EPTtlo changes his facial hair and people comment from calling him a babe to a tramp, nada has a whole thread of pictures where people drool over his abs, some guy says a girl is cute and you get angry? i dont see why i would be kidding
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
tlo changes his facial hair and people comment from calling him a babe to a tramp, nada has a whole thread of pictures where people drool over his abs, some guy says a girl is cute and you get angry? i dont see why i would be kidding | ||
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alhazrel
98 Posts
On September 06 2011 16:26 Asrathiel wrote: A male-dominated area can be a hard place for a woman to feel comfortable. Knowing that there are other girls who play, being able to talk to them about issues that women can face in gaming (broken nails aside  ), and being able to compete with other girls (who are hopefully focusing on your ability and not judging whether you're 'hot' or 'cute' or not) helps women feel more comfortable, keeps them in the gaming scene (whereas they might get sick of the bullshit and give up otherwise!) and attracts more women to the scene. How can that be a bad thing in anyone's books? This is a good post, also the reason I never understand when tl guys go crazy because a girl has been promoted ahead of better guy players. Sometimes you just need to see people like you doing the same thing you are to feel properly comfortable. N1 showing that there's nothing masculine about gaming :p | ||
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HereBeDragons
1429 Posts
On December 27 2011 07:16 turdburgler wrote: tlo changes his facial hair and people comment from calling him a babe to a tramp, nada has a whole thread of pictures where people drool over his abs, some guy says a girl is cute and you get angry? i dont see why i would be kidding Half of the people who go to watch KT plays in the Proleague is actually there to see Bisu, I don't see why he would be kidding either, | ||
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usernameisalredyinus
12 Posts
think about it, when was last time u saw a post named ``the men of`` of anything in anykind of women dominated area? the actual answer is that women and men dont really care for the interest of the man in any aspect fundamentally. what i mean is u dont see advertisement for ``men`` in women dominated areas. yeye im talkin bull, one of the biggest terms is the very biologic need of a human. in other words when was last time u saw ``balls awareness?`` even tough prostate cancer is more/about as commun as breast cancer for example. this isnt a hate post or anything, i dont mind hypocrism just something to think about when u are being a hypocrit :D User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Ex_Combat
35 Posts
Clicking through all of these ladies' pages makes me kinda depressed. I have not a single girl around me who plays games let alone play SC2. I am also depressed because I recently contracted yellow fever when they started showing Korean Pop on Australian television. | ||
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Croaker
United States101 Posts
Men, remember to check those testicles. Early detection is key for prevention! | ||
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Louuster
Canada2869 Posts
On December 27 2011 09:39 HereBeDragons wrote: Half of the people who go to watch KT plays in the Proleague is actually there to see Bisu, I don't see why he would be kidding either, Please dont confuse our team with the eternal enemy. That letter you forgot is actually quite important in this case. :p | ||
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nebula.
Sweden1431 Posts
On December 27 2011 07:16 turdburgler wrote: tlo changes his facial hair and people comment from calling him a babe to a tramp, nada has a whole thread of pictures where people drool over his abs, some guy says a girl is cute and you get angry? i dont see why i would be kidding ok you can go on thinking that is the same thing but i won't. the NaDa thread - have you read it? it's 200 pages of trolling mixed with people thinking he is cute. it's no way near the same thing as this where players get judged depending on not their skill but their looks. and TLO's beard..what do you mean? people say his beard is sexy people say he looks like Abraham Lincoln, people don't like to watch his stream because he's got a cool beard. and do you really think there's only been one person posting about her looks? Read the Aphrodite thread, read the FLO thread, read the JongMi thread. The posts speak for themselves. Alot of posts only say like: "Oh, she's cute, i'll definitely follow her progress!" Some other though say things like "She's cute and she's also a good player". And this is at the best - alot of people here on TL look at female gamers looks before they look at their skill. I think it's there the problem is. Read those threads and compare them to the NaDa thread and you'll hopefully realize it's a bit different. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
you cant defend (lower skill) girl gamers with "they are important for marketing demogrpahics" and then turn around and hate being judged on looks im ok with it however you want to play it, its just odd that you get so angry about something that you brought on yourselves i also dont understand you first point. so half of nadas thread is trolling, the other half semihomo come ons. how is that different to the girl threads you see? a mix of trolling and people being randomly whiteknighty or geniunely feeling the need to say shes hot. it just sounds like your going out looking to be offended, when the guys in the same situation laugh it off as good fun. | ||
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ohokurwrong
Brazil283 Posts
flo is sick nasty good and fast love flo duno any other good girls but i imagine a gm girl player is just as good as the male counterpart so start streaming | ||
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nebula.
