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On May 29 2012 05:53 jaj22 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 05:22 EchelonTee wrote: Something to note; almost all people have said "I would be down with killing Sinensis!". Some have said the same about SnB, but many have said "I am sort of suspicious, but want more info first".
Some players who haven't said "I would be down with killing Sinensis!". Probably not a complete list: papapanda: Ignored the issue, despite mentioning BH, Grush and Sinensis and having played LIV. austinmcc: Very hedgy post on Grush vs Sinensis. Supersoft: Ignored the issue. Hyaach: Doesn't want policy lynch, but ignored Sinensis question otherwise. Toad: Thinks Sinensis's play is too bold for a mafia. Plus all the lurkers who have said nothing about anything. austin and toad said they didn't think they were down with Sinensis, but they gave reasons. I posted 4 people in my analysis who said they didn't want to lynch SnB because 1. he's easy to read as town and 2. need more information. I see a disconnect between the two bandwagons.
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On May 29 2012 03:51 strongandbig wrote:Time for a little bit of analysis before I have to get back to work. My Finger of Suspicion points currently at supersoft. Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 06:00 supersoft wrote:On May 28 2012 05:55 Toadesstern wrote:On May 28 2012 05:49 kitaman27 wrote: Lets end the discussion right now.
Toad is our pardoner.
It's the best of both worlds. It ensures we don't have a scum pardoner, which is the more dangerous of the two roles and it protects us from a mayor lyncher. If you're town toad, then great we denied the role. If not, then we don't really care if you would prefer mayor. denying that role is utterly useless. A mafia can't use it before LYLO or he's dead. Both mayor and vice-thingy are highly likely to die early on, at least mayor for sure. Even if mafia gets that role they can't use it because they're trading it for a 1v1 which I am happy to take. Why is everyone so scared about the pardoner. That role is completly useless no matter of alignment. And this is actually something i agree with. The electionroles in this game are basically pretty meaningless. This pardonerguy and this mayor. Pfff i mean, they will die before LYLO anyway so there is really nothing to worry about. This is not a good town attitude. As has been discussed, these roles are super important for town - each of them can pretty much fuck up an entire cycle by denying town info, plus there's the mayor's double vote.
yes bla super important bla
On May 29 2012 03:51 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 03:03 supersoft wrote: My strongest townread is forumite and therefor i vote him for office. I think everyone should do the same. Result will be, that most likely townplayers are in this office and not some players you guys expect to win the game for you. Btw this office with no bodyguards is no office we want to vote the players in, who are in danger of getting shot tonight. I <3 forumite and I agree that he's probably town, but this is a terrible plan. If everyone just votes for their "strongest town read" instead of for one of the actual candidates, then the votes are likely to get very spread out giving mafia a good chance to swing the election by coordinating, either to get one of them elected or just to avoid getting someone they're scared of or who's on the right track elected.
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On May 29 2012 03:51 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2012 18:38 supersoft wrote:On May 27 2012 18:28 Zealos wrote: Hi guys, I'm a vanilla townie, and I'm gonna try not to get too emotionally attached when I play this game, to avoid cluttering. Let's all try and chill, and play nice together, because arguing is not finding scum. Also, in a game this big, can we try to keep posting concise and simple, so the pages don't get into their thousands.
I'm currently happy with an ET mayor. From what I know of him, he may not be the best townie in TL, but he's consistent and seems to do a good job of staying cool and hunting scum.
I'm on the "Pardoner is bad" boat too, but I'm not sure the best way to deal with it at the moment, but I'm open to ideas.
Not starting looking for scum yet, but as a start.
@Blazinghand: Do you think you've been helpful so far this game? @ET: Who would you vote for Mayor if not yourself? @Mattchew: Do you think the arguments going on are indicative of people being scum, or is it a case of frustrated egos?
why do you claim right now? Lol. Kenpachi'd by the kenpachi copycat. And in case anyone doesn't think this works, I got caught by BC with it in SS mafia. It does work, probably because claiming VT is suspicious and weird behavior that scum think they can gain towncred for by calling out.
