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all it means was a poor word choice - i mean to say, it basically proves that we don't have a vig that isn't rainbows, and other than that, it shouldn't be a surprise at all that he survived.
you just posted again and it sort of blows my mind:
On April 09 2013 03:35 Warent wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 03:29 Obzy wrote: @Warent - assume rainbows is town. scum will specifically not kill him, because he's a lynch candidate. assume rainbows is scum. he lives because we have no other vigilante.
either way, all it means is we don't have a vig that isn't rainbows. Why is he a Lynch candidate? Because people have expressed interest in lynching him!? If you meant to imply that I wanted to lynch him - incorrect, sorry for the misunderstanding. If you meant to imply "Wow, who ever would have thought of lynching him?" - are you even reading lol >.> I take it that you, then, have zero objection to thinking Rainbows is town and have zero intention of lynching him yourself, or you never would've asked that question. However, before deciding to look at the voters on Jampi, whom I believe are at least reasonably townie and I would rather vote Ravens, you had indicated Rainbows, me, and Fish as potential scum, directly after the mislynch.
So now you both do not understand why Rainbows would still be alive, AND the idea of him being lynched today had apparently not crossed your mind. In end-game I'll apologize for this tone if you are town, but honestly, I don't see a way that you could have logically changed your mind on Rainbows, secretly, to a point that it makes you ask why he would be lynched. Please convince me otherwise.
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Well, sense were on the subject of rainbows and people who voted for Jambi.... may I take this time to point out who started the first case against our mislynched cop budy? Why... it would be rainbows! Who luckily shifted off it onto me and vanished off into the wilderness. So... to all the people who are accusing at least one person on Jampi... why are you not at least considering the one who started it all?
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On April 09 2013 03:42 Obzy wrote:all it means was a poor word choice - i mean to say, it basically proves that we don't have a vig that isn't rainbows, and other than that, it shouldn't be a surprise at all that he survived. you just posted again and it sort of blows my mind: Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 03:35 Warent wrote:On April 09 2013 03:29 Obzy wrote: @Warent - assume rainbows is town. scum will specifically not kill him, because he's a lynch candidate. assume rainbows is scum. he lives because we have no other vigilante.
either way, all it means is we don't have a vig that isn't rainbows. Why is he a Lynch candidate? Because people have expressed interest in lynching him!? If you meant to imply that I wanted to lynch him - incorrect, sorry for the misunderstanding. If you meant to imply "Wow, who ever would have thought of lynching him?" - are you even reading lol >.> I take it that you, then, have zero objection to thinking Rainbows is town and have zero intention of lynching him yourself, or you never would've asked that question. However, before deciding to look at the voters on Jampi, whom I believe are at least reasonably townie and I would rather vote Ravens, you had indicated Rainbows, me, and Fish as potential scum, directly after the mislynch. So now you both do not understand why Rainbows would still be alive, AND the idea of him being lynched today had apparently not crossed your mind. In end-game I'll apologize for this tone if you are town, but honestly, I don't see a way that you could have logically changed your mind on Rainbows, secretly, to a point that it makes you ask why he would be lynched. Please convince me otherwise.
Why do you find it likely that I would be able to convince people to lynch Rain today when I failed yesterday? Isn't a lynch candidate someone likely to be lynched?
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On April 09 2013 04:02 TheRavensName wrote: Well, sense were on the subject of rainbows and people who voted for Jambi.... may I take this time to point out who started the first case against our mislynched cop budy? Why... it would be rainbows! Who luckily shifted off it onto me and vanished off into the wilderness. So... to all the people who are accusing at least one person on Jampi... why are you not at least considering the one who started it all? EBWOP: Well, maybe calling it a case is being generous.
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Hmmm. Would you have preferred if I said "potential lynch candidate"? Regardless, your wording bothered me.
(And I don't necessarily find it likely lol - I did, however, find it likely that people would try, and am perplexed at how you apparently did not expect it - to a point that you thought he would be nk'd by mafia, assuming he is town.
