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[Code S] RO32 Group F 2012 GSL Season 4 - Page 106
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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States15973 Posts
On September 11 2012 22:12 Waxangel wrote: if two zergs and a protoss get through, we can have 5:5:6 perfect balance :D This is going to rely on either DRG or Nestea breaking their slumps as well as Life performing up to his new raised expectations. This is also relying on JYP winning a group that has Nestea and Supernova in it. I don't know, the odds are looking good right now for a Terran heavy RO16. Not that I think that's a bad thing. It's good to see Terran finally bouncing back from a miniature dark age. And even then Terran heavy or not. Someone still needs to figure out how to get past Seed, otherwise I see no reason why IM won't take another trophy for their trophy case. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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Tsubbi
Germany7967 Posts
On September 11 2012 22:46 Vindicare605 wrote: This is going to rely on either DRG or Nestea breaking their slumps as well as Life performing up to his new raised expectations. This is also relying on JYP winning a group that has Nestea and Supernova in it. I don't know, the odds are looking good right now for a Terran heavy RO16. Not that I think that's a bad thing. It's good to see Terran finally bouncing back from a miniature dark age. oh yeah remember those dark ages of only 7 terrans in ro16, a number p has marked as their best season and z never achieved | ||
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lessQQmorePEWPEW
Jamaica921 Posts
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On September 11 2012 22:46 Vindicare605 wrote: This is going to rely on either DRG or Nestea breaking their slumps as well as Life performing up to his new raised expectations. This is also relying on JYP winning a group that has Nestea and Supernova in it. I don't know, the odds are looking good right now for a Terran heavy RO16. Not that I think that's a bad thing. It's good to see Terran finally bouncing back from a miniature dark age. And even then Terran heavy or not. Someone still needs to figure out how to get past Seed, otherwise I see no reason why IM won't take another trophy for their trophy case. Seed is one of the favorites but so are players like Taeja, Squirtle, and others. I don't really see anyone as an overwhelming favorites since there are still so many great players left. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States15973 Posts
On September 11 2012 22:49 Tsubbi wrote: oh yeah remember those dark ages of only 7 terrans in ro16, a number p has marked as their best season and z never achieved Well to be honest, I'm more talking about this. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_Battle.net_World_Championship 3 Terrans in the round of 32 so far. Or this. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_DreamHack_Open/Summer 3 Terrans in the Round of 16 Sure Terran has always done well in GSL, (disproportionately so actually) but in the last few months outside of the GSL, Terran has been having a really hard time especially in regards to the WCS. With MVP winning IEM, and with such a good display of Terran firepower already in GSL Season 4, it's much easier to accept the other results that have been put up lately. Like I said though, it was just a miniature dark age. | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On September 11 2012 22:54 Vindicare605 wrote: Well to be honest, I'm more talking about this. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_Battle.net_World_Championship 3 Terrans in the round of 32 so far. Sure Terran has always done well in GSL, (disproportionately so actually) but in the last few months outside of the GSL, Terran has been having a really hard time especially in regards to the WCS. Well, when people talked about terran dominance, it was always about the korean terrans. And due to missing qualifiers, getting knocked out early, not playing well in the actually tournament, terrans just didn't perform well in Korea WCS. As for foreign terrans, the top terrans have always been overshadowed by foreign protosses and zergs. For each top foreign terrans, you can probably name 2-3 protosses and zergs. | ||
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Aphod
United States72 Posts
On September 11 2012 22:49 Tsubbi wrote: oh yeah remember those dark ages of only 7 terrans in ro16, a number p has marked as their best season and z never achieved I SEE WHAT YOU DID THAR But really like half of all GSL players are Terrans, so if statistically less than half of them make it through, they're doing poorly. 7/15 is under half, but good try. Nobody ever takes into account how many Terrans are in the RO32 ;-; | ||
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Vindicare605
United States15973 Posts
