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![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/shiroiusagi/wcs/wcs_eu_lr.jpg) Tuesday, Apr 30 4:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_1_Europe/Premier TL Preview: Premier League Ro32 Group C Preview
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/r9ZH0.png) Casters: Kaelaris & ToD ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/7/7f/Twitch_ico.png) WCS EuropeAdditional Language Stream
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/6wl40.png) ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/9/98/Nl.png)  Ret vs. ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/2/2b/Ua.png)  StrelokStarting map: ESL Daybreak ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/f/fb/Ru.png)  TitaN vs. ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/d/d0/Se.png) ThorZaINStarting map: ESL Akilon Wastes
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3wcCS.png) + Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler [Ret vs. Strelok] +Poll: Recommend Ret vs. Strelok Game 1?No (11) 42% Yes (8) 31% If you have time (7) 27% 26 total votes Your vote: Recommend Ret vs. Strelok Game 1? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Ret vs. Strelok Game 2?Yes (14) 45% No (13) 42% If you have time (4) 13% 31 total votes Your vote: Recommend Ret vs. Strelok Game 2? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Ret vs. Strelok Game 3?Yes (10) 53% If you have time (5) 26% No (4) 21% 19 total votes Your vote: Recommend Ret vs. Strelok Game 3? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend TitaN vs. ThorZaIN Game 1?No (49) 91% Yes (4) 7% If you have time (1) 2% 54 total votes Your vote: Recommend TitaN vs. ThorZaIN Game 1? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend TitaN vs. ThorZaIN Game 2?No (9) 43% Yes (8) 38% If you have time (4) 19% 21 total votes Your vote: Recommend TitaN vs. ThorZaIN Game 2? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend TitaN vs. ThorZaIN Game 3?No (14) 67% Yes (4) 19% If you have time (3) 14% 21 total votes Your vote: Recommend TitaN vs. ThorZaIN Game 3? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 1?Yes (12) 46% No (8) 31% If you have time (6) 23% 26 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 1? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 2?Yes (15) 94% No (1) 6% If you have time (0) 0% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 2? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 3?Yes (8) 80% No (1) 10% If you have time (1) 10% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 3? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 1?No (10) 63% Yes (4) 25% If you have time (2) 13% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 1? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 2?Yes (3) 38% No (3) 38% If you have time (2) 25% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 2? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3?Yes (8) 73% If you have time (2) 18% No (1) 9% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 1?Yes (11) 100% No (0) 0% If you have time (0) 0% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 2?Yes (5) 56% No (4) 44% If you have time (0) 0% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 2? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 3?Yes (10) 67% No (4) 27% If you have time (1) 7% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 3? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Head?Ret & ThorZaIN (17) 28% Ret & Strelok (13) 21% Strelok & ThorZaIN (10) 16% ThorZaIN & TitaN (9) 15% Ret & TitaN (6) 10% Strelok & TitaN (6) 10% 61 total votes Your vote: Head? (Vote): Ret & Strelok
(Vote): Ret & ThorZaIN
(Vote): Ret & TitaN
(Vote): Strelok & ThorZaIN
(Vote): Strelok & TitaN
(Vote): ThorZaIN & TitaN
Poll: Heart?Ret & ThorZaIN (16) 31% Ret & Strelok (14) 27% Strelok & TitaN (8) 16% ThorZaIN & TitaN (6) 12% Ret & TitaN (4) 8% Strelok & ThorZaIN (3) 6% 51 total votes Your vote: Heart? (Vote): Ret & Strelok
(Vote): Ret & ThorZaIN
(Vote): Ret & TitaN
(Vote): Strelok & ThorZaIN
(Vote): Strelok & TitaN
(Vote): ThorZaIN & TitaN
Top 2 1st 2nd 3rd 4th
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Strelok 60.41% 32.45% 27.96% 21.08% 18.52%
TitaN 48.04% 24.03% 24.01% 25.32% 26.64%
ThorZaIN 46.71% 22.43% 24.27% 26.50% 26.79%
Ret 44.85% 21.08% 23.76% 27.10% 28.05%
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Thanks for making the thread!
That's one group that I could see going any way really, hard to guess
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Cheering for both terrans ^_^
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opterown
Australia54747 Posts
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Thanks opterown, you are making it easy with your LR resources thread. By the way, you should edit the LR calendar and a link to the tutorial by lichter into the LR resources OP, since it is sticky.