Actually i was once upon a time called out for claiming VT in this prison batman mafia thing Ahm one more thing: It's super annoying that you talk about some SS mafia while you call me SS and while SS originally is the name of a nazi terrororganisation. wtf. I don't want to be called like these idiots.
On May 29 2012 03:51 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 05:58 supersoft wrote:On May 28 2012 05:52 VisceraEyes wrote: I don't share Toadesstern's reservations about ET. I think he's been fairly open and honest, and I don't see how those things can be construed as 'manipulative'. While it's true that some of his points about "The State of TL Towns" is superficially easy to say as scum, you have to bear in mind the motivation for making such a post. First of all, he now has to be held accountable for any style of posting that goes against this philosophy...if he starts wigging out and being hyper-aggressive then we can point to his campaign post and say "?!".
Add to that the fact that by and large I agree with most of what he's pushing and I'm willing to give him a shot. I think that if he really is scum, it's going to be hard to hide that fact if he's given 2 votes and a free lynch today - which he's promised to use by 'scumhunting'...another factor we can hold him to come the end of the day.
I don't think these things are "easy for mafia" to say at all, and I think Toadesstern is the one being manipulative here.
##FoS: Toadesstern
If you really are about to be "confirmed" * then you're going to need to step up your game sir. Put more thought into your accusations than a tertiary glance if you hope to be of any use before you're "probably targeted by n2 or n3". good example for a completely nontelling post. You FoS Toadesstern?! because you disagree with him regarding this ET guy? What is your plan?! What do you want? Toad claimed Mason; he reacted kind of okay when i pressured him (regarding that he's mason his reaction actually is okay). Please, make a plan and dont pressure around randomly. We got everything from toad he has to offer right now. Badluck he seems to be mason and we forced him to claim that. This also is a bit of an odd post. Why does the fact that Toad claimed mason change SS's impression of his townplay? SS had some really strong reads on Toad, saying things like "I know your townplay." More importantly, SS's points on Toad were 100% right - saying "elect me because I'm unreadable" and "I will magically kill scum on day 1" like toad did are super suspicious! I tend to agree with many people that this leans towards Toad being third party. So why did SS back off here?
So you think Toad and I are scum together? Or aren't we? Am I scum and he's thirdparty? How do your theorys fit together?
On May 29 2012 03:51 strongandbig wrote:
Also, how did we "force" Toad to claim anything? There was literally no reason for Toad to claim some kind of nonstandard target-changing un-roleblockable "manipulation-proof" (wtf?) mason role, as part of his campaign for Mayor.
This reads to me either like SS and Toad are scum buddies trying to distance themselves and got too far, or (more likely) like a scum SS saw an opportunity to gain town cred by making an actual good case on a player who was not being towny but wasn't on his scum team, then backing off when he realized that the presence of third parties like a lyncher hurts town and probably helps scum.
k. I make a good case and therefor I am scum. Great logic.
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dammit, my case got semi-buried. Read if you haven't plox.
MZ, opinions on the lynch as it's proceeding?
Going to LoL. Will be around for deadline.
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OK, I had a look at the main candidates and I like Wiggles slightly more than ET. I agree with him that the vice-leader role is a bit more powerful, since it sounds like the leader only controls the day 1 lynch. The double vote is cool and all, but that power doesn't seem as important. however, as people have mentioned, the pardoner will become more and more important as the game goes on, and I'd like that in the hands of someone who I think will use it in a pro-town way. And i understand why he wants to go for that role.
While I wouldn't mind if they went the other way, I'd like to honour that request. Judging by the votes and the fact that the guy who comes second gets it, I'll be voting for ET. I'm ok with either way, but with the thought of having Wiggles as second, that would mean I'd like ET to win the election
##vote: EchelonTee
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Note: SlOosh will be taking over the Nightpost for tonight as I have to go out. In the event that the unspeakable happens and he is unable to make it, I will post it as soon as I get home, which will be about 1 or 1.5 hours after the deadline. I will NOT count votes that take place after the deadline.