Ravens, I don't remember Rainbows making a case against Jampi, I thought it was an omgus vote. The cases came from myself, Smancer, and varying suspicions throughout the game from other people in the thread like Fish. You may mean to say "who voted first" - in which case, quite right. Do you mean to imply that you find the four people on Jampi townie enough that we should expand our search and think of Rainbows instead? + Show Spoiler +As I'm currently voting for you, and I've been rather vocal in my believe that Rainbows is likely town, that indicates to me that there are not ANY scum on Jampi's wagon, at this point in time. I'll happily reconsider later, if things turn out differently - and I [seem to] have a bit of a problem with association cases lol..
Thread activity is miserable. If you haven't posted yet today (that is to say, day 2), please post. Even just to fucking say hi so we know you're reading the thread and questions can be directed at you. If we have a bunch of lurkers (nobodywonder, Jarjar), and a few nonposters so far today (Fish, Moloch), it's hard to actually narrow down who isn't scummy. -_-
--and Ravens just posted his thought on it not really being a case - Hm :l
Ravens, although I think I also wrote it above, do you think that the four people on Jampi are town, and that is why you are bringing up Rainbows to be looked at as well?
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Raven, who are my scumbuddies? I'm waiting for you to stop facerolling and give me an answer.
The fact that you just tried to pin the jampi lynch on me is hilarious. It's actually funny now that i look at it. I had a town read on jamp until that terrible case - i was convinced that town would never be that stupid. But hey, apparently i was wrong.
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@Obzy And I'm equally perplexed at how you think it's so obvious and clear that he would be a lynch target today after all he did - claiming, surviving, and what not. And yes - I agree - the only hard fact we have is: If there is a vigi - that's Rainbow and if Rain is vigi mafia has a role blocker.
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On April 09 2013 04:58 Rainbows wrote: Raven, who are my scumbuddies? I'm waiting for you to stop facerolling and give me an answer.
The fact that you just tried to pin the jampi lynch on me is hilarious. It's actually funny now that i look at it. I had a town read on jamp until that terrible case - i was convinced that town would never be that stupid. But hey, apparently i was wrong.
I could ask you the same question, if I'm scum who are mine? My answer to yours is I simply don't know. Right now I'm trying to figure out if Obzy was defending you out of being scum or not, one of the few people that stands out to me is Warant, because he is one of the only people that called you scum and you basically ignored in comarpsion to everyone else: He didn't get a nice pretty rainbows vote next to his name.
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On April 09 2013 05:18 TheRavensName wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 04:58 Rainbows wrote: Raven, who are my scumbuddies? I'm waiting for you to stop facerolling and give me an answer.
The fact that you just tried to pin the jampi lynch on me is hilarious. It's actually funny now that i look at it. I had a town read on jamp until that terrible case - i was convinced that town would never be that stupid. But hey, apparently i was wrong.
I could ask you the same question, if I'm scum who are mine? My answer to yours is I simply don't know. Right now I'm trying to figure out if Obzy was defending you out of being scum or not, one of the few people that stands out to me is Warant, because he is one of the only people that called you scum and you basically ignored in comarpsion to everyone else: He didn't get a nice pretty rainbows vote next to his name.
Im pretty sure everyone in the thread has called me scum or at least expressed distaste for me.
As for you, NW and some other guy
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Okay so I'm at work right now and posting more often than I thought I would I dunno if I'm going to continue once I get home but this town activity is atrocious I hate leading and don't want to lead but if nobody is even going to be here then somebody has to start doing something to drive conversation and get lurkers out because having no lurkers is a huge fucking problem right now so here we go.
At the moment, my reads are Town: Me, Fish, Rain Null: Smancer, Moloch, Kirby Lurker: nobodywonder, Jarjar. Scummy: Ravens, Warent.
The problem is that Moloch, Kirby, nobodywonder, Jarjar, and Fish aren't posting (or at least - not enough). Ravens and Warent are posting and I'm getting scum vibes, but they could just be _relatively_ scummy compared to Rain and Smancer. To further identify if they are actually scum, I would like to be able to continue gathering thoughts on the other five.
Ravens - at a complete fucking dart-board guess, my heart tells me that you, warents, and nobodywonder are scum. If one of those is wrong, add in Smancer. I hate speculating but right now we're on the fast-track to a loss unless we get very, very lucky. I'm still voting for you, but I'm not as certain as I want to be because we don't have enough fucking information!
