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On July 17 2012 02:37 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 02:36 Mattchew wrote: CAN SOMEONE READ WHAT I POSTED ON KATINA, AT THE VERY LEAST TO JUST TELL ME IM WRONG You are wrong. Katina alignment is non conclusive right now. Move on to palmar/mz/bh. Interesting defence, pawn. Given that Katina is in no way in danger of a lynch... Noted. Oh wait, do I need that?
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Blazinghand
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On July 17 2012 02:36 Mattchew wrote: CAN SOMEONE READ WHAT I POSTED ON KATINA, AT THE VERY LEAST TO JUST TELL ME IM WRONG
I think you have powerfully refuted Katina's case. I don't think Katina being wrong makes Katina scum, though-- Katina occasionally lurks but Katina also typically has thoughts on more than one player, and will post aggressively to respond to multiple players in the thread. Check her Liar Game filter for an example of her VT play: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=333034&user=248411 (bear in mind it was PM game though)
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Meapak you never replied to my post here. I don't expect much from the reply, but I do expect something
On July 16 2012 18:00 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2012 15:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 16 2012 15:43 Blazinghand wrote: To add to my previous post, which is unreasonably short: That's awfully irresponsible of you, M_Z. Are you FoSing him without calling him scum? Way to take any air whatosever out of your FoS. You're probably worried that you'll be told by your overlords that he's scum with you and you want an excuse not to vote him later.
##unvote ##vote: Meapak_Ziphh lulz didn't scroll. So apparently I need to define FoS. Stands for Finger of Suspicion. Gives a heads up to Chez that his current play isn't working and that he needs to change or it's lynch time. When I vote for someone, I want them to die and will work for that unless significant evidence can convince me otherwise. If you just throw votes around like you (and bugs -_-) are doing, they get the air taken out of them. My post was prompted by remembering Chez's previous gambit I saw him play. Either he continues to play scummy and we kill him, or he shapes up and plays nice. Obviously he could still be scum even if he shapes up but it'll be much harder for him to cause chaos if he's playing nice and we catch him later on. So do you think his play so far is indicative of him being mafia? If so, do you want him to change his behavior or do you want to lynch him? Do you always give people who you think may be mafia "heads up" so they can change their play? Moreover, do you think your "warning" will make him change his play? Hi sandroba, you around?
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Blazinghand
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I guess we'll have to see how she responds to Mattchew's case. I really think I've caught scum in his tracks with Syllo though so I'd rather focus on that-- this tree is far more likely to bear fruit.
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On July 17 2012 02:37 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 02:36 Mattchew wrote: CAN SOMEONE READ WHAT I POSTED ON KATINA, AT THE VERY LEAST TO JUST TELL ME IM WRONG You are wrong. Katina alignment is non conclusive right now. Move on to palmar/mz/bh/syllo/probulus.
ah I corrected that list for you ;-)
*stop going for palmar. All of you. That guy works best if you let him do his job. judge him based on his results not based on his playstyle.
+ On July 17 2012 02:27 Palmar wrote: Supersoft nailed it. MVP. I'm going to stop playing and start working on a bronze statue of him to erect in my bathroom.
this makes him the most hillarious player so far. We can't afford to lose him.
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"I'm the Jack and I rolechecked Ace. He's mafia." I'm the America and I am just launching a nuclear warhead on RebirthOfLegend. He's mafia. ##nuke RebirthOfLegend
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On July 17 2012 02:36 Mattchew wrote: CAN SOMEONE READ WHAT I POSTED ON KATINA, AT THE VERY LEAST TO JUST TELL ME IM WRONG
You're wrong
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On July 17 2012 02:42 syllogism wrote:Meapak you never replied to my post here. I don't expect much from the reply, but I do expect something Show nested quote +On July 16 2012 18:00 syllogism wrote:On July 16 2012 15:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 16 2012 15:43 Blazinghand wrote: To add to my previous post, which is unreasonably short: That's awfully irresponsible of you, M_Z. Are you FoSing him without calling him scum? Way to take any air whatosever out of your FoS. You're probably worried that you'll be told by your overlords that he's scum with you and you want an excuse not to vote him later.
