Edit: wasn't it SlayerS decission to pull out Coca for that silly reason.
Koreans are to harsh.
It's all "I want to play to show good games, so I will cheese in tournament". So much hypocrasy.
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chokke
Norway228 Posts
Edit: wasn't it SlayerS decission to pull out Coca for that silly reason. Koreans are to harsh. It's all "I want to play to show good games, so I will cheese in tournament". So much hypocrasy. | ||
Dougalis
Great Britain59 Posts
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careohx
263 Posts
Those players should get better and qualify. | ||
SenorChang
Australia4729 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:04 pPingu wrote: Show nested quote + On December 13 2011 22:01 Chriscras wrote: Gom should have ended the night after the group was decided and Nestea and Nani were both knocked out. They would have done it on any other night, but their poor planning led to a Nestea-Naniwa rematching being held to late to be meaningful. I have watched a ton of GSL and I actually turned off the stream after Nani lost to the Thor rush thinking there was no way Gom would play games when the round has already been decided (don't do it in up/downs). Normally they would have canceled it I believe too, but maybe they thought it would entertain the viewers. Anyways, wasn't the best idea ever for nani to probe rush But as huk retweeted btw Show nested quote + NeWKiDsc2 NeW KiD @ @LorangerChris Stephano 6pooled cloud twice in a row when he was 0-3 in a game that actually mattered. Nobody gave a shit. Haters gonna hate People tolerate idra because many people love him for his bm and stephano has a huge fan base, nani doesn't have enough support to do this. So it's ok to do it only if enough people like you? What kind of justification is that | ||
Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On December 13 2011 21:49 Seronei wrote: Show nested quote + On December 13 2011 21:48 0ne wrote: On December 13 2011 21:47 iggyfisk wrote: On December 13 2011 21:45 Pikarya wrote: Don't think IdrA even gets this butthurt. I think when he completely threw the series against Nerchio, as in he didn't even play the last game, when the games still mattered and he could still have won, is a bit higher up on the scale actually. That was in an online tournament not in the fucking GSL against Nestea He 6 pooled Jinro in GSL, essentially the same. Idra didn't think he could win he did it because he was pissed. But that was a "I can't win in a straight-up game on this map so I will hope he does 15CC as it's pretty popular on Jungle Basin and if he does that I can win" instead of "I'll amove probes afk" | ||
Presidenten
Sweden777 Posts
As it is know though, it obviously doesn't matter at all | ||
GrimOni
United States60 Posts
On December 13 2011 21:59 MarinePrince wrote: Sheesh... The Koreans are overreacting. It wouldn't be such a huge problem if a Korean had done it. They're starting a Naniwa "witch" hunt... and making themselves look bad. Don't take it personally, you guys. I don't think the Koreans are the ones who look bad in this situation... | ||
Chr15t
Denmark1103 Posts
On December 13 2011 21:30 Waxangel wrote: @SC2MVP (Team MVP official twitter): What a relief that Complexity transferred Naniwa to Quantic. We almost had to have that kind of player stay in our house for longer. The most disappointing game as an SC2 fan. What's the most angering is that Nestea practiced hard into the night to practice yesterday, even though it was his birthday. Yea Quantic must be so proud right now ^^ | ||
LastLordofCastamere
288 Posts
On December 13 2011 21:55 iggyfisk wrote: Do you know what makes a spectator sport? Not respect, honor, or trying your best. Spectators. If people watch, talk about it, get emotional about it, it's a good sport. The next time naniwa plays, people will watch. So American Idol is the greatest spectator sport ever! | ||
Femari
United States2900 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:04 pPingu wrote: Show nested quote + On December 13 2011 22:01 Chriscras wrote: Gom should have ended the night after the group was decided and Nestea and Nani were both knocked out. They would have done it on any other night, but their poor planning led to a Nestea-Naniwa rematching being held to late to be meaningful. I have watched a ton of GSL and I actually turned off the stream after Nani lost to the Thor rush thinking there was no way Gom would play games when the round has already been decided (don't do it in up/downs). Normally they would have canceled it I believe too, but maybe they thought it would entertain the viewers. Anyways, wasn't the best idea ever for nani to probe rush But as huk retweeted btw Show nested quote + NeWKiDsc2 NeW KiD @ @LorangerChris Stephano 6pooled cloud twice in a row when he was 0-3 in a game that actually mattered. Nobody gave a shit. Haters gonna hate People tolerate idra because many people love him for his bm and stephano has a huge fan base, nani doesn't have enough support to do this. as many have pointed out, literally throwing your probes to nestea without microing them at all is different from cheesing. | ||
turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On December 13 2011 21:58 Exarl25 wrote: Show nested quote + On December 13 2011 21:55 Seronei wrote: On December 13 2011 21:55 0ne wrote: On December 13 2011 21:49 Seronei wrote: On December 13 2011 21:48 0ne wrote: On December 13 2011 21:47 iggyfisk wrote: On December 13 2011 21:45 Pikarya wrote: Don't think IdrA even gets this butthurt. I think when he completely threw the series against Nerchio, as in he didn't even play the last game, when the games still mattered and he could still have won, is a bit higher up on the scale actually. That was in an online tournament not in the fucking GSL against Nestea He 6 pooled Jinro in GSL, essentially the same. Idra didn't think he could win he did it because he was pissed. You have no idea what you are talking about. Idra had planned to 6 pool on Jungle Basin before the series started because it was an unwinnable map ZvT and it almost worked. I have every idea what I'm talking about. Idra didn't think he would win with that 6 pool. There is a difference between not thinking you will win and not trying to win. IdrA didn't like his chances but he picked the strat that he thought would give him the best chance and went for it. Naniwa a-moved his probes and took his hands off the keyboard he picked 6 pooling precisely because it was a retarded strat, hoping that jinro would never expect it. that doesnt make idra special. it almost paid off and that just shows that doing dumb shit can work sometimes. | ||
TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
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AldjinnEU
France27 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:04 Gigglesstarcraft wrote: Wasn't a good thing to do, but why so much hate for it? Imagine if you were in his situation I'd say at least 30% of people would of been so frustrated after those series, though screw it, doesn't matter lets just finish this quickly. Well then 2 gates proxy all in is the best choice, since probe rushing clearly says "I don't wan't to play against you KTHXBYE" | ||
Cocacooh
Norway1510 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:05 SenorChang wrote: Show nested quote + On December 13 2011 22:04 pPingu wrote: On December 13 2011 22:01 Chriscras wrote: Gom should have ended the night after the group was decided and Nestea and Nani were both knocked out. They would have done it on any other night, but their poor planning led to a Nestea-Naniwa rematching being held to late to be meaningful. I have watched a ton of GSL and I actually turned off the stream after Nani lost to the Thor rush thinking there was no way Gom would play games when the round has already been decided (don't do it in up/downs). Normally they would have canceled it I believe too, but maybe they thought it would entertain the viewers. Anyways, wasn't the best idea ever for nani to probe rush But as huk retweeted btw NeWKiDsc2 NeW KiD @ @LorangerChris Stephano 6pooled cloud twice in a row when he was 0-3 in a game that actually mattered. Nobody gave a shit. Haters gonna hate People tolerate idra because many people love him for his bm and stephano has a huge fan base, nani doesn't have enough support to do this. So it's ok to do it only if enough people like you? What kind of justification is that It's how the world works. Sad really. | ||
LeopoldStotch
United States158 Posts
On December 13 2011 21:58 gregnog wrote: Show nested quote + On December 13 2011 21:53 Kappa09 wrote: I don't get the attitude of the people here. Try to make a real world comparison to main stream sports just to see how wrong Naniwa was. How would you feel if the Green Bay Packers were 0-12 (obviously not true, so can't offend anyone) in the season and obviously had no chance of making the playoffs/superbowl, and then they went on to purposely lose their remaining games by sitting on the sidelines or just screwing around in front of thousands of live spectators and millions of spectators watching on television. Their fans and football fans alike would be absolutely outraged and this would be completely unacceptable. Do you think it's fair for everyone involved with the team or game that they weren't shown a true game like they were promised? Do you watch the NFL? You actually described what DOSE happen. When a team gos 12-0 or 0-12 they start pulling players to keep them fresh for the playoffs. Also the fans KNOW and UNDERSTAND that the game is meaningless, the ratings show it. On the Sportscenters and related shows all of them understand the game was meaningless, they repeat it over and over, barely skimming it over. Your comparison is very misguided. The difference is that they do play the game. What Naniwa did was throw the game, he took his hands off the keyboard, there was zero chance of him winning. | ||
rauk
United States2228 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:05 careohx wrote: "@MVPGuineapig: There's so many people who can't compete in leagues even if they want to.. are you mocking them?" Those players should get better and qualify. some players aren't lucky enough to be born outside of korea and get on a rich non-korean team and get flown to foreign events and play foreigners to get an invite to a korean tournament | ||
KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:05 GrimOni wrote: Show nested quote + On December 13 2011 21:59 MarinePrince wrote: Sheesh... The Koreans are overreacting. It wouldn't be such a huge problem if a Korean had done it. They're starting a Naniwa "witch" hunt... and making themselves look bad. Don't take it personally, you guys. I don't think the Koreans are the ones who look bad in this situation... Coca, Choya, Byun... They all broke rules and exploited systems to their adventage, or at least tried to. We forgave them after a punishment that was quite small.(Which is perfectly fine imho) Naniwa drone rushes in a meaningless game and people almost want to sue him. What.The.Bloody.Hell.People need to get their shit together. | ||
WigglingSquid
5194 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:05 careohx wrote: "@MVPGuineapig: There's so many people who can't compete in leagues even if they want to.. are you mocking them?" Those players should get better and qualify. Not everyone has a deep-pocketed team that can send you around winning (relatively) easy international tournaments. | ||
kurrysauce
272 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:02 ikona wrote: Show nested quote + On December 13 2011 21:56 Yekke wrote: The difference between idra's 6 pool and naniwa's probe rush is that idra actually micro'd and tried to win. naniwa wasnt trying. This is perfect example of "double standards" our community uses. You try to convince us Idra even considers 6 pool valid strat. Really? ^what this guy said. I think it's an overreaction tbh. the games didn't matter anymore . Sure he might have offended the koreans , but I think for our community to react like this and give naniwa shit is uncalled for. I bet if it were an MLG and a player didn't show up for the .. let say 10-12th place match or something , they wouldn't get any flak for it. | ||
Waterflow
Sweden1550 Posts
"What's the most angering is that Nestea practiced hard into the night to practice yesterday, even though it was his birthday." uh.... and NaNiwa is supposed to know that it was Nesteas birthday? lol..... this is like a fucking soap opera. Soon NaNiwa will probably need a bodyguard to smash some faces. | ||
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