We have posted THREE PAGES IN DAY TWO, two votes have been placed, and nobody seems to care!
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On April 09 2013 05:22 Rainbows wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 05:18 TheRavensName wrote:On April 09 2013 04:58 Rainbows wrote: Raven, who are my scumbuddies? I'm waiting for you to stop facerolling and give me an answer.
The fact that you just tried to pin the jampi lynch on me is hilarious. It's actually funny now that i look at it. I had a town read on jamp until that terrible case - i was convinced that town would never be that stupid. But hey, apparently i was wrong.
I could ask you the same question, if I'm scum who are mine? My answer to yours is I simply don't know. Right now I'm trying to figure out if Obzy was defending you out of being scum or not, one of the few people that stands out to me is Warant, because he is one of the only people that called you scum and you basically ignored in comarpsion to everyone else: He didn't get a nice pretty rainbows vote next to his name. Im pretty sure everyone in the thread has called me scum or at least expressed distaste for me. As for you, NW and some other guy Yes, but everyone who even made somewhat of a case against you got a vote against him.
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On April 09 2013 05:25 TheRavensName wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 05:22 Rainbows wrote:On April 09 2013 05:18 TheRavensName wrote:On April 09 2013 04:58 Rainbows wrote: Raven, who are my scumbuddies? I'm waiting for you to stop facerolling and give me an answer.
The fact that you just tried to pin the jampi lynch on me is hilarious. It's actually funny now that i look at it. I had a town read on jamp until that terrible case - i was convinced that town would never be that stupid. But hey, apparently i was wrong.
I could ask you the same question, if I'm scum who are mine? My answer to yours is I simply don't know. Right now I'm trying to figure out if Obzy was defending you out of being scum or not, one of the few people that stands out to me is Warant, because he is one of the only people that called you scum and you basically ignored in comarpsion to everyone else: He didn't get a nice pretty rainbows vote next to his name. Im pretty sure everyone in the thread has called me scum or at least expressed distaste for me. As for you, NW and some other guy Yes, but everyone who even made somewhat of a case against you got a vote against him.
I had a post on warent. Either way, you never pressured me at all until i cased you.
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On April 09 2013 05:23 Obzy wrote: Okay so I'm at work right now and posting more often than I thought I would I dunno if I'm going to continue once I get home but this town activity is atrocious I hate leading and don't want to lead but if nobody is even going to be here then somebody has to start doing something to drive conversation and get lurkers out because having no lurkers is a huge fucking problem right now so here we go.
At the moment, my reads are Town: Me, Fish, Rain Null: Smancer, Moloch, Kirby Lurker: nobodywonder, Jarjar. Scummy: Ravens, Warent.
The problem is that Moloch, Kirby, nobodywonder, Jarjar, and Fish aren't posting (or at least - not enough). Ravens and Warent are posting and I'm getting scum vibes, but they could just be _relatively_ scummy compared to Rain and Smancer. To further identify if they are actually scum, I would like to be able to continue gathering thoughts on the other five.
Ravens - at a complete fucking dart-board guess, my heart tells me that you, warents, and nobodywonder are scum. If one of those is wrong, add in Smancer. I hate speculating but right now we're on the fast-track to a loss unless we get very, very lucky. I'm still voting for you, but I'm not as certain as I want to be because we don't have enough fucking information!
We have posted THREE PAGES IN DAY TWO, two votes have been placed, and nobody seems to care! Tell you what, give me a real good reason to move on from Rainbows. It can not be the vigi claim and it can not be comparable to the meta of the last game he rolled scum, sense I know you at least skimmed it. Your "feeling" on Jampi was wrong, I see no reason this one can't be wrong also.
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On April 09 2013 05:27 Rainbows wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 05:25 TheRavensName wrote:On April 09 2013 05:22 Rainbows wrote:On April 09 2013 05:18 TheRavensName wrote:On April 09 2013 04:58 Rainbows wrote: Raven, who are my scumbuddies? I'm waiting for you to stop facerolling and give me an answer.