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On May 29 2012 06:04 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 03:51 strongandbig wrote:Time for a little bit of analysis before I have to get back to work. My Finger of Suspicion points currently at supersoft. On May 28 2012 06:00 supersoft wrote:On May 28 2012 05:55 Toadesstern wrote:On May 28 2012 05:49 kitaman27 wrote: Lets end the discussion right now.
Toad is our pardoner.
It's the best of both worlds. It ensures we don't have a scum pardoner, which is the more dangerous of the two roles and it protects us from a mayor lyncher. If you're town toad, then great we denied the role. If not, then we don't really care if you would prefer mayor. denying that role is utterly useless. A mafia can't use it before LYLO or he's dead. Both mayor and vice-thingy are highly likely to die early on, at least mayor for sure. Even if mafia gets that role they can't use it because they're trading it for a 1v1 which I am happy to take. Why is everyone so scared about the pardoner. That role is completly useless no matter of alignment. And this is actually something i agree with. The electionroles in this game are basically pretty meaningless. This pardonerguy and this mayor. Pfff i mean, they will die before LYLO anyway so there is really nothing to worry about. This is not a good town attitude. As has been discussed, these roles are super important for town - each of them can pretty much fuck up an entire cycle by denying town info, plus there's the mayor's double vote. yes bla super important bla Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 03:51 strongandbig wrote:On May 29 2012 03:03 supersoft wrote: My strongest townread is forumite and therefor i vote him for office. I think everyone should do the same. Result will be, that most likely townplayers are in this office and not some players you guys expect to win the game for you. Btw this office with no bodyguards is no office we want to vote the players in, who are in danger of getting shot tonight. I <3 forumite and I agree that he's probably town, but this is a terrible plan. If everyone just votes for their "strongest town read" instead of for one of the actual candidates, then the votes are likely to get very spread out giving mafia a good chance to swing the election by coordinating, either to get one of them elected or just to avoid getting someone they're scared of or who's on the right track elected. wrong Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 03:51 strongandbig wrote:On May 27 2012 18:38 supersoft wrote:On May 27 2012 18:28 Zealos wrote: Hi guys, I'm a vanilla townie, and I'm gonna try not to get too emotionally attached when I play this game, to avoid cluttering. Let's all try and chill, and play nice together, because arguing is not finding scum. Also, in a game this big, can we try to keep posting concise and simple, so the pages don't get into their thousands.
I'm currently happy with an ET mayor. From what I know of him, he may not be the best townie in TL, but he's consistent and seems to do a good job of staying cool and hunting scum.
I'm on the "Pardoner is bad" boat too, but I'm not sure the best way to deal with it at the moment, but I'm open to ideas.
Not starting looking for scum yet, but as a start.
@Blazinghand: Do you think you've been helpful so far this game? @ET: Who would you vote for Mayor if not yourself? @Mattchew: Do you think the arguments going on are indicative of people being scum, or is it a case of frustrated egos?
why do you claim right now? Lol. Kenpachi'd by the kenpachi copycat. And in case anyone doesn't think this works, I got caught by BC with it in SS mafia. It does work, probably because claiming VT is suspicious and weird behavior that scum think they can gain towncred for by calling out. Actually i was once upon a time called out for claiming VT in this prison batman mafia thing Ahm one more thing: It's super annoying that you talk about some SS mafia while you call me SS and while SS originally is the name of a nazi terrororganisation. wtf. I don't want to be called like these idiots. Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 03:51 strongandbig wrote:On May 28 2012 05:58 supersoft wrote:On May 28 2012 05:52 VisceraEyes wrote: I don't share Toadesstern's reservations about ET. I think he's been fairly open and honest, and I don't see how those things can be construed as 'manipulative'. While it's true that some of his points about "The State of TL Towns" is superficially easy to say as scum, you have to bear in mind the motivation for making such a post. First of all, he now has to be held accountable for any style of posting that goes against this philosophy...if he starts wigging out and being hyper-aggressive then we can point to his campaign post and say "?!".