On September 11 2012 22:54 vthree wrote: Seed is one of the favorites but so are players like Taeja, Squirtle, and others. I don't really see anyone as an overwhelming favorites since there are still so many great players left. From what I've seen so far in the RO32 and the GSTL. Seed is looking dominant, while Taeja and Squirtle are just looking strong. However: Seed managed to avoid playing Leenock (who looks like he's spending time in the hyperbolic time chamber) and Taeja didn't really demonstrate much outside of very strong TvT and the ability to stomp all over poor Mana, so maybe I'm underestimating him. But from what I've seen so far, Seed looks like more of a favorite than Squirtle or Taeja do currently. | ||
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BoxingKangaroo
Japan955 Posts
On September 11 2012 23:00 Swipe wrote: I SEE WHAT YOU DID THAR But really like half of all GSL players are Terrans, so if statistically less than half of them make it through, they're doing poorly. 7/15 is under half, but good try. Nobody ever takes into account how many Terrans are in the RO32 ;-; Except since the first season you have to qualify for GSL. So if half the players in GSL are Terran, you already have a problem regardless of the Ro16/32. | ||
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Aphod
United States72 Posts
On September 11 2012 23:03 BoxingKangaroo wrote: Except since the first season you have to qualify for GSL. So if half the players are Terran in GSL, you already have a problem regardless of the Ro16/32. Well the KR pro scene is packed with strong Terrrans, it's hard to keep them from getting into all the cracks. There are like maybe 10 good KR Zerg, maybe 10 Protoss, and an endless line of strong Terrans. EDIT: Yeah I started counting on my hands and got to 6 zerg I can think of who are consistently Code S level before I started pulling names out like NSH_Seal and ST_Line. Not bad players, but not Code S yet. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On September 11 2012 23:06 Dodgin wrote: It's not like lots of Terrans is a problem, who can really say they like watching PvZ and PvP over matchups with Terran in them? well TvP is no better than ZvP to me... Especially if the Zerg decides to mix it up with ultras and/or mutas | ||
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X3GoldDot
Malaysia3840 Posts
On September 11 2012 22:46 Vindicare605 wrote: This is going to rely on either DRG or Nestea breaking their slumps as well as Life performing up to his new raised expectations. This is also relying on JYP winning a group that has Nestea and Supernova in it. I don't know, the odds are looking good right now for a Terran heavy RO16. Not that I think that's a bad thing. It's good to see Terran finally bouncing back from a miniature dark age. And even then Terran heavy or not. Someone still needs to figure out how to get past Seed, otherwise I see no reason why IM won't take another trophy for their trophy case. jyp should advance along with either supernova as 1st, jyp as 2nd or jyp as 1st and life as 2nd, nestea stands hardly a chance, drg should advance becuz all 3 terrans in his group are inconsistent. there are 3 major favorites in this entire tournament which is seed, taeja and squirtle, so seed will have his work cut out for him | ||
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Aphod
United States72 Posts
On September 11 2012 23:10 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: well TvP is no better than ZvP to me... Especially if the Zerg decides to mix it up with ultras and/or mutas I mean the midgame is cool but it always turns into ring around the vortex sooner or later. Meanwhile, in the TvP lategame, storm dodging and EMPs. | ||
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X3GoldDot
Malaysia3840 Posts
On September 11 2012 23:00 Vindicare605 wrote: From what I've seen so far in the RO32 and the GSTL. Seed is looking dominant, while Taeja and Squirtle are just looking strong. However: Seed managed to avoid playing Leenock (who looks like he's spending time in the hyperbolic time chamber) and Taeja didn't really demonstrate much outside of very strong TvT and the ability to stomp all over poor Mana, so maybe I'm underestimating him. But from what I've seen so far, Seed looks like more of a favorite than Squirtle or Taeja do currently. squirtle and taeja will be favored when they play against seed, however overall i say best is seed, but as i said becuz his weakest matchup is pvp, and its squirtle's best, and taeja being taeja, he will most probably lose to those 2 if anything | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
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Irre
United States646 Posts
On September 11 2012 23:11 X3GoldDot wrote: jyp should advance along with either supernova as 1st, jyp as 2nd or jyp as 1st and life as 2nd, nestea stands hardly a chance, drg should advance becuz all 3 terrans in his group are inconsistent. there are 3 major favorites in this entire tournament which is seed, taeja and squirtle, so seed will have his work cut out for him rofl nestea hardly stands a chance... Hes NEVER fallen out of code S...HE HAD AN AWARD NAMED AFTER HIM for code S. never count out a true champion  | ||
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skyflyfish
Canada499 Posts
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