Sweden1431 Posts
On December 27 2011 20:26 turdburgler wrote: well if you want to stop being judged on your looks stop posting a picture, or dont have the picture take up half the page and info about their skill take 2 lines. i realise this is kind of difficult to do when their accomplishments read "is in master league" but thats the position you are putting yourself in. look at flo's own response in that thread, she is fully aware she is part of a marketing team and her looks are actually the number 1 thing for that. you cant defend (lower skill) girl gamers with "they are important for marketing demogrpahics" and then turn around and hate being judged on looks im ok with it however you want to play it, its just odd that you get so angry about something that you brought on yourselves i also dont understand you first point. so half of nadas thread is trolling, the other half semihomo come ons. how is that different to the girl threads you see? a mix of trolling and people being randomly whiteknighty or geniunely feeling the need to say shes hot. it just sounds like your going out looking to be offended, when the guys in the same situation laugh it off as good fun. can you read? do you think i want girls who are not as good as guys at this game to be as likely promoted? you are very wrong there, i do not. with that said, i'd really love that more girls are playing sc nowadays. so people can never show their friends and the community what they look like because then they'll automatically be judged whether they're ugly or not. are you serious? do you want it to be that way? that, whenever you see a pic, you use a scale from 1-10 and point at the picture. well, i sure as hell don't want that elitist society. how the threads differ from the girl threads? haven't NaDa and TLO already made a name for themselves in this community? Did they get judged by their looks when they made their first appearances? NO. there lies the difference. they're not judged in the same meaning, they're just appreciated in a more trolling way. and please before you quote me, read my posts and understand what i want to say because you clearly don't. and no i'm not angry but i don't either like to argue with stupid people. | ||
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ohokurwrong
Brazil283 Posts
On December 27 2011 20:34 tsilaicos wrote: can you read? do you think i want girls who are not as good as guys at this game to be as likely promoted? you are very wrong there, i do not. with that said, i'd really love that more girls are playing sc nowadays. so people can never show their friends and the community what they look like because then they'll automatically be judged whether they're ugly or not. are you serious? do you want it to be that way? that, whenever you see a pic, you use a scale from 1-10 and point at the picture. well, i sure as hell don't want that elitist society. how the threads differ from the girl threads? haven't NaDa and TLO already made a name for themselves in this community? Did they get judged by their looks when they made their first appearances? NO. there lies the difference. they're not judged in the same meaning, they're just appreciated in a more trolling way. and please before you quote me, read my posts and understand what i want to say because you clearly don't. and no i'm not angry but i don't either like to argue with stupid people. ] flo is a rather good level masters player. certainly faster then say a desrow or hongun who are gm level. the problem is that girls already get screwed in the job market so when they try and get some "unfair" attention by posting a pic or streaming webcam then they are gonna get flack. i think a girl who wants to be a gamer much like the girl who wants to dive into any other male dominated world has to play the male game at first. you cannot make a name for yourself by first streaming webcam. you must first be good THEN stream webcam and be like AHAH IM A GIRL NOW WHAT. or something else corny and stupid. girls just need to be good and not even mention they are a girl. i dont see why anyone whos a girl gamer can be found out since this is an online deal. the internet is the great equalizer. a girl who is upset she is being discriminated against online most likely revealed she is a girl and is bad at said game. guys get $(#@ for being bad at games constantly. this isnt special to girls. for the most part girls need to get tougher skin because the best way to silence a guy who is giving you $(($# is beat him join in with him or ignore him just like in the real world. i really really dont think there is a giant group of men who do not accept women. what tends to be the case is women are statistically bad at video games and then a lot of them act all cutsie. gota just go get good and thats it its so simple... be good you cannot NOT respect being good my final point tho. "girls of starcraft" why... i mean isnt this in itself a set up for failure? why cant you just fit in with guys who play starcraft and just not bring up gender. im very curious why its important to list girls in a dif list basically segregating yourself... why announce "i am a girl see im on the OTHER list and i play sc" PLEASE someone explain this | ||
