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On March 03 2012 22:46 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2012 21:48 NeThZOR wrote:On March 03 2012 21:42 Ascention wrote: It is pretty annoying to login on TL and find out who won the GSL, TL spoiled it all by putting it on the damn front page..
They shouldnt do that Are you trolling, or what? Because of course if should be on the front page, even in your face if possible. It was the finals, an epic event none would want to miss. And it is headline news in the eSports wordl, per se. So yes, it can be on the front page for it is one of the biggest highlights at the moment. Edit: The poster above, LimitSEA, probably gave a better response to your post. Now I also know about the hide spoiler function, something I did not previously notice. Honestly I'm annoyed about it too. I woke up at about 6am my time and went into TL to check whether the event was still running to see if I could catch the tail end, but instead I got spoiled immediately. The results shouldn't be posted in your face at the top of the page IMMEDIATELY after the event. Not everyone lives in a time zone where it is convenient or possible to watch the event live. TL has always had a no spoiler (within a reasonable time) policy, so I'm confused as to why they suddenly decided to change -- getting spoiled was never a problem before as long as you didn't look at threads on the sidebars or click anywhere that would lead you to results. A warning that the unwritten policy would be changing would have been nice. I'm pretty sure there was an article about the change -.-
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Guys, really now. Do you sleep through the Super Bowl (world cup, whatever other sports finals you care about), then log on to a sports news hub and bitch when they have spoilers on their front page? Because that's exactly what's happening here - you didn't watch the finals of a MAJOR esports tournament, came to the #1 news source about esports, and you're complaining that they covered it.
If you don't want the results spoiled, watch the games before you come to the news hub that makes its money by covering these things. Or turn on the hide spoilers option mentioned earlier in this thread. Either way, complaining about it is just complaining about your own poor decisions.
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On March 03 2012 22:59 MindBreaker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2012 22:46 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:On March 03 2012 21:48 NeThZOR wrote:On March 03 2012 21:42 Ascention wrote: It is pretty annoying to login on TL and find out who won the GSL, TL spoiled it all by putting it on the damn front page..
They shouldnt do that Are you trolling, or what? Because of course if should be on the front page, even in your face if possible. It was the finals, an epic event none would want to miss. And it is headline news in the eSports wordl, per se. So yes, it can be on the front page for it is one of the biggest highlights at the moment. Edit: The poster above, LimitSEA, probably gave a better response to your post. Now I also know about the hide spoiler function, something I did not previously notice. Honestly I'm annoyed about it too. I woke up at about 6am my time and went into TL to check whether the event was still running to see if I could catch the tail end, but instead I got spoiled immediately. The results shouldn't be posted in your face at the top of the page IMMEDIATELY after the event. Not everyone lives in a time zone where it is convenient or possible to watch the event live. TL has always had a no spoiler (within a reasonable time) policy, so I'm confused as to why they suddenly decided to change -- getting spoiled was never a problem before as long as you didn't look at threads on the sidebars or click anywhere that would lead you to results. A warning that the unwritten policy would be changing would have been nice. I'm pretty sure there was an article about the change -.-
If it exists, link to it. Comments like these are so useless when not backed with evidence.
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On March 03 2012 23:00 Bevan wrote: Guys, really now. Do you sleep through the Super Bowl (world cup, whatever other sports finals you care about), then log on to a sports news hub and bitch when they have spoilers on their front page? Because that's exactly what's happening here - you didn't watch the finals of a MAJOR esports tournament, came to the #1 news source about esports, and you're complaining that they covered it.
If you don't want the results spoiled, watch the games before you come to the news hub that makes its money by covering these things. Or turn on the hide spoilers option mentioned earlier in this thread. Either way, complaining about it is just complaining about your own poor decisions.
Hey Mr. Hockey, teamliquid is a leader in hiding results so the fans can't get spoiled. There are mostly 300k people visiting everyday, you think that 300k people will force themselves to not look at front page? Oh wait, just navigate with a bandana?
It's probably a mistake from them, maybe some ppl were so glad about DRG wins, but spoils gotta get hide.
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On March 03 2012 21:42 Ascention wrote: It is pretty annoying to login on TL and find out who won the GSL, TL spoiled it all by putting it on the damn front page..
They shouldnt do that
I wasn't able to watch, and logged onto Team Liquid to actually find out if DRG <3 had won. It being headline news is awesome.
I'm pretty sure there was a thread about 'Should TL have headlines' or something, and most people wanted it this way.
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On March 03 2012 23:02 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2012 22:59 MindBreaker wrote:
I'm pretty sure there was an article about the change -.- If it exists, link to it. Comments like these are so useless when not backed with evidence.
Spoiler Policy: We're removing our spoiler policy for StarCraft 2 news. That means news threads and forum threads can now have spoilers in the title and spoilers in the comments, though posters will still have to stay on topic (i.e. don't post about GSL in an NASL thread). Brood War news and forums will remain on the old spoiler policy.
