his response just made no sense to me.
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
his response just made no sense to me. | ||
Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
On March 15 2012 05:49 Jackal58 wrote: [image blocked] Probably said too much about Pokemon, but it's relevant! | ||
EchelonTee
United States5202 Posts
1. It makes utterly no sense to frame you, and I don't even think scum can frame someone as traitor. 2. Caller is implying that what you said makes no sense, or is false. I'll wait to see what he says | ||
prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On March 15 2012 05:38 Kurumi wrote: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Joey That's why Rattata and no other pokemon. Because trainer Joey in Generation II brags about his Rattata in phone calls. That's it. Also, I guess my play worked. I guess You're mad, jaybrundage? Tried to recruit it me but it failed? Got'cha, scum. I trolled on Day 1 on purpose: I wanted to attract scum to use their traitor guess on me and fail. The top percentage Rattata is a joke in the pokemon communities. Look it up. I could've picked pretty much any Dark-type pokemon or Ghost-type. Maybe even Psychic. Although not of this type, there's a great pokemon suitable for such a crumb if I would like to do it: Sudowoodo because it's "Imitation Pokemon" as a species, it mimics a tree. Or even freaking Ditto, the Transform Pokemon. There was no reason for me to go for Rattata other than trolling purposes. There are dozens of better pokemon for this. I am not scum/traitor. Since Caller has proven to be indeed the Day Vigilante, I am unvoting him, as my theory falls apart. Too bad for regular scum member, trolly enough for Traitor. Yes I am indeed a Dreamer. Yes, there's a person that I've told what was my plan during D1 today. Yes, I got the info about Dreamflower role being in-game. I guess it was my first clue, probably the most accurate one I am going to have, comparing it to the second one. If someone is wondering, my gibberish was inspired by Salvatore from Name of the Rose. He used to be a heretic, but then became a monk to save himself after the main group was crushed. It was a hint that I know more about things because I've seen a lot(and that it might be useless, because of clues). I have given everything I know here but the second clue. That's what I've got to say. I am innocent, just as my Salvatore-style gibberish said. I can't do fireworks here, I am really sorry. I am a passive role. I am voting jaybrundage. His reason is terrible and could only be scum-driven. I have told all of You some time ago that I won't let my lynch ever happen early into the game. I am Town. Jaybrundage and his team are mad about me not being the traitor, so they picked me as the lynch target instead, saying I'm traitor. I have given scum such a chance, but I am not going to let them use it. You could have pushed me Day 1, but You didn't. Guess, You were still wondering about me, huh? The pokémon babble in this post is impossible to understand. Yes, I do want to understand. Hinting that you're traitor as town if so unspeakably dumb that it would be an insult not to lynch you. | ||
DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On March 15 2012 05:31 Jitsu wrote: Yet, you thought prplhz had an equally telling scumslip, where he was near "confirmed," and this is also the same game where you wanted to hang me for posting against what I perceived as a scumslip as well, right? Cool. If you can point out where I said it was equally telling that'd be cool This is definitely worse than what prplhz said. Encouraging a suicide vig to shoot you is scummy as hell but it doesn't touch what Kurumi did. You don't think Kurumi is scum? Do you have blinders on because I called you out yesterday? Use your brain. | ||
prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On March 15 2012 06:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote: If you can point out where I said it was equally telling that'd be cool This is definitely worse than what prplhz said. Encouraging a suicide vig to shoot you is scummy as hell but it doesn't touch what Kurumi did. You don't think Kurumi is scum? Do you have blinders on because I called you out yesterday? Use your brain. Yea it's so scummy that not only I wanted him to do it, Curu and Palmar too. Those people are pretty good at mafia, why aren't you on their back? I could just be a moron but those people can't use that excuse now can they? Why aren't you going for them? | ||
Jitsu
United States929 Posts
On March 15 2012 06:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote: If you can point out where I said it was equally telling that'd be cool This is definitely worse than what prplhz said. Encouraging a suicide vig to shoot you is scummy as hell but it doesn't touch what Kurumi did. You don't think Kurumi is scum? Do you have blinders on because I called you out yesterday? Use your brain. On March 14 2012 07:19 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Confirmed scum? He said a bunch of times he's gonna shoot you. This means you both die if you're town since you have no guaranteed means of protection. If you're scum you can block and hit jackal which means you don't die and he never gets to claim his hit implicating you. Nice slip bro. I did use my brain. Why would you call someone Confirmed Scum and not even bother voting for them? | ||
Jitsu
United States929 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
I said that way before what Kurumi did. If I had said "Kurumi's slip is equally bad as prplhz" at anytime then that would count as calling them equal. Thinking that a townie would never say what prplhz said there then voting for Kurumi after he claimed something much worse (and also more objective, there has never been a town role that knows of other roles and we know for a fact mafia gets safeclaims) is not the same as that. It isn't the same. Do you understand that? Do you understand the difference between saying "confirmed scum?" and antagonizing someone I find scummy and saying "prplhz is confirmed scum everyone vote for him" like I am now with Kurumi? Do you fucking understand? Do you understand? | ||
DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
