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Dustin_Butthead
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Ubersturmfuhrer
Finland206 Posts
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On August 17 2012 15:52 Ubersturmfuhrer wrote: Where the vods to the games are? I tried to look for them everywhere. I really want to see the last bit of the JD vs Genius. I missed it because I had to I think they're on gomtv's site but unless you have a pass you have to wait a week for them to become free to view. | ||
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Nekovivie
United Kingdom2599 Posts
Kespa going 4-0....... this is the new age beginning, right here | ||
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b0mBerMan
Japan271 Posts
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Talack
Canada2742 Posts
On August 17 2012 16:41 Nekovivie wrote: Holyshit didn't see these results because of watching IEM Kespa going 4-0....... this is the new age beginning, right here This same thing was said when forgg beat everyone down in his debutes. He's still good but i'm pretty sure the same regression is going to happen. | ||
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Squeegy
Finland1166 Posts
On August 17 2012 18:27 Talack wrote: This same thing was said when forgg beat everyone down in his debutes. He's still good but i'm pretty sure the same regression is going to happen. ForGG is easily a code S level terran, so I'm not sure any regression happened. Moreover, the circumstances are very different too. Now the entire proteams are switching with the coaches and support and everything. I do think this is the new beginning, but I am not saying GSL guys will become irrelevant in the next month or two at all. | ||
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On August 17 2012 18:27 Talack wrote: This same thing was said when forgg beat everyone down in his debutes. He's still good but i'm pretty sure the same regression is going to happen. Yeah but the exact same thing happened in BW as well. He had a meteoric rise into winning an MSL final, then never quite looked the same. At least these guys know how to be consistently good. | ||
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Ascention
Belgium15 Posts
On August 17 2012 15:17 Dustin_Butthead wrote: LOL, MC says he will show those KESPA players what his unstoppable Protoss is all about: can someone translate this please? | ||
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Catatonic
United States699 Posts
On August 17 2012 18:37 Squeegy wrote: ForGG is easily a code S level terran, so I'm not sure any regression happened. Moreover, the circumstances are very different too. Now the entire proteams are switching with the coaches and support and everything. I do think this is the new beginning, but I am not saying GSL guys will become irrelevant in the next month or two at all. ForGG is far from Code S he's Code A an honestly thats likely where he'll remain for some time maybe get though up an downs but he'll drop down in the first round or two an thats it. There was a definite regression though no doubt about that so I must agree that the same will likely occur though thats only my opinion I guess. | ||
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lessQQmorePEWPEW
Jamaica921 Posts
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sinigang
360 Posts
On August 17 2012 10:26 Wombat_NI wrote: It's also why you see foreigners, no matter how they practice tending to be worse than Koreans. They need to practice being pushed in the manner you outlined there. It's also for this reason that I don't see Kespa players dominating the scene unless they pretty much hide away and only play amongst themselves except for tournaments. If Kespa players play against GOM players on a regular basis, and if they are more mechanically/multitasking focused, the motivated GOM players will become accustomed to this level of play and will improve themselves. it's also possible that they'd lose repeatedly, get de-motivated, and just die out. | ||
rotinegg
United States1719 Posts
I think it's in reverse order, so I'll translate bottom-up: With the rise in skill level of Kespa players and the recent losses from current SC2 pros [he calls them 'alliance' players... what's the deal with that?], the bickering between the two communities has only been exacerbated. Whose fault is this? Is it the fault of the alliance players who lost? Or is it of the Kespa players who have the talent? It's neither; the lady of luck simply smiled towards Kespa this time I think the sentiments surrounding the situation at hand can be explained using a soccer analogy: to the fans of the alliance players, it must feel like Korean soccer just lost to Japan 10 times in a row, while to the fans of Kespa players, it must feel like we just beat the likes of Argentina, Brazil, Spain or England. However I request the fans not to crap on the alliance players so much: even though as pros, it is only the results that matter in the end, I do believe all of them would have at least put in minimal effort [to prepare for the matches]... I do admit that even though I'm no longer part of the alliance, I feel upset by how fast our players lost [to Kespa players] So.. even though I had to give up on this WCS due to my circumstances, in the upcoming OSL I will show the Kespa players a rape [he didn't say rape but the sentiments are similar] they have never experienced yet. There's nothing you can do to stop it, even if you practice, because I'm on a different level from other Toss players. One more thing, I am in no way undermining the Kespa players; I am merely telling the alliance players to be on edge and try harder. Most Kespa players have a few more years of experience on us in the professional realm, meaning they are a force to be reckoned. To all those who have taken a blow to their dignity [through the recent string of losses], I shall help you regain it. It would be so embarrassing if I lost after writing all this... ㅠㅠ So.. who is this guy? I come from a BW background so I have no idea who this is, but he sounds pretty arrogant lol I hope he has the skills to back up his words | ||