We've always envisioned our site as a place where we can have live, up to date news. We want fans to come to our site and see a player holding a trophy with an appropriate headline. This is the future of coverage and where we've always wanted to be as a coverage site. We began as a site during a time with no live streams and everyone read news to see who won last night. Even as technology advanced, the time zone difference made it impractical to watch live for all but the most dedicated fans. But with the SC2 boom, there are plenty of NA and EU events in appropriate time zones. Although many fans still use VODs, live viewing is now the norm. Professional StarCraft 2 resembles live, mainstream sports for most of its fans, and we believe it's finally time to provide fast, up to date coverage on events as they unfold.
From: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=314832
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congratz to DRG so happy he won especially after blizzard cup and MLG.. Now he can go celebrate watch the iem and go back to it. Genius.. Carriers on GSL Finals.. talk about unpredictable. Great series. Even better GSL Series. Best of luck Genius and gratz DRG
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For everyone bitching about spoilers, for future reference, there's a check box on the bottom left corner of the front page that says "Hide Spoilers." Guess what it does! This feature was introduced last week with the changes to the front page, and had any of you read the article about those changes, you would have known about it, and the relaxed spoiler policy.
On another note, congrats to DRG on his first GSL championship!
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On March 03 2012 23:05 Novacurse wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2012 23:02 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:On March 03 2012 22:59 MindBreaker wrote:
I'm pretty sure there was an article about the change -.- If it exists, link to it. Comments like these are so useless when not backed with evidence. Show nested quote +Spoiler Policy: We're removing our spoiler policy for StarCraft 2 news. That means news threads and forum threads can now have spoilers in the title and spoilers in the comments, though posters will still have to stay on topic (i.e. don't post about GSL in an NASL thread). Brood War news and forums will remain on the old spoiler policy.
We've always envisioned our site as a place where we can have live, up to date news. We want fans to come to our site and see a player holding a trophy with an appropriate headline. This is the future of coverage and where we've always wanted to be as a coverage site. We began as a site during a time with no live streams and everyone read news to see who won last night. Even as technology advanced, the time zone difference made it impractical to watch live for all but the most dedicated fans. But with the SC2 boom, there are plenty of NA and EU events in appropriate time zones. Although many fans still use VODs, live viewing is now the norm. Professional StarCraft 2 resembles live, mainstream sports for most of its fans, and we believe it's finally time to provide fast, up to date coverage on events as they unfold. From: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=314832
wtf, some random thread in the TL community forum a week ago? CAN'T BELIEVE I MISSED THAT.
I guess those of us who haven't had a problem with this for years just learned the hard way. Won't make the same mistake again.
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On March 03 2012 22:18 Liph wrote: People who come to starcraft news sites not expecting to find any spoilers are just stupid beyond belief. Stop being naive and stupid. Or continue to do so and let us laugh at your stupidity. Stfu.
Not everyone comes to TL as merely a "Starcraft news site". A lot of people come to it for streams, for the community aspect, for information (liquipedia, TLPD) or as a calendar for future events.
I'm disappointed that the news item about a change to the front page format and spoiler policy wasn't itself a "Featured News" item.
If I knew about the spoiler check box, I would've checked it last week before coming to TL today. I also would've watched the VODs myself unspoiled.
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On March 03 2012 23:12 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2012 23:05 Novacurse wrote:On March 03 2012 23:02 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:On March 03 2012 22:59 MindBreaker wrote:
I'm pretty sure there was an article about the change -.- If it exists, link to it. Comments like these are so useless when not backed with evidence. Spoiler Policy: We're removing our spoiler policy for StarCraft 2 news. That means news threads and forum threads can now have spoilers in the title and spoilers in the comments, though posters will still have to stay on topic (i.e. don't post about GSL in an NASL thread). Brood War news and forums will remain on the old spoiler policy.
We've always envisioned our site as a place where we can have live, up to date news. We want fans to come to our site and see a player holding a trophy with an appropriate headline. This is the future of coverage and where we've always wanted to be as a coverage site. We began as a site during a time with no live streams and everyone read news to see who won last night. Even as technology advanced, the time zone difference made it impractical to watch live for all but the most dedicated fans. But with the SC2 boom, there are plenty of NA and EU events in appropriate time zones. Although many fans still use VODs, live viewing is now the norm. Professional StarCraft 2 resembles live, mainstream sports for most of its fans, and we believe it's finally time to provide fast, up to date coverage on events as they unfold. From: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=314832 wtf, some random thread in the TL community forum a week ago? CAN'T BELIEVE I MISSED THAT. I guess those of us who haven't had a problem with this for years just learned the hard way. Won't make the same mistake again.
It was on the front page when it was new, it was just archived there.