I really, really want to encourage others to make the LR threads for the next days. You might think the community doesn't need you, but it does. If you always wanted to do something for the community and don't know how, start here. Especially for everyone still in high school (Gymnasium) that has the time to follow the WCS anyway.
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Ret and Strelok I believe.
TitaN does not seem to have reached the level he was at during WoL, and the same goes for Thorzain after his DreamHack performance. Ret is one of the best Zergs in Europe at the moment, and Strelok seems to be on the up once again.
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Ret 0-2 Strelok
Titan 1-2 Thorzain (I have no idea about Titan's current status, so I'm gonna lowball him. A good Titan advances)
Strelok 1-2 Thorzain
Ret 2-1 Titan
Strelok 2-1 Ret
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United States97274 Posts
Thorzain and Strelok please because I like Terran the most and I'm selfish muahahahaha
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I think Strelok is favoured against Ret while I can't predict TitaN vs ThorZaIN at all. TitaN hasn't hit his stride yet, but neither has ThorZaIN. TitaN lost to Noname recently, but Thorzain managed to lose to Verdi. They both look relatively weak, so I think both Ret and Strelok will make it out.
Then again you can never count out Ret's unmatched ability to somehow lose games or ThorZaIN's clutchness, or TitaN's ability to surprise people with build orders they aren't prepared for.
I think Ret and Strelok are at least the strongest players in the group at the moment, but they're not likely to advance without taking a few scratches in the process.
I'd say the first two matches will tell us how the group will go as it will reveal the current shape of the players I'm not quite sure about yet.
Head predictions: Strelok/Ret
Heart predictions: Titan/Strelok
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On April 30 2013 23:29 StarVe wrote:
I think Strelok is favoured against Ret while I can't predict TitaN vs ThorZaIN at all. TitaN hasn't hit his stride yet, but neither has ThorZaIN. TitaN lost to Noname recently, but Thorzain managed to lose to Verdi. They both look relatively weak, so I think both Ret and Strelok will make it out.
Then again you can never count out Ret's unmatched ability to somehow lose games or ThorZaIN's clutchness, or TitaN's ability to surprise people with build orders they aren't prepared for.
I think Ret and Strelok are at least the strongest players in the group at the moment, but they're not likely to advance without taking a few scratches in the process.
I'd say the first two matches will tell us how the group will go as it will reveal the current shape of the players I'm not quite sure about yet.
In any case Ret has to beat Strelok or Thorzain to advance which will be pretty hard to do since I don't think his ZvT is good enough.
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On April 30 2013 23:51 Baum wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 23:29 StarVe wrote:
I think Strelok is favoured against Ret while I can't predict TitaN vs ThorZaIN at all. TitaN hasn't hit his stride yet, but neither has ThorZaIN. TitaN lost to Noname recently, but Thorzain managed to lose to Verdi. They both look relatively weak, so I think both Ret and Strelok will make it out.
Then again you can never count out Ret's unmatched ability to somehow lose games or ThorZaIN's clutchness, or TitaN's ability to surprise people with build orders they aren't prepared for.
I think Ret and Strelok are at least the strongest players in the group at the moment, but they're not likely to advance without taking a few scratches in the process.
I'd say the first two matches will tell us how the group will go as it will reveal the current shape of the players I'm not quite sure about yet. In any case Ret has to beat Strelok or Thorzain to advance which will be pretty hard to do since I don't think his ZvT is good enough.
Strelok looked pretty good with his mech style in the past weeks and I think he has a good shot at beating Ret, but Thorzain hasn't looked particularly impressive in TvZ for a very long time, I don't think it's less than 50:50 chances for Ret.
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Are the games live or casted from replays?
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opterown
Australia54747 Posts
On May 01 2013 00:27 lisward wrote:
Are the games live or casted from replays?
all live
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Oh wow, a regional WCS event with all region-specific players!
Seriously though, this is gonna be awesome I can't wait to watch. It's so hard to pick a favorite in either of these matchups, and I really think TitaN has some serious unrealized potential.
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ThorZaIN & TitaN to advance !
I believe those two have the level in both my head and my heart.
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Ret and Thorzain advance. Even though Thorzain didn't have a great dreamhack, I think he will be ok since he knew his group before hand so he can prepare.
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Northern Ireland23087 Posts
I have not seen Titan play in an absolute age, interested to see how he's doing these days.
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