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On January 06 2013 23:08 Vivax wrote: That's terrible logic. You're assuming scum wouldn't do mistakes. That is pure WIFOM.
I'm saying that scum talk about their night actions, they do it together, they don't fucking forget how many shots they have. You calling it wifom because there is a super small chance it really was scum making a mistake is dumb.
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On January 06 2013 23:09 Vivax wrote: Not even WIFOM, that's assuming mafia players would always play optimally by your standards.
I think scum in general are more careful with what they say, yes. Now get the fuck away from me you're annoying.
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Oh man, there are some hilarious bread crumb posts day one. Shout outs to you guys who bc'd those things. Making this read through super entertaining. I vote we keep these super duper town guys around, blues are cool.
I'd put CC on the scum list as well. On January 03 2013 11:46 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2013 09:55 Lazermonkey wrote: Owell, I will go to bed now. Will vote Tunkeg for the time being tho it is subject to change.
##Unvote ##Vote: Tunkeg Waddaya guys think about this vote? Scummiest in thread so far imo. "So yeah I'm just going to park my vote riiiiiight here. But I'll totes change it guys don't worry"
Assuming Palmar flips scum and not 3p Hopeless looks bad too.
On January 03 2013 11:34 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2013 11:27 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 03 2013 07:44 Palmar wrote:On January 03 2013 07:43 grush57 wrote: do a video palmar! Nah, I read my role pm, it'll be too hard to fake that I'm town on camera. How did no one jump on this btw? I'm going with the logic that Palmar is too dumb to slip so it was a trap, which makes him clearly town in my book. This was intentional to me. Palmar doesn't seem like the kind of player who would slip like that, so I read that post in a joking tone. That said, I certainly don't have a townread on Palmar. Then again, I wouldn't lynch him either, but only because I've fucked that up once in the past and he's almost always a prime target for mafia KP, so I'm much more comfortable leaving him alive. Despite his shitty reasons for voting bugs and being generally trolly for the time being, I don't think it is ever worth lynching him Day 1 because he's so likely to get shot all the time. Same goes for marv on the "do not lynch Day 1 list"
yeah Clarity, Sent said something wrong. That just means it is wrong. Not townie or scummy. Sent is a decent enough player he should know better, since he said a stupid he didn't know better. Null. I'd suggest you look elsewhere for scum though.
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On January 06 2013 23:10 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 23:08 Vivax wrote: That's terrible logic. You're assuming scum wouldn't do mistakes. That is pure WIFOM.
I'm saying that scum talk about their night actions, they do it together, they don't fucking forget how many shots they have. You calling it wifom because there is a super small chance it really was scum making a mistake is dumb.
Good enough scum players intentionally put mistakes into their play to appear townie. Don't be fooled by fools.
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If you want more practice seeing beyond, here is a great test with a cool reward:
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Chezinu just made me waste 1:19 of my life.
He's hardcore trolling.
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On January 06 2013 23:15 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 23:10 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 06 2013 23:08 Vivax wrote: That's terrible logic. You're assuming scum wouldn't do mistakes. That is pure WIFOM.
I'm saying that scum talk about their night actions, they do it together, they don't fucking forget how many shots they have. You calling it wifom because there is a super small chance it really was scum making a mistake is dumb. Good enough scum players intentionally put mistakes into their play to appear townie. Don't be fooled by fools.
I don't know Sentinel other than from this game and if he is scum he is not playing a strong scum game, therefore he would not make a play like this. The fact that you say he's a strong player makes it more likely he's town.
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On January 06 2013 23:22 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 23:15 Promethelax wrote:On January 06 2013 23:10 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 06 2013 23:08 Vivax wrote: That's terrible logic. You're assuming scum wouldn't do mistakes. That is pure WIFOM.
I'm saying that scum talk about their night actions, they do it together, they don't fucking forget how many shots they have. You calling it wifom because there is a super small chance it really was scum making a mistake is dumb. Good enough scum players intentionally put mistakes into their play to appear townie. Don't be fooled by fools. I don't know Sentinel other than from this game and if he is scum he is not playing a strong scum game, therefore he would not make a play like this. The fact that you say he's a strong player makes it more likely he's town.
I've never played with him before but I have read AoE and pyp:r. He seemed like a good but not incredible player. I have him in my mental list of mafia players on tl as 'above average' Someone who knows him better than I do (read at all) could tell you more. I agree with your read and disagree with your reasons. Don't get caught up in shitty heuristics.
