On October 28 2006 06:01 diehilde wrote: i dont really understand why u are all so impressed by anytimes 3rd game... from my point of view it looked like gorush just plain sucked. sure his pressure at the start was good, but i didnt really understand why he didnt expo and tech lurx and go for a macro game after like he killed the forge or sometime around there... even to me as a low lvl zerg user it was blatantly obvious he wouldnt be able to break anytimes defense and I doubted his sanity when he attacked with like 2-3 control grps of hydras against like 15 speedlots and mucho cannons. I totally saw that army being raped before the first hydra moved in t.t
Actually, you don't know much about starcraft. GoRush put all his money into hydras and had a good containment. If you watched the game, then you would see that AnyTime barely survived that attack. And once the cannons are gone, then hydras would most likely own the zealots. GoRush had a good timing, before the high templars came out. AnyTime's defense was just too good. Don't compare yourself to a progamer. -_-;;
dude actually i know nuff about starcraft.. my mainrace is zerg and i often play mass hydra against toss fe.. and just from looking at the situation i instantly knew that it wasnt nearly enough to break the toss defense. if it was a situation in one of my games i surely wouldnt have attacked. i dunno if u watched the same game but he didnt hold it off "barely". unless holding an attack off "barely" means u can steamroll ur zerg opponent after u fend off the attack just like that.. im afraid that only happens if the zerg army gets raped and not hold off "barely"...
edit: just rewatched, was 15 speedlots + 9 Cannons vs ~30 Hyds + 3 Muts.. so unless toss totally fucks up his zealot control and runs outta cannon range i dont think zerg has a chance.
On October 28 2006 08:00 diehilde wrote: dude actually i know nuff about starcraft.. my mainrace is zerg and i often play mass hydra against toss fe.. and just from looking at the situation i instantly knew that it wasnt nearly enough to break the toss defense. if it was a situation in one of my games i surely wouldnt have attacked. i dunno if u watched the same game but he didnt hold it off "barely". unless holding an attack off "barely" means u can steamroll ur zerg opponent after u fend off the attack just like that.. im afraid that only happens if the zerg army gets raped and not hold off "barely"...
edit: just rewatched, was 15 speedlots + 9 Cannons vs ~30 Hyds + 3 Muts.. so unless toss totally fucks up his zealot control and runs outta cannon range i dont think zerg has a chance.
umm well the zerg is eventually fucked in the long run due to the fact taht toss econ > zerg econ
Those games were so much fun to watch. I'm loving this OSL. At first, I was just excited seeing Anytime and nal_rA playing, but every game/series is turning out to be really fun to watch.
I really enjoyed watching Nada play the Impossible Vulture Control map, haha.
On October 28 2006 10:47 Purind wrote: Those games were so much fun to watch. I'm loving this OSL. At first, I was just excited seeing Anytime and nal_rA playing, but every game/series is turning out to be really fun to watch.
I really enjoyed watching Nada play the Impossible Vulture Control map, haha.
On October 28 2006 10:47 Purind wrote: Those games were so much fun to watch. I'm loving this OSL. At first, I was just excited seeing Anytime and nal_rA playing, but every game/series is turning out to be really fun to watch.
I really enjoyed watching Nada play the Impossible Vulture Control map, haha.
On October 28 2006 08:00 diehilde wrote: dude actually i know nuff about starcraft.. my mainrace is zerg and i often play mass hydra against toss fe.. and just from looking at the situation i instantly knew that it wasnt nearly enough to break the toss defense. if it was a situation in one of my games i surely wouldnt have attacked. i dunno if u watched the same game but he didnt hold it off "barely". unless holding an attack off "barely" means u can steamroll ur zerg opponent after u fend off the attack just like that.. im afraid that only happens if the zerg army gets raped and not hold off "barely"...
edit: just rewatched, was 15 speedlots + 9 Cannons vs ~30 Hyds + 3 Muts.. so unless toss totally fucks up his zealot control and runs outta cannon range i dont think zerg has a chance.
Actually, the reason why GoRush was steamrolled was because of storms. GoRush's timing was good in the sense that it was before high templars came out.
GoRush's main intent was to break through using hydralisks. So, by making only a few hydralisks and giving the illusion of using mutalisks in the beginning, GoRush tried to play AnyTime and make him spend money on creating anti-air units, such as more corsairs or dragoons.
The only reason why this failed was because of AnyTime's good sense and perfect scouting. If he had gotten scared of mutalisks, he would have wasted cannons in his base or near the minerals, or would have teched faster instead of just creating zealots. If AnyTime had taken the bait and created more dragoons and corsairs, then Gorush would have won.
If you see a lair/hydra den + spire, a likely tactic is to go lurkers while sniping down observers. Mass zealots isn't a good way to counter that, yet AnyTime was not fooled.
Why I'm saying this is because you say that GoRush sucked. -_-;;
On OGN broadcast games, a statistic was made from 11 games for Peaks: Protoss vs. Zerg : 100% Maybe GoRush thought that ending the game quickly was a better gamble to win than drawing it out and following the bad statistic for ZvP.
GoRush went allin, if it had worked people had went like "omg gorush owned anytime", since it didnt people are like "wtf did gorush attack all that stuff ?"
You need to realize he was commited the moment he stoped making drones.
On October 28 2006 10:47 Purind wrote: Those games were so much fun to watch. I'm loving this OSL. At first, I was just excited seeing Anytime and nal_rA playing, but every game/series is turning out to be really fun to watch.
I really enjoyed watching Nada play the Impossible Vulture Control map, haha.
When does it show him playing that?
It's something he'd do, though.
Have you a) Seen the game? b) Played the vulture control map?
If you've done both, my post was a joke, making the connection between Nada's ling sniping and the ling sniping involved in the map. I didn't think anyone would take my post literally.