Add to that the fact that by and large I agree with most of what he's pushing and I'm willing to give him a shot. I think that if he really is scum, it's going to be hard to hide that fact if he's given 2 votes and a free lynch today - which he's promised to use by 'scumhunting'...another factor we can hold him to come the end of the day.
I don't think these things are "easy for mafia" to say at all, and I think Toadesstern is the one being manipulative here.
##FoS: Toadesstern
If you really are about to be "confirmed" * then you're going to need to step up your game sir. Put more thought into your accusations than a tertiary glance if you hope to be of any use before you're "probably targeted by n2 or n3". good example for a completely nontelling post. You FoS Toadesstern?! because you disagree with him regarding this ET guy? What is your plan?! What do you want? Toad claimed Mason; he reacted kind of okay when i pressured him (regarding that he's mason his reaction actually is okay). Please, make a plan and dont pressure around randomly. We got everything from toad he has to offer right now. Badluck he seems to be mason and we forced him to claim that. This also is a bit of an odd post. Why does the fact that Toad claimed mason change SS's impression of his townplay? SS had some really strong reads on Toad, saying things like "I know your townplay." More importantly, SS's points on Toad were 100% right - saying "elect me because I'm unreadable" and "I will magically kill scum on day 1" like toad did are super suspicious! I tend to agree with many people that this leans towards Toad being third party. So why did SS back off here? So you think Toad and I are scum together? Or aren't we? Am I scum and he's thirdparty? How do your theorys fit together? Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 03:51 strongandbig wrote:
Also, how did we "force" Toad to claim anything? There was literally no reason for Toad to claim some kind of nonstandard target-changing un-roleblockable "manipulation-proof" (wtf?) mason role, as part of his campaign for Mayor.
This reads to me either like SS and Toad are scum buddies trying to distance themselves and got too far, or (more likely) like a scum SS saw an opportunity to gain town cred by making an actual good case on a player who was not being towny but wasn't on his scum team, then backing off when he realized that the presence of third parties like a lyncher hurts town and probably helps scum. k. I make a good case and therefor I am scum. Great logic.
did you ever thought of the most reasonable possibility? I am town and he is town. I attacked him because his first post bugged me. I know him fairly well, we're both german and we were masoned together some games. His following posts were exactly like i expected a worried Toad who realizes that he didnt play optimal to react. And most important he claimed a role. Tomorrow when he has used his role, we will have a lot of information about him. I really don't need more. I don't want to lynch a player at d1 who has the potential to solve the endgame of a mafiagame with reasonable logic. Especially if I have this much information already.
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I, like most others in this thread, am seeing ET and Wiggles as the most viable mayor/VP pairing. Wiggles, in particular, has been very reasonable and articulate, something that the mayor, as the leader of the town, should be. Additionally, from what has been said, I trust Wiggles' analysis (at least early game) much more than I do ET's.
As a result, I'm voting Wiggles.
##vote: Wiggles
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I'm going to respond to ET's case here, but I'd appreciate it if Wiggles also read it.
On May 29 2012 06:00 EchelonTee wrote:While I think Zealos/Mattchew are scummy for a few reasons, I'd rather hold off on them for a few reasons. You guys better step up your play if you're town. RE: StrongandbigThis case is late (which will be sure to set of Wiggles' alarm bells :p) and ninja'd for the most part, but here are my reasons for wanting to lynch SnB. His campaign post has been already pointed out as strange. Why state "I am running for mayor b/c blue role is fun"? It appears that he doesn't care to run for mayor to help town; even when townies run for mayor off of bad reasoning, they at least appear focused in some aspect. SnB's campaign feels like a small conglomarate of generic reasons ("I will make cases. I will use pardoner role if I think it's ok but I will discuss it") that could easily be faked by a newbie scum. While generally I would think newbie scum (he has had around 4 games now though? he's breaking out) would be reluctant to go for a role, note that his original election campaign was only for the pardoner. The pardoner role has much less accountability (no lynch, no extra vote), while still having some sway. I could see his vet scum buddies not wanting to go for election b/c no bodyguards, and instead let SnB go for it.
