHL thread. Just don't bother with it.
Idra has been quoted several times that the "drama" is what makes money... and that winning events is "at best tangentially related" ( his words not mine).
so with Idra himself stating that
1. I love money
2. drama makes money
3. treating the community like garbage is just "what i do".
to assume there is 100% certainty that EG and/or Idra are being totally honest in this matter is silly.
I "believe" in the truth of this event about as much as i "believe in" any random advertisement i see on television.
the end goal is just to make money.. whatever way possible.
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On May 15 2013 05:51 Homework wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 15 2013 05:41 iNcontroL wrote:
I ignored it the first time because you are a horrible fucking poster that tries and stir up drama/controversy on a regular basis so I figured once you gave it a shot and literally everyone who replied just shat on you you would stfu.
But instead you posted again arrogantly remarking that you figured it out and everyone else is dumb.
IdrA is my friend. When I genuinely found out on that show I needed a minute to go cry and I don't even fucking know why. I just felt like it. Several members that I won't name of my management have been getting drunk to try and numb the pain as we fired one of our family members.
I am going to ask that you stop being a shit poster for like, 5 days maybe. Just give it some more time before you act like a complete douchebag. iNc, you gotta ignore these people. I'm fully behind you and your statements, but you can't feed the trolls, especially IdrA's trolls.
The worst part about it is that because he got a response from iNcontroL, he's going to think his conspiracy is actually more valid because he got a response from 'THE MAN'. If his conspiracy wasn't close to being accurate EG would ignore him, but since he's so close to uncovering the truth, they sent out their PR guy to try and deflect the attention and squash the rumor! THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE!!!1!!
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On May 15 2013 05:41 stratmatt wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 05:35 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
its funny how people sluff off that EG and/or Idra may have orchestrated this thing.
if the brood war betting scandal is possible then Idra and EG coming out with a "dramatic way" for him to leave EG so that it elevates the profile of both the player and organization has the same motive: money. Not to mention that IDRA is still repping both astro headphones and steelseries mice on his stream.... YEAH, Im sure EG 'paying' idra's rent has NOTHING to do with that fact lololol
but if youre gonna accuse and call him out at least get it right. EG is sponsored by RAZER now, not steelseries. O boy why would idra just throw out all his perhipherals so he can buy new ones, when hes out of a job, guess everyone has limitless disposable income...
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On May 15 2013 06:01 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 05:48 StarStruck wrote:
We're used to his antics in the NHL thread. Just don't bother with it. Idra has been quoted several times that the "drama" is what makes money... and that winning events is "at best tangentially related" ( his words not mine). so with Idra himself stating that 1. I love money 2. drama makes money 3. treating the community like garbage is just "what i do". to assume there is 100% certainty that EG and/or Idra are being totally honest in this matter is silly. I "believe" in the truth of this event about as much as i "believe in" any random advertisement i see on television. the end goal is just to make money.. whatever way possible.
I believe your goal is to be a troll and whore the attention to yourself. As the great Nas once said, "You a dick-riding faggot, you love the attention."
/ignored
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