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teer
United States189 Posts
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alhazrel
98 Posts
On December 27 2011 20:13 tsilaicos wrote: Alot of posts only say like: "Oh, she's cute, i'll definitely follow her progress!" Some other though say things like "She's cute and she's also a good player". And this is at the best - alot of people here on TL look at female gamers looks before they look at their skill. I think it's there the problem is. Read those threads and compare them to the NaDa thread and you'll hopefully realize it's a bit different. Have you seen the xellos documentary for sc? they ask some girls why they like the male pros and they say, 'oh because they're cute', I asked a girl why she likes tasteless and again, 'because he's handsome' - sorry, these are just examples that I've recently experienced. The problem I think is that it's so dominated by guys that there's no equality in this, if you're a girl sc player then 20,000 guys are looking at you measuring your value. As a guy playing sc no one cares what I look like, what I act like, who I am. Not being in the limelight in any way I'm not in a position to be subjected to this. Check out demuslims stream and half the posts are about his sexy voice or how he looks and every pro guy seems to be asked how big their dick is in crowd interviews (sotg final episode, huks ama the other day, demu's ama). Men only get noticed and subjected to this attention when they're successful though, whereas women stand out just for their novelty. I'm surprised there are more posts talking about girls looks than there are saying they're bad at sc because that certainly isn't what I've seen. | ||
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alhazrel
98 Posts
On December 27 2011 20:44 ohokurwrong wrote: my final point tho. "girls of starcraft" why... i mean isnt this in itself a set up for failure? why cant you just fit in with guys who play starcraft and just not bring up gender. im very curious why its important to list girls in a dif list basically segregating yourself... why announce "i am a girl see im on the OTHER list and i play sc" PLEASE someone explain this it isn't to exclude guys, it's to invite girls to a place they can talk to other girls, where they are no longer in the minority and where they can talk about girl problems. I don't know, like all the boys sending them explicit things, the guys of sc talk to each other about the crazy things they are sent by interested young women too. It's nice to talk to people with similar interests and understand that what you're doing is totally normal, if you're used to being the only girl who plays games and to being kind of a freak because of it, GoSC gives you a place to reassure yourself that it isn't true and to give you a break from being constantly hit on. If they're supportive then also a place where their looks aren't an issue. Guys playing don't even need to worry about this until they make it big. I dno, maybe I'm wrong, maybe they all get together with a glossy boys of sc magazine and measure up trouser bulges. Who knows what girls get up to :p They're still part of the sc community though, being part of gosc doesn't change that. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On December 27 2011 20:34 tsilaicos wrote: can you read? do you think i want girls who are not as good as guys at this game to be as likely promoted? you are very wrong there, i do not. with that said, i'd really love that more girls are playing sc nowadays. so people can never show their friends and the community what they look like because then they'll automatically be judged whether they're ugly or not. are you serious? do you want it to be that way? that, whenever you see a pic, you use a scale from 1-10 and point at the picture. well, i sure as hell don't want that elitist society. how the threads differ from the girl threads? haven't NaDa and TLO already made a name for themselves in this community? Did they get judged by their looks when they made their first appearances? NO. there lies the difference. they're not judged in the same meaning, they're just appreciated in a more trolling way. and please before you quote me, read my posts and understand what i want to say because you clearly don't. and no i'm not angry but i don't either like to argue with stupid people. but their first appearances were based on talent with looks added later as part of the marketing package. many girls in this community bring