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Cokefreak
Finland8094 Posts
On August 18 2012 02:49 rotinegg wrote: I think it's in reverse order, so I'll translate bottom-up: With the rise in skill level of Kespa players and the recent losses from current SC2 pros [he calls them 'alliance' players... what's the deal with that?], the bickering between the two communities has only been exacerbated. Whose fault is this? Is it the fault of the alliance players who lost? Or is it of the Kespa players who have the talent? It's neither; the lady of luck simply smiled towards Kespa this time I think the sentiments surrounding the situation at hand can be explained using a soccer analogy: to the fans of the alliance players, it must feel like Korean soccer just lost to Japan 10 times in a row, while to the fans of Kespa players, it must feel like we just beat the likes of Argentina, Brazil, Spain or England. However I request the fans not to crap on the alliance players so much: even though as pros, it is only the results that matter in the end, I do believe all of them would have at least put in minimal effort [to prepare for the matches]... I do admit that even though I'm no longer part of the alliance, I feel upset by how fast our players lost [to Kespa players] So.. even though I had to give up on this WCS due to my circumstances, in the upcoming OSL I will show the Kespa players a rape [he didn't say rape but the sentiments are similar] they have never experienced yet. There's nothing you can do to stop it, even if you practice, because I'm on a different level from other Toss players. One more thing, I am in no way undermining the Kespa players; I am merely telling the alliance players to be on edge and try harder. Most Kespa players have a few more years of experience on us in the professional realm, meaning they are a force to be reckoned. To all those who have taken a blow to their dignity [through the recent string of losses], I shall help you regain it. It would be so embarrassing if I lost after writing all this... ㅠㅠ So.. who is this guy? I come from a BW background so I have no idea who this is, but he sounds pretty arrogant lol I hope he has the skills to back up his words If you come from a BW background you should know who SuicideToss is. | ||
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whatevername
471 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18258 Posts
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Tipany
United States368 Posts
On August 18 2012 02:49 rotinegg wrote: I think it's in reverse order, so I'll translate bottom-up: With the rise in skill level of Kespa players and the recent losses from current SC2 pros [he calls them 'alliance' players... what's the deal with that?], the bickering between the two communities has only been exacerbated. Whose fault is this? Is it the fault of the alliance players who lost? Or is it of the Kespa players who have the talent? It's neither; the lady of luck simply smiled towards Kespa this time I think the sentiments surrounding the situation at hand can be explained using a soccer analogy: to the fans of the alliance players, it must feel like Korean soccer just lost to Japan 10 times in a row, while to the fans of Kespa players, it must feel like we just beat the likes of Argentina, Brazil, Spain or England. However I request the fans not to crap on the alliance players so much: even though as pros, it is only the results that matter in the end, I do believe all of them would have at least put in minimal effort [to prepare for the matches]... I do admit that even though I'm no longer part of the alliance, I feel upset by how fast our players lost [to Kespa players] So.. even though I had to give up on this WCS due to my circumstances, in the upcoming OSL I will show the Kespa players a rape [he didn't say rape but the sentiments are similar] they have never experienced yet. There's nothing you can do to stop it, even if you practice, because I'm on a different level from other Toss players. One more thing, I am in no way undermining the Kespa players; I am merely telling the alliance players to be on edge and try harder. Most Kespa players have a few more years of experience on us in the professional realm, meaning they are a force to be reckoned. To all those who have taken a blow to their dignity [through the recent string of losses], I shall help you regain it. It would be so embarrassing if I lost after writing all this... ㅠㅠ So.. who is this guy? I come from a BW background so I have no idea who this is, but he sounds pretty arrogant lol I hope he has the skills to back up his words MC is such a joke. I don't see why saying any of this was necessary in the slightest. | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5676 Posts
On August 17 2012 18:27 Talack wrote: This same thing was said when forgg beat everyone down in his debutes. He's still good but i'm pretty sure the same regression is going to happen. Oh please ForGG retired in BW , because he wasn't doing great in it . He was good at his prime , but when he retired he was pretty bad . He also played on his own without a team for a year . You can't beat the Kespa system when it comes to practise efficiency . The only regression will see is SC2 becoming the new BW . | ||
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rotinegg
United States1719 Posts
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
On August 17 2012 07:33 ]343[ wrote: Woongjin's broken their Terran curse with Light (from MBC) and formerly Really (from eSTRO). Home-grown Stars Terrans haven't been very good though... (and no, hon_sin isn't that good T_T) Before Light/Really, Stars had Piano and MVP, who comprised probably the weakest Terran lineup on any non-ACE pro team (except maybe STX, who had ... Hwasin and a bunch of rookies at the time. I'm pretty sure even Upmagic/Really on eSTRO was stronger...) MVP was possibly the 9th or 10th best Terran at his peak. lol Really had a ton of hype, especially when he beat Flash but come on he wasn't on the same level as Light. Light was a TvZ savant and has been for years. | ||
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