The fact that you just tried to pin the jampi lynch on me is hilarious. It's actually funny now that i look at it. I had a town read on jamp until that terrible case - i was convinced that town would never be that stupid. But hey, apparently i was wrong.
I could ask you the same question, if I'm scum who are mine? My answer to yours is I simply don't know. Right now I'm trying to figure out if Obzy was defending you out of being scum or not, one of the few people that stands out to me is Warant, because he is one of the only people that called you scum and you basically ignored in comarpsion to everyone else: He didn't get a nice pretty rainbows vote next to his name. Im pretty sure everyone in the thread has called me scum or at least expressed distaste for me. As for you, NW and some other guy Yes, but everyone who even made somewhat of a case against you got a vote against him. I had a post on warent. Either way, you never pressured me at all until i cased you. And you voted for everyone but me that made a semi decent case against you. EXCEPT Warant. Hell and lets look at all of those cases, every single one of them was based off a misinterpreation or a flat out lie/omission of anything that countermands the case even a little bit.
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Those be some sweeping generalizations there. You say everything was based on a lie omission whatever. The only thing that could be taken that way is the saraf thing, in which case it was obvious to me he was referring to me because it seemed that way.
Post anything thats a misinterpretation or based on a lie. Please. esp in the case on you, because the only read i saw was on NW, which was bad town, and i dont consider bad town a particularly strong read. you had no stances breh.
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OK, I'm finally all caught up.
First, Town Reads:
Rainbows. OK, even if you don't think his posts have been pro-town, I don't get how anyone could think his blue claim was fake. It may have been silly of him to claim it @ that point, but it's still a town claim. That's like the worst possible role scum could claim. People actually think that a scummie is not only gonna claim the one role that can get him killed without a counterclaim, but also claim it when he wasn't really close to being lynched?
Obzy. Obviously not as strong of a townread as Rainbows but not only is obzy trying to get people to talk and putting his opinions out there, but I find myself agreeing w/ alot of his analysis. I don't see anything wrong w/ his vote on Jampi since the case against him seemed pretty strong IMO.
And now scum:
jrkirby. (Surprised I know).
The first post from kirby that made me suspicious:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 15:00 jrkirby wrote: So I'm worried about rainbows. I feel like he might actually be a fatty, and is just acting stupid by accusing random people for no reason. But the way he's acting is just stupid, and only helps the skinnies. And since he's just helping the skinnies I feel like I have to vote for him, because no one is acting as stupid as him. I don't want to lynch all the lurkers just yet - partially because there's 3 of them and it's a crapshot - and rainbows is the only other guy giving off that scum vibe. So until something changes, or one of the scum making a foolish post, my vote is on rainbows.
The mafia are (probably) gonna kill one of us tonight, so it would be good if we at least have a chance of killing one of them tonight. It might not be rainbows but I feel like the chances are better than even. My original scumread post:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 21:45 JarJarDrinks wrote: K, just caught up.
I think jrkirby is my scummiest read at the moment. He votes rainbows pretty early. Then later on he tells us that he feels like he "might actually be a fatty, and is just acting stupid" BUT he feels like he has to vote for him because he's "helping the skinnies".
Anyone that votes for someone and then defends them is gonna read scum to me.