What the fuck is the point of what you're even saying do you really think it's scummy to change your vote based on new information throughout the day should I just stick with my first read forever jesus christ | ||
DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
This was during night 1 From: Kurumi [ 3327 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ] Subject: Re: I am scared Date: 3/14/12 05:09 There's plan behind all my actions. Yes, You can't shoot me. That would end bad. Also lol@ people calling Your role "themed", it's just Self-Concious Vigilante with a different name if what You're claiming is true. I wonder why You were on the table Day 1, I couldn't understand it. How are You feeling right now, though? Ready to crush some scum? The thing that worries me is Palmar/VE/prplhz/layabout, they're quite malicious. Bill Murray surprisingly looks GOOD. A huge letdown by deconduo and Node(one of the reasons I voted him) Do You think in case of incoming mislynch tomorrow we should get rid of a lurker? I think it'd be better than a no-lynch. Original Message From Jackal58: If they think you are the traitor as it appears to me your trying to make it look like you are why should you be scared? I can't shoot you. Scum probably won't. Hide nested quote - Original Message From Kurumi: Great Jackal the "Dreamflower", I am scared. I don't know if I will make it through the night. They don't want to burn heretics. They don't want to purge the mutant. I am scared. I know too much. Also *redacted* is a dick. I am so paranoid. Everyone is Spy. Everyone is bad. You are bad! No, You're good.. Kurumi is good.. Kurumi knows things! | ||
[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On March 15 2012 05:58 EchelonTee wrote: 1. It makes utterly no sense to frame you, and I don't even think scum can frame someone as traitor. 2. Caller is implying that what you said makes no sense, or is false. I'll wait to see what he says Frame: Cost .5KP makes a player appear as mafia for 1 night cycle. Well fuck you're right... any other explanation or should I start turning on Caller? | ||
Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
On March 15 2012 06:10 prplhz wrote: Also, jaybrundage said yesterday that he thought it looked like a traitor hint and that we should lynch you. Why the hell would he not just shut the hell up if he was scum and he really thought it was a real traitor hint? 1st: He was after Jackal58 day one. He believed he was scum. He dropped him, without any mention on D2 and jumped on me without any strong evidence. He's now gone too. I have no idea what's going there, but I think it's scummy. I don't know how his team decided to play it out. They were probably convinced I am really traitor so they made Jay go for easy cred in case I die or something and try to recruit me and go from there. But it failed, because I am not the traitor. But thanks to my trap they can use it to push my lynch, I knew it could backfire on me. I took the risk for the greater good. Hey Jackal, did You get roleblocked tonight? You haven't said anything so I guess no. | ||
prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On March 15 2012 06:31 Kurumi wrote: 1st: He was after Jackal58 day one. He believed he was scum. He dropped him, without any mention on D2 and jumped on me without any strong evidence. He's now gone too. I have no idea what's going there, but I think it's scummy. I don't know how his team decided to play it out. They were probably convinced I am really traitor so they made Jay go for easy cred in case I die or something and try to recruit me and go from there. But it failed, because I am not the traitor. But thanks to my trap they can use it to push my lynch, I knew it could backfire on me. I took the risk for the greater good. Hey Jackal, did You get roleblocked tonight? You haven't said anything so I guess no. Yes, I know he was also after Jackal58 on day1. Do you want me to go into his filter and find the post where jaybrundage, on day1, points out that what I found to be a traitor hint looks like it is a traitor hint and that we should lynch you? You are describing a plausible scenario and not a probable scenario. There is no reason for scum to not just shut the hell up if they really think that you're the traitor. I'm trying to wrap my head around how the hell a townie could think that it's a good idea to hint that he's a traitor. It's a horrible thing to do because of how bad it can go if it backfires. You could potentially waste an entire cycle with people flocking to your lynch because of your shit. Who did you PM on day1 with your plan? @DoctorHelvetica I never once said that Jackal58 should shoot me. I don't know where you're getting that from. I said that he should shoot, not that he should shoot me. If you read the thread you will see him calling me a bunch of things night1 but he never called me scum. There are a bunch of people who feel like Jackal58 should have shot. I personally would have shot if I had the balls, I don't know if I do but I would imagine that Jackal58 does. I did this in Normal Mini Mafia II where I shot on night1 on vigilante because I knew that the next day would have been ruined if I didn't because a lot of people were pissed at me. If you think that I was trying to get Jackal58 to shoot me, then why do you think I'm scum? I don't see why scum would want Jackal58 shooting at them. Can you please explain this? | ||
DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
I saw the moment he called me traitor. Also, the "me and Rattata need friends" is about me not having anybody to pm. So I made the first step to making friends and used my two PM rights on Jackal and then on Palmar. I was bored. | ||
Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
"he" = jaybrundage | ||
DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
if you're scum you just roleblock him and mislynch or even better, no-lynch, he doesn't flip so you don't get implicated and the town keeps running around in circles, jackal loses his shot and probably gets lynched day 2 or 3 . flips don't include role descriptions so you can maybe weasel your way out of the backlash if you're town you both die that's the last time i'll say anything about it kurumi's slip is monumentally worse and i was antagonizing prplhz on purpose to see how he would react. can we lynch kurumi for admitting he's mafia now | ||
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