[IPL TAC2] Quantic vs. Mousesports (Day 4) - Page 12
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MK4512
Canada938 Posts
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SiguR
Canada2039 Posts
On January 27 2012 11:06 Bashion wrote: And zerg can always transition into whichever tech they want. They will be way ahead on bases, they can turtle with spines, get infestor/broodlord, and Protoss cant do anything about it. Mutas are beatable in PvZ. Taldarim's size might make it ugly, but in no way is it unbeatable. The mutas aren't supposed to be able to do damage once you have high templar unless it is extremely inefficient damage. If it happens, the protoss made a mistake. It is a strategy that requires a VERY specific response from the protoss, but I don't think it's broken. Destiny played well. | ||
bennyaus
Australia1833 Posts
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SC2NeCro
Canada507 Posts
Hyped to extremes and just a mediocre mid-tier foreigner. User was warned for this post | ||
obesemk
Norway267 Posts
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mijagi182
Poland797 Posts
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00Visor
4337 Posts
On January 27 2012 11:07 Trsjnica wrote: A bit sad that when Destiny wins a game, everyone just uses it as evidence of imba rather than congratulating Destiny on continued improvements and two good wins. Its not about Destiny. People will complain about mass mutas on TalDarim no matter who plays. Overpowered or not, Destiny played this really well. | ||
Sackings
Canada457 Posts
On January 27 2012 11:11 SiguR wrote: Mutas are beatable in PvZ. Taldarim's size might make it ugly, but in no way is it unbeatable. The mutas aren't supposed to be able to do damage once you have high templar unless it is extremely inefficient damage. If it happens, the protoss made a mistake. It is a strategy that requires a VERY specific response from the protoss, but I don't think it's broken. Destiny played well. On most maps it is completely beatable, but when the 3rd and main are close like that by air on taldarim... not gonna says its unbalanced but u have to outplay the zerg by a large margin imo | ||
Kiarip
United States1835 Posts
On January 27 2012 11:07 GDbushido wrote: this is purely to placate the average players, because VERY few low level protoss are capable of dealing with a zerg that gets enough mutas out, because it isnt easy, as witnessed by a very good (but not elite) protoss in MaNa losing to it just now. but any decent korean protoss knows exactly how not to die to mass muta. you need SOMETHING else to damage to the stalkers. stop spouting nonsense... No they don't. You can't move out against mutas without being literally all-in. MaNa is as good a protoss as any, his pvz isnt' his best MU, but it doesn't change the fact that if you have a timing that fails, and the zerg has a spire he basically cashes in on a free-win, because once you start going mutas the game enters a stage where there's very little that protoss can do outside of waiting for zerg to make a mistake, or base trading. | ||
Letall
Sweden384 Posts
On January 27 2012 11:12 SC2NeCro wrote: Thorzain is the most overrated player of all time. Hyped to extremes and just a mediocre mid-tier foreigner. Funny that you say that when he's going up vs destiny | ||
tribulator
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SC2NeCro
Canada507 Posts
On January 27 2012 11:13 Letall wrote: Funny that you say that when he's going up vs destiny So? Having a large fanbase =/= overrated. Nobody proclaims Destiny is a top tier player, and I see it all the time for Thorzain. | ||
Loophole
United States867 Posts
On January 27 2012 11:10 Baffels wrote: Not sure why people are saying Destiny played well. Mass mutas, miss MaNa expanding past 3 bases and drag out a game that should of been over, I mean really how do you lose that many bases with 60 mutas on the field? Still hoping for better games, thorzain coming out should be interesting. I thought Destiny's harass and muta control was very good. He had multiple groups of mutas pulling mana all over the place, forcing him to constantly defend. It was textbook. The point of what he was doing was to drag it out. It's called starving out your opponent and he did it properly. You might not like the strategy, it might not be exciting to you, but Destiny def played well. | ||
GTPGlitch
5061 Posts
On January 27 2012 11:12 SC2NeCro wrote: Thorzain is the most overrated player of all time. Hyped to extremes and just a mediocre mid-tier foreigner. Rofl, because beating Nani, MC, Kas, and FD means he's totally mid-tier. | ||
GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
On January 27 2012 11:11 SiguR wrote: Mutas are beatable in PvZ. Taldarim's size might make it ugly, but in no way is it unbeatable. The mutas aren't supposed to be able to do damage once you have high templar unless it is extremely inefficient damage. If it happens, the protoss made a mistake. It is a strategy that requires a VERY specific response from the protoss, but I don't think it's broken. Destiny played well. Storm isn't instantaneous ya know? | ||
OtoshimonoU
United States509 Posts
On January 27 2012 11:12 mijagi182 wrote: destiny played well but MaNa was having lags issues (US server) also which is not porobably good when microing blink stalkers/storms gg anyway I see you're from Poland. | ||
ratzp0li
United States340 Posts
On January 27 2012 11:14 tribulator wrote: Against thorzain on antiga? Ouch. Well it was a decent run, Destiny... yup lol oh well, at least we'll probably get to see Naniwa or sase play vs Thorzain. | ||
TearsOfTheSun
Canada995 Posts
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MVTaylor
United Kingdom2893 Posts
On January 27 2012 11:14 SC2NeCro wrote: So? Having a large fanbase =/= overrated. Nobody proclaims Destiny is a top tier player, and I see it all the time for Thorzain. Just.... Just.... http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_Pokerstrategy_TSL/Bracket http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/ThorZaIN No | ||
Xcobidoo
Sweden1871 Posts
On January 27 2012 11:11 bennyaus wrote: So... Quantic is 2-1 up... They have SaSe, Naniwa to come, and Mouz have Thorzain and then Morrow?. I don't see Mouz taking this now that Destiny took out their two Protoss, but it will all come down to whether they can take out Thorzain without taking too much damage from him. I assume SaSe or Nani comes next and snipes him. If NaNi ever played team leagues that is | ||
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