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On August 12 2012 02:30 Jedclark wrote: Would love to see this. I think this could be the new 2v2 for teamleagues, since 2v2 in SC2 is, put bluntly, a piece of shit.
Personally I think team games in WC3 were much better than SC2 or BW >.<
On Topic, me an my clan members have been playing this custom game for quite a while and thought it would be very interesting
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On August 12 2012 02:32 naggerNZ wrote: The problem is the game would need an entirely different balance. I've played this quite a bit and the challenges of working as a team affects races disproportionately.
mmm, I don't think the ability to use teamwork is ever a reason to change balance. If you had teamwork, you'd progress, if you didn't, you'd fail. At least that is how I would see it playing out as far as a ladder option. However, it would be pretty easy to troll people... but, not really that much more than you could in a standard 2v2 game.
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Can you play this custom so that you play against 1 person? It would be cool to see a show segment "how many people does it take to beat a pro" or something, I would watch that.
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PLEASE GOD NO. The purpose of this custom game is to do something crazy and fun, not serious and competitive. Making this competitive would RUIN the the game.
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On August 12 2012 02:50 Peanutbutter717 wrote: Can you play this custom so that you play against 1 person? It would be cool to see a show segment "how many people does it take to beat a pro" or something, I would watch that. Yes you can! It's a lot of fun!
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On August 12 2012 03:00 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote: PLEASE GOD NO. The purpose of this custom game is to do something crazy and fun, not serious and competitive. Making this competitive would RUIN the the game.
You can play any mode for competition or fun, and you can have fun playing competitively as well. As far as the purpose of this mod, the only people who decide what that is for are the people who play it.... seriously what kind of stupid logic is this? ;/
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Competitively? No. For fun? Yes. It's pretty fun as long as you get to be the micro part. If I wanted to macro I would just play a game of 4s.
Cool idea, but it wouldn't catch my eye like typical 1v1s do.
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Wouldn't mind seeing this in like an all-stars event or random fun showmatch.
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for GSTL off the record for fun but never the real deal, this is a 1v1 game T.T Imagine in boxing if one guy moved controlled the feet and one the arms...
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On August 12 2012 03:09 Warpath wrote: Wouldn't mind seeing this in like an all-stars event or random fun showmatch. Indeed, even some GM's playing it would be fun to watch. Maybe I will try to get a few strong players to try it out in a b09 or something to watch it play out.
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In the same way occasionally there will be a FFA or 4v4 with pro players at a tourney just for fun, of course it would be fun and entertaining for micro/macro show matches.
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On August 12 2012 03:34 The WingNut wrote: In the same way occasionally there will be a FFA or 4v4 with pro players at a tourney just for fun, of course it would be fun and entertaining for micro/macro show matches.
With all the comments like this simply stating this format as a novelty, I haven't heard a single strong argument , other than preference. Would anyone care to give some feedback as to why it would be a novelty rather than just stating their opinion that that is what it's best for?
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On August 12 2012 02:15 Megaliskuu wrote: So basically its Team Melee from BW?
No, its basically Macro Micro from bw.
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It's fun to play, but no one wants to see it on a professional level. Why is it so fun to watch the pros play? To see everything that one person can pull off. Having micro/macro and other tasks allocated to other players would just not be impressive in the slightest.
On August 12 2012 03:43 Vansetsu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2012 03:34 The WingNut wrote: In the same way occasionally there will be a FFA or 4v4 with pro players at a tourney just for fun, of course it would be fun and entertaining for micro/macro show matches. With all the comments like this simply stating this format as a novelty, I haven't heard a single strong argument , other than preference. Would anyone care to give some feedback as to why it would be a novelty rather than just stating their opinion that that is what it's best for?
It would be dumbing down the game. A lot of people already complain about the skill ceiling not being high enough, so they definitely wouldn't like to see this. It'd never take off in the pro scene anyways though.
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On August 12 2012 02:50 Peanutbutter717 wrote: Can you play this custom so that you play against 1 person? It would be cool to see a show segment "how many people does it take to beat a pro" or something, I would watch that.
The funny thing is the map doesn't even really work that way. Like sure if you practice on it a bunch with people you know you could get used to it and coordinate well together. But a pro with top-tier multitasking is still going to control everything far better than 10 random guys trying to coordinate together.
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Should be played on TL Attack to see how many people a pro can handle. Can ten diamond players working together overcome a pro?
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On August 12 2012 04:21 IcedBacon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2012 02:50 Peanutbutter717 wrote: Can you play this custom so that you play against 1 person? It would be cool to see a show segment "how many people does it take to beat a pro" or something, I would watch that. The funny thing is the map doesn't even really work that way. Like sure if you practice on it a bunch with people you know you could get used to it and coordinate well together. But a pro with top-tier multitasking is still going to control everything far better than 10 random guys trying to coordinate together.
It's a nice claim to make, but I think seeing it played out would be better proof :p I feel like 2-3 masters players could easily take games of high level players.
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On August 12 2012 03:43 SnowFantasy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2012 02:15 Megaliskuu wrote: So basically its Team Melee from BW? No, its basically Macro Micro from bw.
While yes you are true. Team Melee was basically the same thing.
I play this custom map for fun not because I want to watch high level pros play it. To watch pros play it would be about as exciting as a normal 1v1.
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On August 12 2012 04:24 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Should be played on TL Attack to see how many people a pro can handle. Can ten diamond players working together overcome a pro? Ten Players!?!?!? What on earth would ten diamond players be doing? Keep in mind Diamond is only one league below Masters...... The average mid to high diamond player usually has at least 100 APM. I would say having just 2 players could take on a lot of pros. One just for macro purposes and one for micro would be insane. Think of the possibilities of harassment and control if you didnt need to worry about macro.
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Hahaha, TOP macroing for MKP, you almost got me there buddy.
But seriously no, just doing one of the things a Starcraft game requires is completely boring and unimpressive as fuck. Doing everything at once to the best of your ability is the beauty of an RTS.
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