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On February 16 2007 01:02 PaleMan wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2007 00:58 OctoPuSs wrote: Can't you just all agree that they would all have an equal shot at winning if they were to face eachother? Bringing the "Iris' percentage is better, so he would destroy NaDa" is total bullshit. Iris was 20-6, NaDa 20-7. The gap isn't big enough to bitch about it. I think NaDa and Iris are both better than Casy in terms of TvT. (I know I'll get flamed for this, but it's true.) No, I give NaDa 70%-30% vs Iris
Then you are wrong
Casy, Nada and Iris are pretty much on the same TvT level.
Then comes Xellos, Midas, Oov, Sea, Canata and GoodFriend (he used to be good )
Even taking a player from the second group and making him face one of the top3 he'll still have more then 30% chances of winning
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On February 16 2007 01:05 Gandalf wrote: I dont see Iris winning this, so obviously its going to be 3-0, 3-1 or 3-2 in Savior's favor (duh). A savior vs nada final would be great.
I never thought we'd see this sort of dominance by a player in current times. I thought starcraft had evolved so much and become so competitive now that it really wasnt possible.
(PS NaDa is still the greatest SC player ever)
right on!
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Russian Federation1953 Posts
Now I can see difference between France and Canada
P.S. OctoPuss you deserve temp ban
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I wonder what would look like bets for the finals on Fragbet if Iris wins today
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On February 16 2007 01:09 PaleMan wrote:Now I can see difference between France and Canada P.S. OctoPuss you deserve temp ban I don't see how telling someone he's dumb deserves a temp ban when he obviously is.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
mmm, maybe people will kill me for saying this but savior might actually lose... look at yesterdays games and more specifically the post match interview; savior is tired... does he have the mental and physical strength to win ANOTHER bo5? against a terran which will know his play better than anyone else? who has only had one mu to practice for ages
i dno guys.. but iris could pull it off =/ maybe 70-30 that savior wins imo
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Russian Federation1953 Posts
On February 16 2007 01:12 OctoPuSs wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2007 01:09 PaleMan wrote:Now I can see difference between France and Canada P.S. OctoPuss you deserve temp ban I don't see how telling someone he's dumb deserves a temp ban when he obviously is.
You just fail to understand that skills are not everything. There are players who CAN do it (such as NaDa) and there are players who CAN NOT (such as Iris)
Iris' second name is mediocrity He can hang with the best, but will always be 1 step behind He will never be the champ, he just don't have it
That is why I give NaDa 70% vs Iris. In friendly boX game, hell yeah, they are equal But in game for something (prize, advancing in tourney) NaDa's spirit gives him an edge
That's life
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how i wanted hwasing to kick his ass yesterday ((
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On February 16 2007 01:20 PaleMan wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2007 01:12 OctoPuSs wrote:On February 16 2007 01:09 PaleMan wrote:Now I can see difference between France and Canada P.S. OctoPuss you deserve temp ban I don't see how telling someone he's dumb deserves a temp ban when he obviously is. You just fail to understand that skills are not everything. There are players who CAN do it (such as NaDa) and there are players who CAN NOT (such as Iris) Iris' second name is mediocrity He can hang with the best, but will always be 1 step behind He will never be the champ, he just don't have it That is why I give NaDa 70% vs Iris. In friendly boX game, hell yeah, they are equal But in game for something (prize, advancing in tourney) NaDa's spirit gives him an edge That's life Paleman, dont take this the wrong way but ANY argument about Nada vs Iris can not be taken seriously... as said before they are 1-1, very little history between them and anything else is pure speculation, anything can happen on the day
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On February 16 2007 01:20 Da_PlayerX wrote:how i wanted hwasing to kick his ass yesterday (( + Show Spoiler +OMG MAN I FEEL YOUR PAIN watching game 3 live i was like OMG HWASIN JUST BUILD SOME WRAITHS TO KILL THOSE SCOURGE but he didnt and scourge > dships a savior pulled off an amazing recovery man i was so sad
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On February 16 2007 01:24 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2007 01:20 Da_PlayerX wrote:how i wanted hwasing to kick his ass yesterday (( + Show Spoiler +OMG MAN I FEEL YOUR PAIN watching game 3 live i was like OMG HWASIN JUST BUILD SOME WRAITHS TO KILL THOSE SCOURGE but he didnt and scourge > dships a savior pulled off an amazing recovery man i was so sad at the first attack hwasin could waited for another two dropships and there would be no recovery so early in the game on DF.......... btw i dont hate savior i respect him and his dominant gameplay
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Guys, the maps released just right now..
