And suddenly marv turns on the SERIOUS MODE.
Its not scummy, its just not alignment indicative as oh good plan = town.
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Oatsmaster
United States16199 Posts
And suddenly marv turns on the SERIOUS MODE. Its not scummy, its just not alignment indicative as oh good plan = town. | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
On February 25 2013 10:50 cDgCorazon wrote: Show nested quote + On February 25 2013 10:45 yamato77 wrote: On February 25 2013 10:44 cDgCorazon wrote: On February 25 2013 10:40 yamato77 wrote: On February 25 2013 10:39 cDgCorazon wrote: On February 25 2013 10:37 yamato77 wrote: On February 25 2013 10:35 cDgCorazon wrote: @Yamato On February 25 2013 10:33 iamperfection wrote: and hint hint all reads subject to change deal with it I hope you read that too. What are you trying to get at? That every post should not be saying "_____ is scum, here's why". That's not discussion, that's "Reign of Terror". Reads change during the game. You want me to come out and say that I think you are 100% scum confirmed without any possible changes of heart later on. That is ridiculous and you know it. No, I want you to take any stance at all about anyone's alignment And you aren't. I want you to not say everyone that disagrees with you is scum. And you aren't. Savvy? I never, ever said that. Ever. You are not doing well here, my friend. Then why, when I said that I disagreed with your desired way to play the game and that there were conflicts in your arguments, did you change the subject and put pressure on me? That's a scummy move. You tried to flip the tables and use Marv's momentum to attack me and making it look like you are scum hunting when in reality you are just pressuring me to be so good at Mafia that I have the scum team pegged down already. That is a scummy move. Do some real scumhunting. Threatening me is not going to help disprove the "Reign of Terror" atmosphere that you are putting out here. You picked an opportune moment to pile on the people questioning me, and all of what you had written was retreading stuff people had already put out there. I was tired of talking about setup, which is pointless and was getting irritatingly stupid, so I put out my scum read. Since then, you haven't managed to take any stances about anyone being mafia at all for anything that is actually alignment indicative. Now you're all-in because I'm your only read, so you call me scummy now when earlier you didn't. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16199 Posts
Well I was just saying that Yamato doesn't like half-reads. He expects a full 100% town read or a 100% scum read. Any reason why you care about how yamato likes his reads? | ||
Acrofales
Spain17182 Posts
You two should stop shitting up the thread and look at other people than each ohter. | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
Whatever, I've done enough. Other people can post. | ||
Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
Here's your initial post cut down: On February 25 2013 09:29 Dienosore wrote: - Snarf/Marv's plan to use all of our time to get a majority before dueling seems like the best and most logical path of action. No complaints there. You agree with the general consensus of the thread. Adds nothing. On February 25 2013 09:29 Dienosore wrote: - Yamato, easy on the trigger amigo. I can see some merit to what you are saying, though. It might be very beneficial for the town to have someone like you who is willing to duel in order to prove alignment, as long as you follow the general town consensus. Could help to keep everyone honest... ...On the other hand, you might be mafia... in which case having you as a baseline enforcer would only result in towny deaths. Until you get cleared somehow, I think we should stick with the plan to just take our time. You tell yamato to stop acting how he's acting, yet you can see the merit of how hes acting, then you waffle a couple of sentences about him being either alignment, then conclude with 'just do what everyone else is doing'. It says literally nothing of value. On February 25 2013 09:29 Dienosore wrote: - Corazon: I don't know you, therefore I don't not like you! <3 Not sure why marv is putting doubt on you already, but I generally trust him. Is there something about you I should know? Here you buddy Corazon, saying you are unsure why marv is doing what hes doing, but you generally trust marv, but you don't state if you're trusting him THIS TIME and agree with his read on Corazon or whether you disagree as you hinted at in the beginning. Again, this is just a nothing paragraph. On February 25 2013 10:41 Dienosore wrote: Show nested quote + On February 25 2013 10:06 Adam4167 wrote: This started 30 minutes after i went to bed, bleh =( I agree with Yamato, If i see scum, i'll make my case and duel them. Forcing two other people to duel at your behest is weak - man up, take responsibility for your reads. Dieno, your opening post was quite bad. You seem to be trying to make friends with and please everyone, while saying absolutely nothing of value. Step it up or get dueled tomorrow. How was my opening post bad lol. I said hello, gave my stance on the things being discussed at the moment (there wasnt much happening). I am a friendly guy, you should know this from our previous games. I was trying to get more info on someone I didnt know before I formed an opinion on them. However, you implying you want to duel with your first post seems way sketchy. No discussion, no case, just PLAY BETTER OR DIE lol How does anything you say accomplish information extraction as you say? "Is there something about you I should know?" is about as vague as anything you could post and it went completely ignored as a result. I didn't imply I wanted to duel, I specifically stated it. You deem it 'way sketchy'. Is that scummy? if you think its scummy, then call it what it is. Its not 'PLAY BETTER OR DIE' its 'you have less than 24 hours to change my mind, or we duel'. | ||
Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Can you both take a breather and calmly explain who your scumreads are and why? Both of you are at the throat of every person who accuses you, and I can't keep track of it for the life of me. | ||
iamperfection
United States9601 Posts
