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Kiss of Judas
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Yergidy
United States2107 Posts
On May 01 2013 00:32 Shikyo wrote: I don't see how this is news-worthy(note I see how this is news-worthy but I should rather say, I don't understand why this is news-worthy. Hmmm ... or rather, this should not be news-worthy?) Anyway good for him. If he was a girl no one would care. I agree. I don't know why everyone is acting like this is something groundbreaking. People don't care if someone is gay or not anymore and i'm willing to bet gays don't even care if so and so comes out, they are fine with who they are and someone "famous" (I put this in quotes cuz I don't know who the fuck this guy is) isn't going to change anything. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On May 01 2013 01:19 Yergidy wrote: I agree. I don't know why everyone is acting like this is something groundbreaking. People don't care if someone is gay or not anymore and i'm willing to bet gays don't even care if so and so comes out, they are fine with who they are and someone "famous" (I put this in quotes cuz I don't know who the fuck this guy is) isn't going to change anything. Grey and red still ban same-sex marriage. Dark red bans same-sex civil unions as well. | ||
Klondikebar
United States2227 Posts
On May 01 2013 01:19 Yergidy wrote: I agree. I don't know why everyone is acting like this is something groundbreaking. People don't care if someone is gay or not anymore and i'm willing to bet gays don't even care if so and so comes out, they are fine with who they are and someone "famous" (I put this in quotes cuz I don't know who the fuck this guy is) isn't going to change anything. You really don't think people care if someone is gay or not? Tell that to every gay guy who gets shitty service at a restaurant or gets funny looks from people for holding hands with their partner. | ||
Yergidy
United States2107 Posts
On May 01 2013 01:25 Jibba wrote: Grey and red still ban same-sex marriage. Dark red bans same-sex civil unions as well. That is a whole different matter entirely. Just because someone doesn't agree with same sex marriage doesn't mean they are anti gay.... Most people are live and let live. Of course there are going to be some people who absolutely despise gays (I may make the assumption they may be gay themselves) but you always have some people who are in the fringes of the bell curve. On May 01 2013 01:26 Klondikebar wrote: You really don't think people care if someone is gay or not? Tell that to every gay guy who gets shitty service at a restaurant or gets funny looks from people for holding hands with their partner. People who let this bother them need to learn not to give a fuck about what some people think of them. Sure it happens sometimes, but I am willing to bet that it isn't the majority of the time. | ||
Focuspants
Canada780 Posts
On May 01 2013 01:30 Yergidy wrote: That is a whole different matter entirely. Just because someone doesn't agree with same sex marriage doesn't mean they are anti gay.... Most people are live and let live. Of course there are going to be some people who absolutely despise gays (I may make the assumption they may be gay themselves) but you always have some people who are in the fringes of the bell curve. "Live and let live" except to allow them to live with equal rights to themselves, because they are different... oh wait.... I love how easily people can write off what should be a human rights violation. Your post underscores the problem perfectly. Marriage is a civil right. To deny it to people, is to put yourself against them. | ||
Crushinator
Netherlands2138 Posts
On May 01 2013 01:19 Yergidy wrote: I agree. I don't know why everyone is acting like this is something groundbreaking. People don't care if someone is gay or not anymore and i'm willing to bet gays don't even care if so and so comes out, they are fine with who they are and someone "famous" (I put this in quotes cuz I don't know who the fuck this guy is) isn't going to change anything. Gays are still being discriminated against in your own country as a matter of policy. Have you even thought of the reasons why this man is the first one ever? It is because being gay can still cause pretty major problems. Homophobia is alive and well, and if you think any differently you are a fool, sir. | ||
Kiss of Judas
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xM(Z
Romania5267 Posts
On May 01 2013 01:11 KwarK wrote: Most people realise fairly early on that everyone is naked under their clothes. The conceptual awareness that other people have genitals ceases to be erotic after the first few wanks. It's the same principle. it's not that simple, you need context here else you are only talking about habits, socially driven habits with no other value then the one you're attributing to them. changing ones habit has nothing to do with right/wrong, the natural way or ... the highway. forced conformism, brought on by change, is not freedom/happiness even if things appear to be more in the right then they used to be. | ||
Kiss of Judas
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Yergidy
United States2107 Posts
Lol. Perhaps I should have worded that better. What I mean will be better stated in an example: Most anti gay rights activists are Christians, there are some Christians who are anti-gay, they don't like being around gays, etc. but the majority of Christians could care less what 2 guys or 2 girls do in a private dwelling or being around someone who is gay. That's no ones business but those 2 people. | ||
Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
Hope situations like these help others come out and make people more accepting of gay's. | ||
Klondikebar
United States2227 Posts
On May 01 2013 01:37 Kiss of Judas wrote: Marriage is a civil right for who? Monogamous straights and gays. Not polygamists. Not objectophiles. Definitely not pedophiles. They are all just TOO different. Self righteous enlightened tolerance has its limits you know. So only monogamous people can marry? That means no one ever divorces right? | ||
Kiss of Judas
26 Posts
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Crushinator
Netherlands2138 Posts
On May 01 2013 01:37 Kiss of Judas wrote: Marriage is a civil right for who? Monogamous straights and gays. Not polygamists. Not objectophiles. Definitely not pedophiles. They are all just TOO different. Self righteous enlightened tolerance has its limits you know. I am fairly open to legalised polygamous marriage, I don't think legal rights should be extended to objects, and I don't think children are able to consent to marriage. Pedophile marriage would be an odd thing indeed, children tend to age, so what would be the point? | ||
a176
Canada6688 Posts
On April 30 2013 23:38 GraFx wrote: Why this is even news baffles me. I wasn't aware gays coming out in professional sports was such a normal every day thing. | ||
Arctic Daishi
United States152 Posts
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On May 01 2013 01:43 a176 wrote: I wasn't aware gays coming out in professional sports was such a normal every day thing. If i speak for myself here in the Netherlands it's rather common with the exception of Football. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On May 01 2013 01:38 Yergidy wrote: Lol. Perhaps I should have worded that better. What I mean will be better stated in an example: Most anti gay rights activists are Christians, there are some Christians who are anti-gay, they don't like being around gays, etc. but the majority of Christians could care less what 2 guys or 2 girls do in a private dwelling or being around someone who is gay. That's no ones business but those 2 people. Even assuming the argument that marriage is a religious institution, civil unions are also banned in those dark red states. Civil unions are not a religious institution. | ||
Acertos
France852 Posts
Just because someone doesn't agree with same sex marriage doesn't mean they are anti gay... If you don't agree with same sex marriage yes you are anti-gay in a way. You tolerate them doing their things but you don't want them to marry. You don't want them to do something others do because they are gay, so it's anti-gay. It's pretty simple but alot of people deny that. You might think lightly of it but "Oh... It's just too strange, they shouldn't marry. Marry has a meaning... (then talk about his retarded religious bullshit traditions)... A child is born from a man and a woman... (then adds another so-called religious fact about humanity)... But I'm not being homophobic or anything, they just shouldn't marry". They are couples too. They just don't have the same rights as other couples because they can't marry. The whole shit in France was about our old and rotting religious community wanting to prevent gay couples from rights other couples have. Our lives should never be controlled by religions. Marriage isn't religious anymore. It is an institution, most gays don't care about its religious sense. Most of them won't marry in a church, they want to be married legally by a mayor. They care about the rights it gives like right to have children, to adopt and also have different helps when you are married but mostly to be considered the same. | ||
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