##unvote ##vote: Meapak_Ziphh lulz didn't scroll. So apparently I need to define FoS. Stands for Finger of Suspicion. Gives a heads up to Chez that his current play isn't working and that he needs to change or it's lynch time. When I vote for someone, I want them to die and will work for that unless significant evidence can convince me otherwise. If you just throw votes around like you (and bugs -_-) are doing, they get the air taken out of them. My post was prompted by remembering Chez's previous gambit I saw him play. Either he continues to play scummy and we kill him, or he shapes up and plays nice. Obviously he could still be scum even if he shapes up but it'll be much harder for him to cause chaos if he's playing nice and we catch him later on. So do you think his play so far is indicative of him being mafia? YesIf so, do you want him to change his behavior or do you want to lynch him? I want him to change his behavior since the less shit that goes on in the thread the better, he can still be scum but the thread won't be a nightmare to read and we can simply catch him laterDo you always give people who you think may be mafia "heads up" so they can change their play? That's the point of FoS. I don't do it very often, check previous games Moreover, do you think your "warning" will make him change his play? It's important to note that the genesis of my original post stems from the PYP game where chez intentionally acted scummy and got away with it for days I saw him begin what looked like a similar strategy this game and I wanted to point it out so that people would pay attention and not just brush it off as "chez being chez." I have no idea if warning him will make him change his play. If he continues on with his current act then I'll start trying to get him lynched, if he stops then I'll focus on other targets for now. Even if he stops it doesn't preclude him being mafia.Hi sandroba, you around? In green
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On July 17 2012 02:12 HiroPro wrote: Katina, could you point me to something that you feel is Palmar's "usual" town play?
It's hard to find games when he smurfs all the time. It's even harder to find a game where he is town. I had a few posts but the tags got messed up. Go look at Mafia LIV, It's not much but again it's hard to find a lot on him but it's Palmar. Everyone knows how he plays. He's aggressive and opinionated. He will let you know if you are stupid or if he's mad at you. He usually keeps a low profile and avoids stepping on toes if he is Mafia. Once I recover from the annoyance that are tags I will go and find the posts again.
Note to self: Don't close tabs before making sure everything is good.
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On July 17 2012 02:43 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 02:37 sandroba wrote:On July 17 2012 02:36 Mattchew wrote: CAN SOMEONE READ WHAT I POSTED ON KATINA, AT THE VERY LEAST TO JUST TELL ME IM WRONG You are wrong. Katina alignment is non conclusive right now. Move on to palmar/mz/bh/syllo/probulus. ah I corrected that list for you ;-) * stop going for palmar. All of you. That guy works best if you let him do his job. judge him based on his results not based on his playstyle.+ Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 02:27 Palmar wrote: Supersoft nailed it. MVP. I'm going to stop playing and start working on a bronze statue of him to erect in my bathroom. this makes him the most hillarious player so far. We can't afford to lose him. Despite what he'll have you believe, Palmar is not allergic to contributing. Bolded part is extremely retarded, Palmar isn't good enough to justify giving special privileges to. Only player of that caliber in this game is foolishness and even so it'd be nice if he'd make an appearance soonish.
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Mattchew, I have no idea where that "case against me came from. I made one post and voted on who I thought was the most suspicious and you immediately jump all over me and assume I'm Mafia. WBG has that corner covered. I didn't know that giving my opinion on what's been going on is scummy. It's D1 a majority of the cases are going to be bad (Ex: Your case on me) Don't read into things that aren't there. I'm town. Move onto someone else that is actually scummy.
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Q-to-Z take care of either MZ or sandroba. Thanks man.
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I would be completely behind a Meapack lynch today. Even his most recent response to Syllo reeks of trying to look townie. I want him to change his behavior since the less shit that goes on in the thread the better, he can still be scum but the thread won't be a nightmare to read and we can simply catch him later This is the type of stuff people write so that they can look pro-town and look like they make sense. He seems to be trying to look sensible and not shitstorm causing which I feel is a common tactic used by scum to deflect attention from themselves.