On February 25 2013 11:03 Hapahauli wrote: @ Yamato + Cora Can you both take a breather and calmly explain who your scumreads are and why? Both of you are at the throat of every person who accuses you, and I can't keep track of it for the life of me. hey you ive been looking at you. you haven't said a god damn thing yet (you can check your filter its all policy and useless stuff) you have just kind of been here with your pretty looking posts and your playing peace keeper why you not putting anything original in the thread you scum dog? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 25 2013 11:03 Hapahauli wrote: @ Yamato + Cora Can you both take a breather and calmly explain who your scumreads are and why? Both of you are at the throat of every person who accuses you, and I can't keep track of it for the life of me. why don't you do the same yourself? | ||
Corazon
United States3230 Posts
You picked an opportune moment to pile on the people questioning me, and all of what you had written was retreading stuff people had already put out there. I did not repeat anything that anyone had said in that post. It was my thoughts on the subject and pointing out an inconsistency that was present in your argument that no one else had pointed out before. How is that repeating? I was tired of talking about setup, which is pointless and was getting irritatingly stupid, so I put out my scum read. Since then, you haven't managed to take any stances about anyone being mafia at all for anything that is actually alignment indicative. No, you were tired of people attacking you for your gung-ho mentality, so you decided to shift the focus away from that. You decided to pick me because I was the only other person to come under fire, instead of looking at other targets. You tried to change the subject so you couldn't be pressured anymore. Now you're all-in because I'm your only read, so you call me scummy now when earlier you didn't. I've said this a million times. I think your actions are scummy right now, but we have a long time before we have to make a decision about who we want to duel and who we want to vote off. You're acting too hasty in getting to that point. Sure we can sit here and argue with each other, but who knows who will still be here come D2? I can sit here and say all I want about how other people were doing so-and-so, but I was given advice a while ago that if you go after multiple people, you never make ground on any of them, which means you are really hunting no one. | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
You're probably not mafia anyway. | ||
Oatsmaster
United States16199 Posts
but I was given advice a while ago that if you go after multiple people, you never make ground on any of them, which means you are really hunting no one. I dont feel comfortable with this statement, cora is basically namedropping here to soft claim town. Thoughts? | ||
Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On February 25 2013 10:52 Oatsmaster wrote: Hey guys, Cora is scummy for wanting to lynch rouge players and not actually scum, and in no way linking rouge play to playing like scum. Marv is also kinda suspicious. He seems too polite and that policy post had pregame written all over it. Two things about this post: 1) It sounds a lot like you're jumping on Cora by taking his one statement about "rouge players" out of context. He's been pretty vocal about Yamato, and I think it's pretty clear that he links Yamato's behavior to scummy behavior. 2) That Marv read makes no sense. If you actually read his filter, I don't know how you could come to the conclusion that he's been over-polite. Example: On February 25 2013 06:46 marvellosity wrote: It's not insanely difficult to enforce. It should be not too hard to find at least the group of people we want to lynch into, and then give a deadline/ultimatum for 2 of them to duel, or if there's 1 clear frontrunner, give a couple of people the choice of whether they want to duel with the frontrunner. Actually the information you'll get from how people deal with this while under suspicion is probably far greater than any information you'll get from just having one clear townie dueling with someone suspicious. Whether ppl duel like they're asked, or go afk, how the suspects deal with the whole dueling situation - there's a whole mine of good shit there. Further, I overwhelmingly back my judgement on who mafia are and are not over yours, yamato, so the last thing I need is you running off playing the hero. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 25 2013 11:11 yamato77 wrote: I'm bored with you, Cora. You're probably not mafia anyway. I like this. Want to say why not? | ||
Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On February 25 2013 11:11 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + but I was given advice a while ago that if you go after multiple people, you never make ground on any of them, which means you are really hunting no one. I dont feel comfortable with this statement, cora is basically namedropping here to soft claim town. Thoughts? There aren't any coaches for this game? | ||
Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On February 25 2013 11:12 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On February 25 2013 11:11 yamato77 wrote: I'm bored with you, Cora. You're probably not mafia anyway. I like this. Want to say why not? Yes I would love to know why you are "bored of me". Is it because you realize I'm right? Is this a continuation of a trend to change the subject when the pressure is on you? | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
On February 25 2013 11:12 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On February 25 2013 11:11 yamato77 wrote: I'm bored with you, Cora. You're probably not mafia anyway. I like this. Want to say why not? He's arguing his point with me, standing his ground. It's that I'm mafia, but it's reasonable for him to think I'm just jumping on with you and others who had expressed dislike with him. Arguing the point does nothing to get any better read on him. | ||
thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On February 25 2013 10:58 Oatsmaster wrote: I would not say you were very mannered in LIX. And suddenly marv turns on the SERIOUS MODE. Its not scummy, its just not alignment indicative as oh good plan = town. so Oats, why so scared to attack marv? | ||
Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On February 25 2013 11:15 yamato77 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 25 2013 11:12 marvellosity wrote: On February 25 2013 11:11 yamato77 wrote: I'm bored with you, Cora. You're probably not mafia anyway. I like this. Want to say why not? He's arguing his point with me, standing his ground. It's that I'm mafia, but it's reasonable for him to think I'm just jumping on with you and others who had expressed dislike with him. Arguing the point does nothing to get any better read on him. Then why do you do it right when another attack on someone else opens up? | ||
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