Look, you asked for a link to the post, it has been given to you. Might I suggest you appear to have lost this battle, and it may just be appropriate to move along.
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On March 03 2012 23:14 teamsolid wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2012 22:18 Liph wrote: People who come to starcraft news sites not expecting to find any spoilers are just stupid beyond belief. Stop being naive and stupid. Or continue to do so and let us laugh at your stupidity. Stfu. Not everyone comes to TL as merely a "Starcraft news site". A lot of people come to it for streams, for the community aspect, for information (liquipedia, TLPD) or as a calendar for future events. I'm disappointed that the news item about a change to the front page format and spoiler policy wasn't itself a "Featured News" item. If I knew about the spoiler check box, I would've checked it last week before coming to TL today. I also would've watched the VODs myself unspoiled.
In regards to the streams; you could just go to twitch, own3d & whatever streamsite available to find out if the player(s) you want to watch is/are streaming.
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On March 03 2012 23:12 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2012 23:05 Novacurse wrote:On March 03 2012 23:02 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:On March 03 2012 22:59 MindBreaker wrote:
I'm pretty sure there was an article about the change -.- If it exists, link to it. Comments like these are so useless when not backed with evidence. Spoiler Policy: We're removing our spoiler policy for StarCraft 2 news. That means news threads and forum threads can now have spoilers in the title and spoilers in the comments, though posters will still have to stay on topic (i.e. don't post about GSL in an NASL thread). Brood War news and forums will remain on the old spoiler policy.
We've always envisioned our site as a place where we can have live, up to date news. We want fans to come to our site and see a player holding a trophy with an appropriate headline. This is the future of coverage and where we've always wanted to be as a coverage site. We began as a site during a time with no live streams and everyone read news to see who won last night. Even as technology advanced, the time zone difference made it impractical to watch live for all but the most dedicated fans. But with the SC2 boom, there are plenty of NA and EU events in appropriate time zones. Although many fans still use VODs, live viewing is now the norm. Professional StarCraft 2 resembles live, mainstream sports for most of its fans, and we believe it's finally time to provide fast, up to date coverage on events as they unfold. From: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=314832 wtf, some random thread in the TL community forum a week ago? CAN'T BELIEVE I MISSED THAT. I guess those of us who haven't had a problem with this for years just learned the hard way. Won't make the same mistake again. exactly, this is outrageous. Of course no one is going to apologize for that right? well thanks anyway for robbing us, brb reinstalling Adblock.
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On March 03 2012 23:28 aruken wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2012 23:12 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:On March 03 2012 23:05 Novacurse wrote:On March 03 2012 23:02 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:On March 03 2012 22:59 MindBreaker wrote:
I'm pretty sure there was an article about the change -.- If it exists, link to it. Comments like these are so useless when not backed with evidence. Spoiler Policy: We're removing our spoiler policy for StarCraft 2 news. That means news threads and forum threads can now have spoilers in the title and spoilers in the comments, though posters will still have to stay on topic (i.e. don't post about GSL in an NASL thread). Brood War news and forums will remain on the old spoiler policy.
We've always envisioned our site as a place where we can have live, up to date news. We want fans to come to our site and see a player holding a trophy with an appropriate headline. This is the future of coverage and where we've always wanted to be as a coverage site. We began as a site during a time with no live streams and everyone read news to see who won last night. Even as technology advanced, the time zone difference made it impractical to watch live for all but the most dedicated fans. But with the SC2 boom, there are plenty of NA and EU events in appropriate time zones. Although many fans still use VODs, live viewing is now the norm. Professional StarCraft 2 resembles live, mainstream sports for most of its fans, and we believe it's finally time to provide fast, up to date coverage on events as they unfold. From: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=314832 wtf, some random thread in the TL community forum a week ago? CAN'T BELIEVE I MISSED THAT. I guess those of us who haven't had a problem with this for years just learned the hard way. Won't make the same mistake again. exactly, this is outrageous. Of course no one is going to apologize for that right? well thanks anyway for robbing us, brb reinstalling Adblock. Wow that's an over-reaction your acting rediculous
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I disagree with having live updates getting up for the GSL (esp. the finals) right after they happen and with spoilers in the front page article/title. There's a reason why I PAID for the access to watch the VODs after the event has already happened. It's because they're airing in a time zone where I can't possibly catch them awake.
If there was a sports event that I missed, I sure as hell wouldn't pay to go back and find the video and watch it again. I could also catch it live if I wanted to as it happened since it's airing in the same time zone as myself...
Up to date coverage for MLG, IEM, IPL or any other events like that I have no problem with at all and I don't think many other people have ever voiced concerns about them... being that if you wanted to you could watch them as they're airing. I just think an exception should be made for important matches in the GSL, which should be spoiler'ed by default.
TLDR: This is pretty much a big FU to everyone who actually subscribes to GSL for the VODs.
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