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It's really awesome that the arenas will be free, but I just don't get it... Basically the arenas were too profitable and brought so much money to the company that they will be free from now on?
Or does it mean MLG would make less money by selling PPV then they would get for making it free and selling advertisement with 50k people watching over 1k?
When you find something that works so well why not stick with it over consistenly changing it?
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On June 25 2012 13:16 Kammalleri wrote: It's really awesome that the arenas will be free, but I just don't get it... Basically the arenas were too profitable and brought so much money to the company that they will be free from now on?
Or does it mean MLG would make less money by selling PPV then they would get for making it free and selling advertisement with 50k people watching over 1k?
When you find something that works so well why not stick with it over consistenly changing it?
Some new sponsor money came in and gave them more money than we could with Arenas, that sponsor obviously wants advertisements.
With the sponsors they had, like a week ago, the PPV was more profitable.
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I was rather disappointed when I heard that the Arena events were going to become PPV, but I'm not sure whether I should be happy about this change. If it's changing because the Arena wasn't making enough money to be viable, then I'm worried about what that might mean for tournaments in the future. If we have the new sponsor to thank, then all is well.
I'm very much looking forward to getting to watch the next Arena event, since I can afford to now. MLG is always a good excuse to spend the weekend watching starcraft, if I ever need one
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On June 25 2012 13:18 Hnnngg wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2012 13:16 Kammalleri wrote: It's really awesome that the arenas will be free, but I just don't get it... Basically the arenas were too profitable and brought so much money to the company that they will be free from now on?
Or does it mean MLG would make less money by selling PPV then they would get for making it free and selling advertisement with 50k people watching over 1k?
When you find something that works so well why not stick with it over consistenly changing it? Some new sponsor money came in and gave them more money than we could with Arenas, that sponsor obviously wants advertisements. With the sponsors they had, like a week ago, the PPV was more profitable.
Thats for sure, but in the best scenario there will be both freemium and PPV.
The issue with MLG is theit main event will always be free and as exciting as the arenas are they are still qualifiers.
They can't really hype a huge event and make it PPV and get a sick turn out for the event to please the sponsors and make the PPV selling profitable as well.
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Ahhhh ok? Can't say I'm upset or anything because I don't have the money for the summer ones, but I thought they were going to stick with that business model. They must have done REALLY well with Anaheim.
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I had faith in sundance to be a good manager, i knew he didnt enjoy actually charging people and much prefered the sponsorship method wich is very effective, sure there still is payable option, but now they will have a ton more viewers which also makes them money cause of commercials ^^
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not enough people paying the premium to watch these mlgs = mlg make more money from ads + allowing people to watch for free?
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Doesn't really change much for me, as I have premium. lol, nice for the guys that have less money to spend tho.
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Is it possible they are making streams free to keep up with DreamHack?
New sponsors would enable the possibility, but from Sundance's glory from PPV in the past it did not seem like he would even consider the idea of free viewership.
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On June 25 2012 18:41 fumikey wrote: Is it possible they are making streams free to keep up with DreamHack?
New sponsors would enable the possibility, but from Sundance's glory from PPV in the past it did not seem like he would even consider the idea of free viewership.
He even said that he went the PPV route because for "e-Sports to grow, we should not be relying on sponsors'. I personally believe Sundance is full of BS.
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On June 25 2012 16:45 ThomasR wrote: not enough people paying the premium to watch these mlgs = mlg make more money from ads + allowing people to watch for free?
I'd guess it's more to do with what sponsors want (more viewers) than how much MLG makes or doesn't make.
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i think the freeium model works out the best for all partys users that dont want to pay get 480p and users that do want better quailty like me can have 720p or 1080p as long as its not overpriced $10-$15 dollars is in my range or like gomtv $70 dollars for all events i think is this format works well
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On June 25 2012 13:18 Hnnngg wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2012 13:16 Kammalleri wrote: It's really awesome that the arenas will be free, but I just don't get it... Basically the arenas were too profitable and brought so much money to the company that they will be free from now on?
Or does it mean MLG would make less money by selling PPV then they would get for making it free and selling advertisement with 50k people watching over 1k?
When you find something that works so well why not stick with it over consistenly changing it? Some new sponsor money came in and gave them more money than we could with Arenas, that sponsor obviously wants advertisements. With the sponsors they had, like a week ago, the PPV was more profitable.
If PPV was making them more money than free stream + advertisements it would still be PPV. You don't make so much money that you don't need to make more, like Sundance said, he is trying to run a business. It's in his best interest for you to think this was all done for the hugznkizzes.
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On June 25 2012 13:16 Kammalleri wrote: It's really awesome that the arenas will be free, but I just don't get it... Basically the arenas were too profitable and brought so much money to the company that they will be free from now on?
Or does it mean MLG would make less money by selling PPV then they would get for making it free and selling advertisement with 50k people watching over 1k?
When you find something that works so well why not stick with it over consistenly changing it? Obviously Arenas where doing bad and they now made it ''free'' with some excuse to not lose face.
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Too late for me, to be honest. When they changed the streaming to all P2V, I stopped watching SC2, and the flame is gone. Good for everyone else, of course. Good on you, MLG.
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On June 25 2012 21:05 Icky wrote: Too late for me, to be honest. When they changed the streaming to all P2V, I stopped watching SC2, and the flame is gone. Good for everyone else, of course. Good on you, MLG.
you completely stopped watching starcraft 2 because one tournament out of the dozens that are happening all the time made some of their events PPV?
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