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On March 18 2012 10:19 xsksc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2012 10:17 johnnywup wrote: Because I don't want people to think that I'm saying he's definitely town. If people think I *know* he's scum, then I'd be a top candidate for lynch... This is my first time playing and I'm not good at articulating what I'm thinking.
I'm vanilla town, if that changes anyones opinion. Why would it change my opinnion? My problem is with your posting, not your role, lol. I didn't think it would, but I figure I'll just say my role now that the eye is on me.
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i think the nolynch is supposed to be bold so i'll redo it
##vote no-lynch
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Okay, claim after one vote. That's not doing you any favors either.
I think we got a winner here guys. Ready, set, VOTE!
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You seem pretty eager getting everyone to lynch me, VE.
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Then why are you eager to lynch me?
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On March 18 2012 10:17 jcarlsoniv wrote: ##vote johnnywup
I shall join VE on this. My gut supa stronk.
Last post before I go out. DON'T HIDE YE IRISH SPIRIT Mind explaining your vote?
I think that right now you guys are jumping on an easy bandwagon. johnnywup is a new player and this is his first game. Newbie mafias are more likely to lurk and be wishy washy with their post as you say. But he did take a stance that he thought jackal was town, which means that he is not avoiding the issue at all.
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On March 18 2012 10:21 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay, claim after one vote. That's not doing you any favors either.
I think we got a winner here guys. Ready, set, VOTE!
While I certainly dislike what I've seen of him so far, I hesitated to add a vote to my post on him, simply because I'm not sure if he's posting that way because he's a brand new townie, or if there is a scum motive to his posts. I don't think it's sensible to call for a bandwagon on him THIS early in the game, give it some time (we have practically the whole day left). If nothing much has changed when it comes to lynch time, sure, I'm totally up for lynching fuck out of him. No need to rush into things though, let's use all this time we've got!
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ebwop That should say lynching the fuck out of him. extremely tired -_-
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On March 18 2012 10:28 Nemesis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2012 10:17 jcarlsoniv wrote: ##vote johnnywup
I shall join VE on this. My gut supa stronk.
Last post before I go out. DON'T HIDE YE IRISH SPIRIT Mind explaining your vote? I think that right now you guys are jumping on an easy bandwagon. johnnywup is a new player and this is his first game. Newbie mafias are more likely to lurk and be wishy washy with their post as you say. But he did take a stance that he thought jackal was town, which means that he is not avoiding the issue at all.
It's interesting that you should say that Nemisis.
Let's explore that line of thinking. Saying that you think someone is town, only to clarify twice that it's not based on any concrete evidence and is likely to change is absolutely not taking a stance...he backed off his read the very moment it was questioned.
Secondly, why would scum be likely to 'avoid the issue' of someone being town or not? They know they're RIGHT! Scum love dishing out town reads sir! "Avoiding" is more behavior I'd expect when asking a scum about his scummates - like, if Jackal were scum, I'd say he was "avoiding" the issue of johnnywup being scum...but since I think he's town, I'm attributing it to townie reservation rather than scummy avoidance.
What's the difference you might be asking? Well, simply put, johnnywup was "so bold" as to call Jackal town, while Jackal said no such thing of johnnywup.
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i'm bad at the game first game, that might be a reason why im so bold @_@ i dont know when or when not to be bold with reads.
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On March 18 2012 10:31 xsksc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2012 10:21 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay, claim after one vote. That's not doing you any favors either.
I think we got a winner here guys. Ready, set, VOTE! While I certainly dislike what I've seen of him so far, I hesitated to add a vote to my post on him, simply because I'm not sure if he's posting that way because he's a brand new townie, or if there is a scum motive to his posts. I don't think it's sensible to call for a bandwagon on him THIS early in the game, give it some time (we have practically the whole day left). If nothing much has changed when it comes to lynch time, sure, I'm totally up for lynching fuck out of him. No need to rush into things though, let's use all this time we've got!
We're able to switch our vote. Right now, I think johnnywup is our best shot of hitting scum, so there's no reason to dance around the issue. If you think he's scum, you should be voting for him. I'm certainly not above changing my vote to a better candidate should one arise, but considering his posting so far, that's not likely as far as I'm concerned.
But yeah, take time if you need it. I don't. I wanna lynch that dude.
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On March 18 2012 10:40 johnnywup wrote: i'm bad at the game first game, that might be a reason why im so bold @_@ i dont know when or when not to be bold with reads.
Yet you seem to know enough to immediately backpedal on a read because "then you'd be a prime lynch candidate". Why is that again, exactly?