the looks before they bring the skills. now theres nothing actually wrong with this, esports are sponsorship driven, so they decide who gets to go across the world. but if girls are going to introduced and promoted without having the skills to earn their way there first they need to accept that they are going to judged, just as everyone in the public eye is. and when theres nothing else to judge them on, looks fill that vacuum. its great that girls are being made to feel better about themselves in the community by being able to chat about starcraft without being called names or whatever else, but EVERYONE who posts pictures of themselves on the internet, or puts themselves in the public gets judged... constantly. thats just how it is. now with more profesional people there is a whole list of things to judge them on. personality, looks, talent, etc. but when you have this small article on a previously unknown player (to most people) and its half a picture and half words. half of all the content that exists about them, is their face. what are you hoping for people to think about? in an ideal world would people just look at the picture and say "well that just adds a face to what i know about her"? probably. but in the real world people judge each other and if your gonna post pictures of yourselves in public you better have a thick enough skin to handle that. On December 27 2011 20:44 ohokurwrong wrote: e... be good you cannot NOT respect being good my final point tho. "girls of starcraft" why... i mean isnt this in itself a set up for failure? why cant you just fit in with guys who play starcraft and just not bring up gender. im very curious why its important to list girls in a dif list basically segregating yourself... why announce "i am a girl see im on the OTHER list and i play sc" PLEASE someone explain this no need to be rude and call them a failure, they arent a failure at all. setting up promoting the divina tourney is more than azk ever did hurrrrr you can disagree with their ideas but you dont need to be angry about it | ||
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samthesaluki
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Livinpink
Canada326 Posts
Your Name and/OR Handle(s): Linn "YanRuYu" Vikenadler * What's your preferred race: Protoss * League: Silver * How did you get involved in BW/SC2: I grew up playing all kinds of videogames with my twinsister. I actually first came in contact with SC2 in the beginning of beta and was instantly fascinated by it. The gameplay, the graphics, the races, everything was just out of the ordinary. I got to learn that there was another game SCBW, but I never gave that game much attention. Well, I forgot about it for a year because of studies but this summer I was yet again fascinated and decided I would indeed buy this awesome game! I always push things up, so I bought it less than a month ago and has improved a lot since my frist game! It's an awesome game indeed! * By which team/player/caster are you most inspired: I dont really follow any teams, but since I have a thing for pretty boys I would say Dignitas, only because of SeleCT, haha! Which is one of the players I like to follow, also Her0... He's awesome too! Of course I follow Day9 and tastosis also, which sc-player doesn't? Before I was all hooked on Husky, but eventually he became a little too much for me, I don't know why though... ^u^ * What would you ultimately like to see the future hold in regards to female players? I would like to see more girls in big, major tournaments, that would be awesome! Also that girls CAN indeed be a tough match for male progamers as well, resulting in girl-progamers getting more recognition! That would definatly be awesome! * What do you do in your time when you are not playing or watching esports? I really like all kinds of art, music dancing, drawing, singing, all of that! Since I was a small girl I've always enjoyed it and have, in my opinion, become really good at it! And now, since christmas is comming up I do a lot of decorating in my apartment. I always liked furnishing, and since I moved recently to a new home I have been able to do a lot of that. * How old are you & how long have you been playing BW/SC2? I'm 19 years old and have played for almost a month now. * If you could do 1 thing in regards to BW/SC2, what would you do and why? I would marry Sean Plott. He's so awesome! :DD * Favourite food? Pancakes, because I make awesome pancakes and because they're might be the yummiest thing in this world (after chocolate of course!) *0* ![[image loading]](http://i43.tinypic.com/wum5qr.jpg) | ||
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TiraMissU
Australia5 Posts
Go GoSc! The future of sc2's girls rest with you~ | ||
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teer
United States189 Posts
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