##vote: jrkirby
OK, now that it's pretty certain that rainbows is town, this looks alot worse. Now, his very next post after I accuse him:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 01:27 jrkirby wrote:On April 05 2013 21:49 Smancer wrote:I'll point out also that Molock and jkirby both think Rainbows is scum in these two posts 3 minutes apart. My initial thought is that they are scum looking to get a bandwagon vote on Rainbows. + Show Spoiler +On April 05 2013 14:57 Moloch wrote:Show nested quote +Moloch, in this post you calling Rainbows scum in a noncommital way (bolded by me). Do you think he is actually scummy for that post? That was supposed to be a joke at that point. I didn't actually think he was scummy at that point. My original vote for him was a joke as well, since it was based upon him posting a lot early and not having enough time to eat pizza. But, I've kept my vote on him for a couple reasons. According to this post, he gets very defensive about about being called scum, whereas I interpreted Saraf's comment to not be calling out anyone in particular - just being the way he thought about stuff. (It's possible that I don't feel like anyone's been spammy so far affected how I interpreted it). I also don't like how he changed his vote from Smancer to someone else to quickly. He gave a reason he thought Smancer was a suspect, then just changed it to Saraf because he got overly defensive (but he had a couple posts in between Saraf labeling him and switching his vote, which makes me suspect that it wasn't a hasty vote-switch caused by emotion) I'm not certain about anyone, but Rainbows seems like the best bet at the moment. On April 05 2013 15:00 jrkirby wrote: So I'm worried about rainbows. I feel like he might actually be a fatty, and is just acting stupid by accusing random people for no reason. But the way he's acting is just stupid, and only helps the skinnies. And since he's just helping the skinnies I feel like I have to vote for him, because no one is acting as stupid as him. I don't want to lynch all the lurkers just yet - partially because there's 3 of them and it's a crapshot - and rainbows is the only other guy giving off that scum vibe. So until something changes, or one of the scum making a foolish post, my vote is on rainbows.
The mafia are (probably) gonna kill one of us tonight, so it would be good if we at least have a chance of killing one of them tonight. It might not be rainbows but I feel like the chances are better than even. ##Unvote rainbowsBy this logic you and jarjar are scum trying to bandwagon me. But just because two people vote for the same person doesn't automatically mean they're scum. My read on rainbows wasn't very strong. There's actually someone else I've got my eye on now, but he hasn't shown any real evidence, it's just a hunch. He now backs off rainbows and says his read wasn't very strong. But it was strong enough to vote him @ the time, I didn't see anything happen in between his vote and unvote that would make him change his mind. But I guess he now has a hunch about someone, but he'll keep that to himself.
So now a bunch of people start calling him out on just how scummy that statement is and telling him that he needs to just say who he suspects and it so happens to be, Jampi, the guy that everyone was talking about @ the time and is now confirmed town. BTW, here's his "reasoning"
Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 07:36 jrkirby wrote: Ok I guess I shouldn't have said anything. My eye is on Jampidampi just because he seems clever,not makig too much of a splash, and staying hidden within all the action, while still posting a fair amount. I didn't want to say anything because he hasn't given any real clear indication. He hasn't said anything scummy, but that might just mean he's a clever scum. Then he goes ahead and posts his "Scummyness rating" post and aside from me, everyone falls is between 23% and 33%. Well what does that really tell us? In fact, I'm his top scum read and here's his verdict on me: "Kinda scummy. 45% scum". It's clearly a post designed to look like he's giving his opinion about people without really saying anything. I mean can you look @ this and figure out what his real opinion is on most of these people:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 08:54 jrkirby wrote: My "Scummyness rating" will be based on 11 other people, 3 scum, so everyone starts out at 3/11 or 27% scum.
Ok. Let me list my reads on everyone:
JarJarDrinks: You vote for me for a not good reason, don't say much else. Kinda scummy. 45% scum.
Smancer: I think he just misread me. Gettin good discussion, but not saying much irrelevant stuff. 25% scum.
jampidampi: I think he's clever. Hasn't given any clues as to scummyness, but has done a good job of diverting attention everywhere else. I just kinda have a hunch he's scum, no evidence. 33% scum. My "Mystery read" if you can call it that.
Warent: I'm really not sure on you. 27% scum.
Saraf: Not enough content for a good read. 26% scum.
TheRavensName: Needs to post more, and say more about his reads. 28% scum.
Fishgle: Seems pretty reasonable, has a couple of insights. 23% scum.
Moloch: Same as Raven. 28% scum.
Obzy: Pretty clear headed, nothing out of the ordinary. 25% scum.
nobodywonder: My read is probably biased because you voted for me and then left without much explaining. 32% scum.
Rainbows: I've recently been leaning towards stupid townie, but I still can't understand your big deal with saraf. There isn't much either way with him IMO. 30% scum. (was higher a while ago)
My reads aren't very clear, but it's the first day still and I don't have solid evidence. Hopefully after the night I can analyse who the mafia killed and who voted for who a bit better and get some solid reads. Though he makes sure to tell me that he put out a list of his thoughts:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 11:26 jrkirby wrote: @Moloch I like your reads moloch. My suspiciousness of jampidampi is nothing I would vote on. I have no real evidence against him. I just have this hunch in the back of my head telling me to watch out for him.