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oh fuck, every time. pyp : r
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On January 06 2013 23:19 Vivax wrote: Chezinu just made me waste 1:19 of my life.
He's hardcore trolling. Did you see it? It's pretty cool once you can see it.
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Hey brown'nu, what do you think about our bearded Icelandic friend?
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On January 06 2013 23:27 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 23:22 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 06 2013 23:15 Promethelax wrote:On January 06 2013 23:10 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 06 2013 23:08 Vivax wrote: That's terrible logic. You're assuming scum wouldn't do mistakes. That is pure WIFOM.
I'm saying that scum talk about their night actions, they do it together, they don't fucking forget how many shots they have. You calling it wifom because there is a super small chance it really was scum making a mistake is dumb. Good enough scum players intentionally put mistakes into their play to appear townie. Don't be fooled by fools. I don't know Sentinel other than from this game and if he is scum he is not playing a strong scum game, therefore he would not make a play like this. The fact that you say he's a strong player makes it more likely he's town. I've never played with him before but I have read AoE and pyp:r. He seemed like a good but not incredible player. I have him in my mental list of mafia players on tl as 'above average' Someone who knows him better than I do (read at all) could tell you more. I agree with your read and disagree with your reasons. Don't get caught up in shitty heuristics.
So why do you think he's town?
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On January 06 2013 23:31 Promethelax wrote: Hey brown'nu, what do you think about our bearded Icelandic friend? wait.. are you saying that you are choosing me?
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On January 06 2013 23:28 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 23:19 Vivax wrote: Chezinu just made me waste 1:19 of my life.
He's hardcore trolling. Did you see it? It's pretty cool once you can see it.
No, I've seen all variants of these tricks but I don't see anything in this one.
Do you play with 3d glasses on or something?
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On January 06 2013 23:41 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 23:28 Chezinu wrote:On January 06 2013 23:19 Vivax wrote: Chezinu just made me waste 1:19 of my life.
He's hardcore trolling. Did you see it? It's pretty cool once you can see it. No, I've seen all variants of these tricks but I don't see anything in this one. Do you play with 3d glasses on or something? No, you focus just like any other. (might help to pause it) then play it -- though the youtube play button may unfocus you. It also helps to keep it as a small screen. Once your focused, you don't have to do anything but watch.
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oh and use spacebar to resume. Don't want to glance at the play button and mess up your focus. There is another cool video where they show slides of stereograms. You only have to focus once and you get to see tons of pictures.
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On January 06 2013 09:24 Djodref wrote: With wbg dead and really cop, Jackal is confirmed scum right now. I don't see mafia framing anyone with 3 cops (now 4) already in the cemetery...
I don't understand why mafia chose the 1 for 1 solution. I also believe iamp when he says being protected and shoot, he was confirmed town after all. wat? No.
Chezinu, I chose you! We can be the very best that no one ever was.
Okay, I'm going to bed. I've not finished reading the thread but I've made a decent dent. I'll talk to you all tomorrow. Good luck town!
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On January 06 2013 23:32 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 23:27 Promethelax wrote:On January 06 2013 23:22 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 06 2013 23:15 Promethelax wrote:On January 06 2013 23:10 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 06 2013 23:08 Vivax wrote: That's terrible logic. You're assuming scum wouldn't do mistakes. That is pure WIFOM.
I'm saying that scum talk about their night actions, they do it together, they don't fucking forget how many shots they have. You calling it wifom because there is a super small chance it really was scum making a mistake is dumb. Good enough scum players intentionally put mistakes into their play to appear townie. Don't be fooled by fools. I don't know Sentinel other than from this game and if he is scum he is not playing a strong scum game, therefore he would not make a play like this. The fact that you say he's a strong player makes it more likely he's town. I've never played with him before but I have read AoE and pyp:r. He seemed like a good but not incredible player. I have him in my mental list of mafia players on tl as 'above average' Someone who knows him better than I do (read at all) could tell you more. I agree with your read and disagree with your reasons. Don't get caught up in shitty heuristics. So why do you think he's town?
It doesn't matter right now and I won't share. Hate sharing town reads until after they are dead.
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@chezinu I see it and it's not cool. Is chezinu even readable??
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