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On March 18 2012 10:42 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2012 10:40 johnnywup wrote: i'm bad at the game first game, that might be a reason why im so bold @_@ i dont know when or when not to be bold with reads. Yet you seem to know enough to immediately backpedal on a read because "then you'd be a prime lynch candidate". Why is that again, exactly? i dont want to die
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I'm asking why you'd be considered 'a prime lynch candidate'...you seem to have a lot of inherant guilt that's bubbling forth just in our little interaction...I can't wait to see what the case on you will be tomorrow.
And with that town, I'm off for to celebrate Drinking Day. Adieu.
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Because it seemed like it would be an unpopular opinion when people started questioning it a lot. Unpopular opinions=more people thinking im suspicious, and i don't want that. turns out not wanting to be suspicious makes me look more suspicious, will keep that in mind in later games or this game if i survive.
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The obvious reason to "avoiding town reads" is so that they don't have to backpedal on a read when asked to choose lynch between a scummate and a townie, as what you are using to lynch him right now.
I rather doubt that he is scum as newbie scums depend more on the veteran players on what to do. I doubt that his scummates would have let him do a stupid move for no purpose at all. In essence, I don't see scum MOTIVE on his posts.
To quote incognito's guide:
What you must be looking at is not necessarily what people do, but how they do it.
I'm out for tonight. Jcarlsoniv, I'm hoping by tomorrow that you would have put a reason to your suspicions.
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Some of the best moves I've seen scum make have been by newer players in their first scum game, don't tell me what his scummates will let him do.
Go read XLVIII, Toadesstern, being one of the resident newer player scum members on the team, fake-claimed Doctor and introduced enough doubt into the town to help power through 2 no-lynches before we threw it all in at the end. This was after being advised against doing such a thing.
And you're telling me that you believe that not even 3 hours into the game, scum are dictating what their potential "newer players" are typing in-thread? Something tells me you haven't played scum many times here.
At any rate, good luck with defending the indefensible, because as little reason as you think I have to be attacking him, that's exactly as little reason you have for defending him unless you know something I don't. You say he's a new player - I say I'm calling out new player scum mistakes.
Now if you're done, I've got a scum to lynch.
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On March 18 2012 14:40 VisceraEyes wrote: Some of the best moves I've seen scum make have been by newer players in their first scum game, don't tell me what his scummates will let him do.
Go read XLVIII, Toadesstern, being one of the resident newer player scum members on the team, fake-claimed Doctor and introduced enough doubt into the town to help power through 2 no-lynches before we threw it all in at the end. This was after being advised against doing such a thing.
And you're telling me that you believe that not even 3 hours into the game, scum are dictating what their potential "newer players" are typing in-thread? Something tells me you haven't played scum many times here.
At any rate, good luck with defending the indefensible, because as little reason as you think I have to be attacking him, that's exactly as little reason you have for defending him unless you know something I don't. You say he's a new player - I say I'm calling out new player scum mistakes.
Now if you're done, I've got a scum to lynch.
you seem VERY intent on lynching me... but you have a good point, if i were scum i would be more like a puppet anyways. but i dont think if i was scum that my scum-mates would want me to get lynched first day.
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I think johnnywup is town and he is responding like deer caught in headlights.
Right now my eye is on xsksc: the first thing he does is join VE and start grilling the newbie. He then posts a pre-emptive defense for his lack of vote.
On March 18 2012 10:31 xsksc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2012 10:21 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay, claim after one vote. That's not doing you any favors either.
I think we got a winner here guys. Ready, set, VOTE! While I certainly dislike what I've seen of him so far, I hesitated to add a vote to my post on him, simply because I'm not sure if he's posting that way because he's a brand new townie, or if there is a scum motive to his posts. I don't think it's sensible to call for a bandwagon on him THIS early in the game, give it some time (we have practically the whole day left). If nothing much has changed when it comes to lynch time, sure, I'm totally up for lynching fuck out of him. No need to rush into things though, let's use all this time we've got!
He takes a whole paragraph to say "I didn't vote because I wasn't sure". Wants us to make best use of our time but doesn't actually offer any suggestions. Why, his own case on why he thinks johnnywup is suspicious applies aptly to himself!
On March 18 2012 10:14 xsksc wrote: Then you posted your early game reads and said you thought Jackal was town, then when you're questioned about it, you instantly became wishy-washy about it. Reading your posts, I'm getting the feeling that you're posting for the sake of posting something, rather than trying to push a town agenda.
You seem very keen to let everyone know how on the fence you are. Why? It's like mad libs, just replace "Jackal was town" with "johnnywup is scum" and xsksc's name with someone else's. Wishy washy about his read, giving obvious advice about using our time without actually doing it himself and keen to explain why he did not add a vote even though no one actually asked him.
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