If you think I'm being "let go for an election" by veteran scum buddies, don't you think that they would have told me there was no pardoner election?
On May 29 2012 06:00 EchelonTee wrote:The majority of his filter is filled with posts like this, posts that don't really talk about much. While it is true that I have a long filter chock full of setup speculation, talking about general shit, etc., since I have a higher post count, I have the time to both post about that stuff, and post reads/opinions. In SnB's case, with his limited posting he has only posted one case, but worse so, he has posted very little opinions about anybody. He states that he thinks me and Wiggles look townie. Thanks bro, but that's about it.
You're ignoring the whole blazinghand thing. Seriously, do you think I should have done something other than just wait for that to blow over?
On May 29 2012 06:00 EchelonTee wrote:He states that he thinks supersoft is scummy, builds case. While his case isn't bad, it consists of "this turn by supersoft is not logical, therefore he is scum". Read this last paragraph from his case. + Show Spoiler +This reads to me either like SS and Toad are scum buddies trying to distance themselves and got too far, or (more likely) like a scum SS saw an opportunity to gain town cred by making an actual good case on a player who was not being towny but wasn't on his scum team, then backing off when he realized that the presence of third parties like a lyncher hurts town and probably helps scum. It doesn't take much to see that the logic there is pretty convoluted. "looks like a scum SS saw he could make town cred, but backed off when he realized toad could be lyncher"? ...
Do you disagree with my actual interpretation though? Or just think it's "convoluted"?
On May 29 2012 06:00 EchelonTee wrote:And even now, when given an opportunity to take a stance on someone (Sinensis), he is still waffly. No me gusta.
So what? You want me to say "yeah he's totally 100% scum lynch him instead of me?" I'm posting my honest opinion.
I'm on the verge of being lynched, it's not like hedging my bets is keeping me out of the spotlight or anything like that.
Obviously, I think that sinensis is a better lynch target than I am. He's got a very good chance of flipping mafia, and his play hasn't been helping town at all. It's just that after how the Holy Roman Empire game was thrown away by the last townie, I can also kind of empathize with him wanting to get revenge.
I also think Mattchew is a better lynch target than I am; his play is drastically different than normal, but we know he's paying enough attention to the thread to vote and tell us that he will be paying even less attention starting tomorrow.
I also think supersoft is a better lynch target than I am. You yourself said my case was not bad, plus check out his response to it. Totally willing to engage in discussion about his actions and posts, right?
On May 29 2012 06:00 EchelonTee wrote:Filter analysis seems to corroborate his scumminess. His filter from Wheel of Fortune. He talks about setup speculation in an extensive manner along with a plan (that code thing). Has opinions on several people D1. His filter from Space Station. Doesn't take stances on almost anyone, doesn't build much cases. Disclaimer: one of his first games.
This is partly due to the fact that this is an election game, but mostly due to me not wanting to shit up the thread with you and blazinghand.
On May 29 2012 06:00 EchelonTee wrote:Lastly, the case doesn't feel too "easy". This is more of an abstract thing, but when a lynch seems to be proceeding too easily (tons of people agreeing easily except for one or more so mavericks), then it feels like a mislynch. Think Janaan from TL Mafia LI; who actually opposed that lynch? SnB has had some people indicate that they see SnB as "null" or "not scummy enough" to lynch atm. However, since the progenitors of the case are people that I currently trust, I have reason to believe that the resistance is healthy, and the case is strong. I will kill SnB if elected. Alternatively, if Wiggles is elected I hope he will pick SnB over Sinensis.