MSL Final, 3rd, March, 2007
Savior vs Bisu
Longinuse 2 Reverse temple Blitz X Desert Fox Longinuse 2
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ROFL looks familar doesnt it Savior?
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On February 16 2007 01:20 PaleMan wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2007 01:12 OctoPuSs wrote:On February 16 2007 01:09 PaleMan wrote:Now I can see difference between France and Canada P.S. OctoPuss you deserve temp ban I don't see how telling someone he's dumb deserves a temp ban when he obviously is. You just fail to understand that skills are not everything. There are players who CAN do it (such as NaDa) and there are players who CAN NOT (such as Iris) Iris' second name is mediocrity He can hang with the best, but will always be 1 step behind He will never be the champ, he just don't have it That is why I give NaDa 70% vs Iris. In friendly boX game, hell yeah, they are equal But in game for something (prize, advancing in tourney) NaDa's spirit gives him an edge That's life I agree with you that NaDa would have a certain edge due to experience and such. But Iris has definately what it takes to win a TvT finals against anyone out there. I don't understand why your opinion of him is so bad. Anything can happen in a Starleague final. Just take Anytime vs BoxeR during So1. Did Anytime have the experience? Hell no, he was a royal roader. BoxeR had the experience and still lost. GoodFrienD did incredibly well against July in the finals, despite the fact that TvZ isn't GoodFriend's best match up and that July had much more experience on the big stage.
Starleague finals are always unpredictable. IMO, Iris has been around for long enough to take any Terran on the big stage, even if he's never actually been on it. Anyway all of this is just pure speculation and day dreaming because Ma Jae Yoon is going to win tonight.
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Yea. It will be settled. We'll see Iris vs Casy in the 3/4th place match anyway
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Started :D The maps list actually has savior SMILING. :| When does that happen?
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On February 16 2007 01:30 OctoPuSs wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2007 01:20 PaleMan wrote:On February 16 2007 01:12 OctoPuSs wrote:On February 16 2007 01:09 PaleMan wrote:Now I can see difference between France and Canada P.S. OctoPuss you deserve temp ban I don't see how telling someone he's dumb deserves a temp ban when he obviously is. You just fail to understand that skills are not everything. There are players who CAN do it (such as NaDa) and there are players who CAN NOT (such as Iris) Iris' second name is mediocrity He can hang with the best, but will always be 1 step behind He will never be the champ, he just don't have it That is why I give NaDa 70% vs Iris. In friendly boX game, hell yeah, they are equal But in game for something (prize, advancing in tourney) NaDa's spirit gives him an edge That's life I agree with you that NaDa would have a certain edge due to experience and such. But Iris has definately what it takes to win a TvT finals against anyone out there. I don't understand why your opinion of him is so bad. Anything can happen in a Starleague final. Just take Anytime vs BoxeR during So1. Did Anytime have the experience? Hell no, he was a royal roader. BoxeR had the experience and still lost. GoodFrienD did incredibly well against July in the finals, despite the fact that TvZ isn't GoodFriend's best match up and that July had much more experience on the big stage. Starleague finals are always unpredictable. IMO, Iris has been around for long enough to take any Terran on the big stage, even if he's never actually been on it. Anyway all of this is just pure speculation and day dreaming because Ma Jae Yoon is going to win tonight.
Well some people play better and some people play worse in the finals. Most of the time they play better, but what matters is how much better are they than their opponent. Anytime, when he reaches finals, plays as good as any protoss out there ever. but in the group stages he look lackluster. i dont know why that happens, but it does.
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ok, so how do you watch this? Isnt it starting?
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On February 16 2007 01:09 PaleMan wrote:Now I can see difference between France and Canada P.S. OctoPuss you deserve temp ban
no way dude, that shit's inspired =]
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