I have been waiting for way too long
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DawN883
Sweden558 Posts
I have been waiting for way too long | ||
[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
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Treehead
999 Posts
"Alright guys, I know we've been funding this project for nearly 10 years now, and we're definitely set up to make hundreds of millions of dollars right now - but let's just give Korea another 6 months to a year to make sure they're on board with this." In a corporate environment where the earnings for the current year (or in some places, the current quarter) tend to be the only item of importance (and also, the main factor in determining bonuses for these executives we seem to want to believe enjoy keeping the game from us), can anyone explain why this idea possibly makes any sense at all? | ||
CoFran
Canada342 Posts
Now we will know if the release date was directly related. | ||
Medrea
10003 Posts
On January 06 2012 00:04 CoFran wrote: Apparently SK will settle to a 18+ rating without cashing out options; http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?818964-Korean-D3-rating-decision-on-Jan-4th-2012&p=8144941&viewfull=1#post8144941 Now we will know if the release date was directly related. It's always been known that the two are related. The issue is that depending on your level of tin hattery, how big a piece of the pie the RMAH issue is. All of it? Most of it? Some of it? None of it? (thats the hard one) On January 05 2012 23:33 [F_]aths wrote: If two incidents happen at the same time, they are not necessarily connected. Diablo 3 is still not ready for launch. As I followed the beta, some serious gameplay changes were implemented, even though the beta covers less than the first half of Act 1. The korean RMAH delay is a seperate issue. No big gameplay changes were made on beta. The biggest one was that monk got a new ability and removed an old one. An altar was moved to one spot in town to a spot slightly south and east of that spot. Everything else has just been minor balance. A serious gameplay change would be something like, changed all classes to use mana, new talent tree! Items are now Soulbound. | ||
Medrea
10003 Posts
On January 05 2012 23:33 [F_]aths wrote: If two incidents happen at the same time, they are not necessarily connected. Diablo 3 is still not ready for launch. As I followed the beta, some serious gameplay changes were implemented, even though the beta covers less than the first half of Act 1. The korean RMAH delay is a seperate issue. Maybe but how often do two things need to happen at the same time before we can start drawing a correlation? OP's article pieces together about a half dozen events, sources included, that tie the release date to the RMAH issue. When the president of the firm himself gets involved and then makes a 5:30 AM post about how the game is going to be delayed, a first for Mike, its hard to draw the conclusion he was just in Korea for the lulz. Im not saying such a standpoint is impossible. But I have linked a lot of sources and explanations and people who have done the same to show one side of the situation, can you do the same with that side? Anyway, lets see what happens if the board has really decided to give the game an 18+ rating. I cannot read Korean. Also the more sources you guys can dig up, either towards the OP or away from the OP, go ahead and link and I will add them to the OP. | ||
andrewlt
United States7692 Posts
On January 05 2012 23:54 Treehead wrote: I understand that people want to be able to blame the delays on something simple that they can see, but can someone please explain to me how it is that, knowing Starcraft 2 sold nearly 5 milllion copies, and knowing that diablo 3 will likely sell more than that (at $60 a copy that means something probably near $300 million in revenue), the ruling of one rating board in one country would be a sufficient reason for Blizzard's CEO to give their shareholders as to why the game wasn't out for the christmas season where (at least in this country) people tend to shell out a third of their income in a month's time? Again, I understand we want to be upset and don't know what to be upset at (and picking a random thing seems a good outlet for it) - but does this strike anyone else as somewhat ludicrous? I understand the shareholders were told the launch would be global - but if the launch was less than global and still made hundreds of millions of dollars, I doubt the shareholders would flee in droves because the company lied to them. "Alright guys, I know we've been funding this project for nearly 10 years now, and we're definitely set up to make hundreds of millions of dollars right now - but let's just give Korea another 6 months to a year to make sure they're on board with this." In a corporate environment where the earnings for the current year (or in some places, the current quarter) tend to be the only item of importance (and also, the main factor in determining bonuses for these executives we seem to want to believe enjoy keeping the game from us), can anyone explain why this idea possibly makes any sense at all? Nope. I read some of the speculation. The assumptions and connections made sound like the sort unemployed people who have never worked in a corporate environment would make. Most of it is driven by high school/college students. I don't see any credible sources that is worthy of a citation. | ||
ezk
Canada239 Posts
http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=1063261&category=auto Pretty please | ||
justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
On January 06 2012 00:48 ezk wrote: Someone need to translate the official announcement for us http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=1063261&category=auto Pretty please lol used google translation + Show Spoiler + More than one month in which a "Diablo III> ildanrakdoel six days of deliberation will be. <Diablo 3> is using the older '18 'is likely to receive. However, the currency (cash), the auction house is a deleted version of the cash exchange functions. According to the 5th game industry, "Diablo III> Grading domestic Blizzard had hoped 18 years of age or older is expected to emerge as a guest. Geimmul Rating Board (hereinafter geimwi) Level Committee held in the coming six days of hearings on the "Diablo 3> will be determined by grade. No version of the game on top of ten thousand days "Diablo III> If you served in the country, money is limited to the function of the auction house. Battle of cash with them to change into coin Blizzard Pass or to purchase items, but not cashed Battle coins is not constrained. In this case, the domestic "Diablo III> impossible thing to get through the cash. Battle of the trading coin auction house obtained Battle.net, Blizzard Entertainment, the game's Pass in the service or game items, and related items are available only for purchase. <Diablo 3> in the meantime money (cash) auction system was the subject of controversy in Korea. Last December 16 the first hearing on the Exchange system, you can not see why the game as demonstrated above Blizzard asked to submit additional materials. This version of Blizzard made by subtracting from the exchange functional, and above the game that you need a more thorough review to reflect the needs of the hearing committee once again mirwotda grading. Meanwhile, the "Diablo III> nopahjija classification of interest in, the game of the grading results above go outside to prevent leaks members and those involved in hearing their mouth is known to be required. But it was a vain. Also opened six days before the hearing of <Diablo 3> Grading results of some of the public through the media because Microsoft. anyway it says their version will NOT have cash out option,they can only use the virtual $$[coins in the beta] from RMAH and buy in-game stuff. | ||