I already quoted Prob on him being extremely passive and careful, and I think he has continued that since
I don't understand the Syllogism case despite reading BH's posts. This is why I asked Palmar to explain it to me which he hasn't. If anyone else would like to explain it to me that would be much appreciated
I think Prob has called out MZ for something I agree with to be scummy. Therefore at this moment I would not vote him over MZ.
I already said why I think BH is town
Right now I lean town on Palmar. I don't see anything scummy about his game play
My point with Katina is not just that she is wrong. It is the flaws in logic and the lack of reading she does when making her case against Palmar. These are things that scum katina does, town Katina may not always be right, but she makes a hell of a lot more sense then here
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On July 17 2012 02:54 Katina wrote: Mattchew, I have no idea where that "case against me came from. I made one post and voted on who I thought was the most suspicious and you immediately jump all over me and assume I'm Mafia. WBG has that corner covered. I didn't know that giving my opinion on what's been going on is scummy. It's D1 a majority of the cases are going to be bad (Ex: Your case on me) Don't read into things that aren't there. I'm town. Move onto someone else that is actually scummy. OMGUS -> Passive -> Deflection -> Passive -> OMGUS
SUPER COMBO
This is supposed to make me think you are town?
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so mattchew lemme get this right, I'm scummy because I "seems to be trying to look sensible and not shitstorm causing." Umm... duh so basically I'm scum because I'm playing protown? That's some pretty wicked logic there.
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On July 17 2012 03:09 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: so mattchew lemme get this right, I'm scummy because I "seems to be trying to look sensible and not shitstorm causing." Umm... duh so basically I'm scum because I'm playing protown? That's some pretty wicked logic there. cause you are playing an easy to fake pro-town without actually doing anything pro-town
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@ Mattchew
What are you talking about? You are the one making absolutely no sense. I know I'm an easy target to get mislynched but that's not going to happen today. You think that scummy people are town and people that aren't that scummy you are pushing for to get lynched. Your points against me are based off of nothing except the fact that your reads are different than mine. I'm trying to find scum and you just made your way onto my Mafia list with Palmar. You come out of nowhere and immediately jump all over one of my posts then nit pick at my response to you. The reasoning for your suspicions are bad and have close to nothing to back any of it up with. Most of what you say you just pulled out of thin air. You are making a sad attempt to do what WBG does in attempts to try and get me lynched.
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On July 17 2012 03:17 Katina wrote: @ Mattchew
What are you talking about? You are the one making absolutely no sense. I know I'm an easy target to get mislynched but that's not going to happen today. You think that scummy people are town and people that aren't that scummy you are pushing for to get lynched. Your points against me are based off of nothing except the fact that your reads are different than mine. I'm trying to find scum and you just made your way onto my Mafia list with Palmar. You come out of nowhere and immediately jump all over one of my posts then nit pick at my response to you. The reasoning for your suspicions are bad and have close to nothing to back any of it up with. Most of what you say you just pulled out of thin air. You are making a sad attempt to do what WBG does in attempts to try and get me lynched.
You literally haven't answered any of my points in my case against you and you still fail to even quote what I have wrote. I can't tell if you haven't read it or if you just don't know how to respond to the truth
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On July 17 2012 03:17 Katina wrote: @ Mattchew
What are you talking about? You are the one making absolutely no sense. I know I'm an easy target to get mislynched but that's not going to happen today. You think that scummy people are town and people that aren't that scummy you are pushing for to get lynched. Your points against me are based off of nothing except the fact that your reads are different than mine. I'm trying to find scum and you just made your way onto my Mafia list with Palmar. You come out of nowhere and immediately jump all over one of my posts then nit pick at my response to you. The reasoning for your suspicions are bad and have close to nothing to back any of it up with. Most of what you say you just pulled out of thin air. You are making a sad attempt to do what WBG does in attempts to try and get me lynched.
Doesn't wbg usually try to lynch you when you actually are scum....
I'll wait for your examples on Palmar - LIV told me pretty much nothing.
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On July 17 2012 03:13 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 03:09 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: so mattchew lemme get this right, I'm scummy because I "seems to be trying to look sensible and not shitstorm causing." Umm... duh so basically I'm scum because I'm playing protown? That's some pretty wicked logic there. cause you are playing an easy to fake pro-town without actually doing anything pro-town That's bullshit and you know it lol.
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