@Jarjar Please give me more reasons why you think I'm scum. And tell me what you think of everyone else? I put a list of what I thought of everybody. Why don't you do the same.
Oh, and don't tell me you hate me because I'm suspicious of jampidampi, you voted for me before I said anything about that. I'm confused about this last statement. What reason would he have to think that I'd be suspicious of him posting against jampidampi @ this time? I never mentioned anything about him.
He again points out how he posted all his reads.
So now, a bunch of the votes move to jampi. No reason for him to pile on so he votes for me posting his case which mostly is that I'm a lurker and I voted for him:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 04:32 jrkirby wrote:I want to make a case against JarJarDrinks. Jarjar has been playing very lurky. There are only two players he has talked about: Me and Rainbows. His first post was a vote against me. On April 05 2013 21:45 JarJarDrinks wrote: K, just caught up.
I think jrkirby is my scummiest read at the moment. He votes rainbows pretty early. Then later on he tells us that he feels like he "might actually be a fatty, and is just acting stupid" BUT he feels like he has to vote for him because he's "helping the skinnies".
Anyone that votes for someone and then defends them is gonna read scum to me.
##vote: jrkirby
Barely any reasoning at all. None of his other posts expand on this reasoning. He says that he likes that rainbows is talking a lot, yet he himself barely says a thing. On April 06 2013 04:06 JarJarDrinks wrote:On April 06 2013 03:45 jrkirby wrote: What about you jarjar? What do you think about rainbows? or any other player for that matter? Because you've only talked about me so far. Reading rainbows as town mostly but that's due in part to believing that you're scum. He's talking alot which I like. Though he did that in the last game which had me fooled for quite a bit. My turn for a question: Why did you unvote? When I call him out on it he just says this: On April 06 2013 04:41 JarJarDrinks wrote:On April 06 2013 04:18 jrkirby wrote: If you like people talking a lot, why have you been so quiet thus far? I'm here now. Right now you're my top scumread so I'm focusing on you. Like every post you make looks more and more scummy to me. So now you were voting for him but it wasn't a serious vote? And then dissapears. For a whole day. RECAP: Votes for little reason, gives reads on almost no one, lurks, claims he likes people who post a lot, and never posts. Why not Rainbows: + Show Spoiler +Rainbows seems bad. But I don't want to lynch him tonight unless someone counterclaims vigilante. JarJarDrinks is a clearly much better vote than rainbows. Why not TheRavensName: + Show Spoiler +Honestly Rainbows case against him seems a little bad. Maybe he's a little lurky, but not nearly as much as JarJarDrinks. I don't see any case where he's a better lynch. And I don't trust Rainbows even if he's not scum. If rainbows isn't scum, he's stupid. Why not jampidampi: + Show Spoiler +Yes, I had a hunch against him before. Now the only real evidence is the crappy claim he made against rainbows. And there are good reasons to not like rainbows other than what he wrote. Also, just because you make a terrible argument doesn't make you scum. Theres no way this is a better day one lynch than JarJarDrinks. ##Vote: JarJarDrinks
So now that it looks like jampi is gonna get hanged, he starts defending him:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 06:16 jrkirby wrote: Obzy: I want a good explaination why you prefer jampidampi over jarjar.
JarJar: if you show up, I want to see your reads on everyone. So you better show up fast, cause there's a lot to read. Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 07:34 jrkirby wrote: I think jampidampi is town. At least for now. Earlier I had a hunch against him. I thought he was clever. Asking questions of rainbows, getting reads, and but not showing his opinion too much, because he wasn't ready to commit to his reads. Did he focus more on rainbows than anyone else? Yeah. But he also was talking to me, moloch, and saraf. And he had reason to keep his eye on rainbows. Rainbows was doing suspicious things and avoiding his questions.
Yeah, his final case against Rainbows was poorly written, and not convincing. But that doesn't mean he didn't have good reason to write it!