I.... don't really think this makes much sense. I'm more likely to be scum because people think I'm less likely to be scum?
I mean, I realize you could be saying that the people doubting the bandwagon on me are my scummy buddies, I guess. But we both know that would be terrible play for them, and it's very unlikely that they would do this on day1 rather than just try and get themselves town cred. But that's just wifom anyway, so whatever.
But seriously ET, think this through for a minute.
You're saying I'm noob scum making obvious mistakes, but at the same time that the case on me is uncertain and my mistakes aren't so obvious that it's easy, so therefore it's better? I don't think that makes sense.
Either I'm a noob scum, who ran a retarded election for a position that isn't actually elected, then explicitly told people not to vote for anyone who was only running for that position. Who attacked a couple of players' campaigns for mayor and then backed off when one of them got emotional about it. Who could have taken the opportunity to push for the easier lynch on sinensis but instead tried to get people to look at supersoft for no strategically sound reason. Who even then when given a second chance to attack sinensis, didn't firmly say he was scum.
Or I'm a new-ish townie, who came out of a game with a similar election and made a simple mistake, who didn't want to shit up the thread when blazinghand exploded at me, and who is trying to get people to look at the players I think are scummy.
The latter of these two is both much simpler and true. I'm town.
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Also I'll be changing my vote away from the person who is playing LoL instead of reading my response to his case, and to the person who didn't say they would kill me no matter what before I had a chance to respond.
##unvote ##vote: MrWiggles
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I didn't say I would kill you no matter what blah blah blah, and I'm reading your response lol. Though voting for Wiggles is just fine.
I also don't think your case on supersoft is good.
My biggest point on you is the whole "no opinions on people".
Any other lynch candidates?
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Of all the filter I read so far, Hyaach catches my attention. He has played a few games before, surely he know being neutral is a telltale sign of mafia. Hyaach wanted to abstain from today's vote, and as of now, his vote is still on Meepak. In you're last post you mention MrWiggles as a good candidate, are you going to act on that?
It is important to vote for someone who is planing to lynch a person who you believe to be scum. But even more important to vote for someone who you think is town. Remember, the first lynch is just a part of the President's power, the two votes counts for the rest of the game, which is much more important than the first day. So for myself, after reading ET's post, I will put my vote on MrWiggles. I think he has shown his ability to analyse others slightly better than ET. I also want to say I also support ET and thanks for your analysis.
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On May 29 2012 06:44 EchelonTee wrote: I didn't say I would kill you no matter what blah blah blah, and I'm reading your response lol. Though voting for Wiggles is just fine.
I also don't think your case on supersoft is good.
My biggest point on you is the whole "no opinions on people".
Any other lynch candidates?
Other than Mattchew and Sinensis? (And supersoft, but I'm assuming he's the one who you want other ones than.)
Not really. There's a lot of lurking going on, but it's pretty much impossible to just pull one out of that pile. There's three reasons I pulled out Mattchew: 1. we know he usually doesn't play like this, 2. he said he'd be gone starting tomorrow, yet here he is having barely posted all weekend, and 3. he is paying enough attention to vote and comment on the candidates, but not enough to actually say anything.
But basically, no I don't have any other lynch candidates from those three. I also think Toad is lying about being a mason; his roleclaim doesn't make any sense, and neither do his reasons for claiming. He is behaving like a lyncher would, and if people think that's fine to leave alive then he doesn't make sense as a day1 lynch, since he chose to claim mason and we can confirm that.
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Side note:
ET where the fuck was your team in the TL Dota2 Open?
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I was looking over the voting thread, since I have an obvious interest in it at the moment.
Kenpachi, Meeple, phagga, alderan, cwave, MidnightGladius and FirmTofu all have not yet voted, and there are two hours left.
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On May 29 2012 06:06 EchelonTee wrote:dammit, my case got semi-buried. Read if you haven't plox. MZ, opinions on the lynch as it's proceeding? Going to LoL. Will be around for deadline. Lynches I would be happy with: sinensis, and kita.