Sek-Kuar
Czech Republic593 Posts
On January 06 2012 00:56 justiceknight wrote: lol used google translation + Show Spoiler + More than one month in which a "Diablo III> ildanrakdoel six days of deliberation will be. <Diablo 3> is using the older '18 'is likely to receive. However, the currency (cash), the auction house is a deleted version of the cash exchange functions. According to the 5th game industry, "Diablo III> Grading domestic Blizzard had hoped 18 years of age or older is expected to emerge as a guest. Geimmul Rating Board (hereinafter geimwi) Level Committee held in the coming six days of hearings on the "Diablo 3> will be determined by grade. No version of the game on top of ten thousand days "Diablo III> If you served in the country, money is limited to the function of the auction house. Battle of cash with them to change into coin Blizzard Pass or to purchase items, but not cashed Battle coins is not constrained. In this case, the domestic "Diablo III> impossible thing to get through the cash. Battle of the trading coin auction house obtained Battle.net, Blizzard Entertainment, the game's Pass in the service or game items, and related items are available only for purchase. <Diablo 3> in the meantime money (cash) auction system was the subject of controversy in Korea. Last December 16 the first hearing on the Exchange system, you can not see why the game as demonstrated above Blizzard asked to submit additional materials. This version of Blizzard made by subtracting from the exchange functional, and above the game that you need a more thorough review to reflect the needs of the hearing committee once again mirwotda grading. Meanwhile, the "Diablo III> nopahjija classification of interest in, the game of the grading results above go outside to prevent leaks members and those involved in hearing their mouth is known to be required. But it was a vain. Also opened six days before the hearing of <Diablo 3> Grading results of some of the public through the media because Microsoft. anyway it says their version will NOT have cash out option,they can only use the virtual $$[coins in the beta] from RMAH and buy in-game stuff. That was pretty obvious whole time this is gonna happen, standard model of gambling is: cash in - random chance - cash out And by disabling cash out option it can not be used as gambling machine, problem fixed. If they would ask me it could have been solved in 10 min ^^ | ||
CoFran
Canada342 Posts
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On January 06 2012 01:12 CoFran wrote: With that, I really hope they wont monetize too much shit in the game tho (microtransactions like that WoW 20$ mount). There isnt that much stuff on the blizzard store that you could resell. Just so it is clear. The Korean deliberation is only valid in Korea. Everyone elses RMAH will have a cash out function. | ||
[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On January 06 2012 00:09 Medrea wrote: In the early beta it was possible to use quite a lot of crafted items on level 1 chars. This was changed and is quite a big change. The altar was introduced during beta, disallowing changing active skills anytime, another big change. The damage of skills from caster classes was changed to be a percentage of weapon damage, this was quite a drastic change. Please inform yourself before you post.No big gameplay changes were made on beta. The biggest one was that monk got a new ability and removed an old one. An altar was moved to one spot in town to a spot slightly south and east of that spot. Everything else has just been minor balance. A serious gameplay change would be something like, changed all classes to use mana, new talent tree! Items are now Soulbound. Not visible in the beta: The website listed skills originally for level 7 runes which was later changed to level 4 runes, indicating that Blizzard still does major balance tuning regarding skills. | ||
Medrea
10003 Posts
I could have done without that "Please inform yourself" crap though. | ||
[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On January 06 2012 01:19 Medrea wrote: I agree, that was overly aggressive of me.You can still equip a lot of craftables on level 1's. You are right about the percentage of weapon damage though and the original altar design though. I could have done without that "Please inform yourself" crap though. Only few items can be equipped by level 1 chars, so I save the yellow items dropped by Leoric to have at least some gear for new chars. | ||
Medrea
10003 Posts
On January 06 2012 01:26 [F_]aths wrote: I agree, that was overly aggressive of me. Only few items can be equipped by level 1 chars, so I save the yellow items dropped by Leoric to have at least some gear for new chars. It's ok bro no hard feelings. Only on teamliquid.net do you find people admitting incorrectness, and people apologizing. Thank god we post on these glorious forums. I want a bro hug. | ||
crms
United States11933 Posts
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
Blizzard experimented with unattuned runes in their internal tests but seem to have decided to stick without such runes. Jay Wilson (at Blizzcon) mentioned the possibility of random modifiers for runes. Wherever you look, Blizzard still is not sure about some important things. The UI underwent several major revamps alone during beta. The hireling item requirements were changed, if I remember correctly the skills were changed a bit, too. For me, the beta still doesn't feel polished. The new videos to preview a character have gray (instead of black) backgrounds and are poorly clipped from the source (different shades of gray at some borders.) At the time the SC2 beta came out, the game looked almost finished except for the chat channels. | ||
Medrea
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CruelZeratul
Germany4588 Posts
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