And if you're not reading rainbows as town, JarJarDrinks is a way better choice than Jampi. I'm suspicious that JarJarDrinks cast a vote on e to try to take the attention off Rainbows. Whether that's true or not, jampi hasn't been defending anyone. And that's the only thing mafia needs to do day 1. Just make sure none of they're own are lynched. WTF? What changed? I can understand if he just said that he thought I was the better lynch, but "I think jampidampi is town."???? jampidampi was his 2nd highest scumread in his scum percentage indicator post. Which goes back to my point about how that post was pretty much garbage and just a way to make it look like he was posting his opinions.
So now here's where he tries to set up obzy and rainbows(my 2 towreads):Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 08:24 jrkirby wrote: Honestly I never expected Obzy to vote for JarJar. Or rainbows (he wont post here again until tomorrow, unless jampi doesn't have enough votes, and then he'll switch to jampi).
Heres my full read:
JarJarDrinks, Rainbows, and Obzy are scum. JarJar defended Rainbows with his stupid vote on me. That wasn't enough. Rainbows just knew he had to vote anywhere but Obzy or JarJar. Things get rough and he votes wherever, cause he's stupid. Obzy know he has to save his partner's ass. And Obzy does so well, because Obzy isn't terrible at this game. But Obzy can't let JarJar get lynched either. That would be cutting it too close. So blame gets put on jampi, who made a foolish post on rainbows. Another reason they thought they could get jampi was my unfounded suspicion of him. But I didn't hold to that hunch, because I'm just not seeing it. What I am seeing is two terrible scum (JarJar and Rainbows), and one clever scum (Obzy).
Why do I think jarjar is the best lynch tonight? He's the one I'm most confident on. He's the one that's least bad to lose if I'm wrong. JarJarDrinks could still be scum even if my theory is wrong. And probably is.
TheRavensName needs to get back here. Warent needs to get back here. nobodywonder needs to get back here. Rainbows should get back here, but I don't care, he's stupid. This is clearly someone that knows jampi is about to flip green and is trying to set up obzy and rainbows. There's no way he could speculate that much and be so sure that jampy is town. Especially since he was one of his top suspects earlier in the day.
So now I see that he's changed his tune on his scumreads and now thinks rainbows is town because rainbows survived through the night. Because obviously the real vigilante would have killed him if he fake-claimed. But for some reason he thought that a scum rainbows never consider that something like that would happen.
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On April 09 2013 05:23 Obzy wrote: The problem is that Moloch, Kirby, nobodywonder, Jarjar, and Fish aren't posting (or at least - not enough). Ravens and Warent are posting and I'm getting scum vibes, but they could just be _relatively_ scummy compared to Rain and Smancer. To further identify if they are actually scum, I would like to be able to continue gathering thoughts on the other five.
Would be very very good with some more activity, especially from nobodywonder and jarjar, problem with lynching lurkers now is that we can't afford more miss-lynches, and well feels like it's basically a shot in the dark when we don't have enough information.
In any case I'm sticking to my previous post were I point out that our main focus should be on the four who voted for jampi, especially curious about your reads on each others (those of you who haven't provided that yet).
Good night.
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On April 09 2013 05:28 TheRavensName wrote: Tell you what, give me a real good reason to move on from Rainbows. It can not be the vigi claim and it can not be comparable to the meta of the last game he rolled scum, sense I know you at least skimmed it. Your "feeling" on Jampi was wrong, I see no reason this one can't be wrong also.
He ragequit, which I think is a townie move because I've done it before, his claim makes no fucking sense from any standpoint so it was probably a dumb townie move, he was the primary person being talked about and I am the only one (or it fucking feels like it at least) who has been adamantly defending him and I'm town so where are his scumbuddies. He did claim vigilante (Sorry, not ignoring it) which is a risky play and stupid under the circumstances if he were scum to claim instead of just calmly deflecting pressure, he's actually playing the game again which at least makes me breathe a small sigh of fucking relief;
I want to follow somebody, not lead myself, and Rainbows (at the beginning, anyways) did an admirable job of attempting to lead, as insane as it may have been, and [got distracted, forgot what I was gonna put here, then noticed JarJar posted. Thank god for that, I'm gonna read what he posted! Fuck these thoughts.]
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