This case looks alright, I personally haven't been set off by anything that S&B said yet but if you get elected then I don't really have a problem with you axing him. Just because I haven't really been paying attention to him doesn't mean there's not something there.
I would like to know why you're holding off on mattchew, depending on how things shape up here towards the end he's probably gonna be one of my d2 pushes.
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Where the hell is Wiggles anyway? I don't want to vote ET now because I think SnB is town (thx for lecture, MZ).
Do I take it that anyone who's currently voting ET is fine with a SnB lynch?
@Sinensis: You're not going to post any reads at all? Your campaign is long-dead and none of the contenders are interested in your policy lynch, so what the hell are you doing? Are you going to keep pushing Grush for the rest of the game?
@SToFu: Who do you think is scum?
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Sorry for not being around the last little bit, I was doing garden work. :p
After the last few posts by strongandbig, and Sinensis' complete lack of addressing anything relevant in the game, I think I'm leaning more towards lynching Sinensis than strongandbig right now, if I'm elected mayor.
There's been a lot of discussion in the thread, as well as several posts made against Sinensis, but instead of addressing them, he continues his "lynch grush" posting. The two frontrunners for the election right now, are myself and ET, and neither of us has expressed much interest in lynching grush. Instead, we have both presented alternate targets for the lynch. However, Sinensis does not address any of these targets. If neither of the candidates for mayor are going to lynch grush, then why wouldn't he talk about any other targets, or even anything else that's been happening in the thread at all? Sinensis is exhibiting exactly the kind of behaviour that I find scummy, focusing solely on grush at the expense of everything else that's happening. It gives him an excuse to not contribute to the game, and to not have to post about anything else.
If elected mayor, I'm planning on lynching Sinensis.
Also, I need to vote, so: ##Vote: EchelonTee
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I'll also be around until the deadline if someone wants to discuss anything or ask me anything.
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On May 29 2012 02:55 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Also, some people have commented on either thinking that sinensis or strongandbig aren't the best lynch for today. However, between the two, who do you think is the better lynch? If you don't think either of them are good lynches, who do you think is? This is your chance to get your thoughts out in the thread and let us know what you think. Also, try to give reasons too, not just a name. Maybe it was a hivemind thing about BH and grush, but I think it was weird how they said the same thing, sinensis right after.
He´s not my first lynch-pick though.
On May 29 2012 03:03 supersoft wrote: My strongest townread is forumite and therefor i vote him for office. I think everyone should do the same. Result will be, that most likely townplayers are in this office and not some players you guys expect to win the game for you. Btw this office with no bodyguards is no office we want to vote the players in, who are in danger of getting shot tonight. Thanks, but your vote is wasted, I won´t get enough votes to get elected for anything.
On May 29 2012 05:54 Sinensis wrote: I honestly think grush is still the best target. I don't know where all this useful play people keep talking about is happening. All I have seen him do is count lurkers to make his contentless posts seem more substantial. I would be pretty sad if we lost someone who is actually posting when grush could have been in their place.
I think it is suspicious that BlazingHand isn't still pushing for a grush vote too. This is something I think he would do if he was town, especially since grush hasn't really mentioned being targeted yet. BlazingHand has a reputation for pushing people until they just stop responding. Instead he backed off just as soon as I started to get attention for it.
So, not changing my vote. BH realized a policy lynch is bad after grush started posting marginally usefull things. We don´t want a policy-lynch, we want to lynch scum, or at least scummy.
On May 29 2012 04:44 EchelonTee wrote: What do people think of Zealos? He looks pretty bad to me atm, though I might be skewed b/c I recently saw him play scum. There´s my first scumpick!
Zealos is scum and needs to die.
On May 29 2012 04:40 EchelonTee wrote: Oh stop toad, I am not scum. If you end up being town, I will lol heartily in end game, because it's clear that you had a preconception that I was scummy, and have been tunneling me since. ET, I´m disappoint
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