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On November 18 2011 07:16 sinani206 wrote: neither defended each other
Yawn, if you guys really think kenpachi is a better lynch than sinani in regards to people trolling/lurking in the game then that's just sad.
I don't mind getting lynched, but I'd rather kenpachi doesn't. On November 17 2011 07:54 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 07:52 Palmar wrote: I don't think Kenpachi will be missed anyway, he's completely useless as either side. He has never missed a vigi shot So please explain how that isn't Chaoser defending Kenpachi. If it is him defending Kenpachi, should you be lynched under LaL?
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On November 18 2011 07:20 Tyrran wrote: So within four hours, we must focus on getting another lynch. We already have 2 people a 8 votes, i suggest we focus on them. Both look scummy, both are in my likely scum list, yet Drazerk voted for Sinani206 so its unlikely that both are scum.
First of all, Sinani was a big partisan of dividing our attention . Quite amusingly he used the divide and conquer analogy, where as pointed by WBG, you are suppose to divide you enemy. Meaning we town are the enemy?
He Bandwagoned against Lanaia, which as i explained before, is something that is very pro-mafia. Just look at his post just before, when we already established that Lanaia should not be lynched. Both his votes are given without any explanation other than "its obvious". He is either scum or an extremely bad town. Even Drazerk looks good in comparison. I dont think town needs him.
##Vote Sinani206
lololol hypocrite
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On November 18 2011 07:21 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:Show nested quote + Yawn, if you guys really think kenpachi is a better lynch than sinani in regards to people trolling/lurking in the game then that's just sad.
Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 07:54 chaoser wrote:On November 17 2011 07:52 Palmar wrote: I don't think Kenpachi will be missed anyway, he's completely useless as either side. He has never missed a vigi shot So please explain how that isn't Chaoser defending Kenpachi. If it is him defending Kenpachi, should you be lynched under LaL?
oh didnt see that post lol
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On November 18 2011 07:22 sinani206 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 07:20 Tyrran wrote: So within four hours, we must focus on getting another lynch. We already have 2 people a 8 votes, i suggest we focus on them. Both look scummy, both are in my likely scum list, yet Drazerk voted for Sinani206 so its unlikely that both are scum.
First of all, Sinani was a big partisan of dividing our attention . Quite amusingly he used the divide and conquer analogy, where as pointed by WBG, you are suppose to divide you enemy. Meaning we town are the enemy?
He Bandwagoned against Lanaia, which as i explained before, is something that is very pro-mafia. Just look at his post just before, when we already established that Lanaia should not be lynched. Both his votes are given without any explanation other than "its obvious". He is either scum or an extremely bad town. Even Drazerk looks good in comparison. I dont think town needs him.
##Vote Sinani206
lololol hypocrite
Great defense.
I will remind you that I voted kenpachi only becaused i agreed with risk.nuke that this was the rigth way to proceed. And i will redirect you to This post where i explain why mafia would press charges on Lanaia, and thus why those who blindly voted for her are suspects.
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also except for the last one, which is the one i was talking about in that last post, those posts are just telling teh nubz his meta
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On November 18 2011 07:27 Tyrran wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 07:22 sinani206 wrote:On November 18 2011 07:20 Tyrran wrote: So within four hours, we must focus on getting another lynch. We already have 2 people a 8 votes, i suggest we focus on them. Both look scummy, both are in my likely scum list, yet Drazerk voted for Sinani206 so its unlikely that both are scum.
First of all, Sinani was a big partisan of dividing our attention . Quite amusingly he used the divide and conquer analogy, where as pointed by WBG, you are suppose to divide you enemy. Meaning we town are the enemy?
He Bandwagoned against Lanaia, which as i explained before, is something that is very pro-mafia. Just look at his post just before, when we already established that Lanaia should not be lynched. Both his votes are given without any explanation other than "its obvious". He is either scum or an extremely bad town. Even Drazerk looks good in comparison. I dont think town needs him.
##Vote Sinani206
lololol hypocrite Great defense. I will remind you that I voted kenpachi only becaused i agreed with risk.nuke that this was the rigth way to proceed. And i will redirect you to This post where i explain why mafia would press charges on Lanaia, and thus why those who blindly voted for her are suspects.
your bandwagoning on me when you vote me for bandwagoning
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On November 18 2011 07:27 Tyrran wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 07:22 sinani206 wrote:On November 18 2011 07:20 Tyrran wrote: So within four hours, we must focus on getting another lynch. We already have 2 people a 8 votes, i suggest we focus on them. Both look scummy, both are in my likely scum list, yet Drazerk voted for Sinani206 so its unlikely that both are scum.
First of all, Sinani was a big partisan of dividing our attention . Quite amusingly he used the divide and conquer analogy, where as pointed by WBG, you are suppose to divide you enemy. Meaning we town are the enemy?
He Bandwagoned against Lanaia, which as i explained before, is something that is very pro-mafia. Just look at his post just before, when we already established that Lanaia should not be lynched. Both his votes are given without any explanation other than "its obvious". He is either scum or an extremely bad town. Even Drazerk looks good in comparison. I dont think town needs him.
##Vote Sinani206
lololol hypocrite Great defense. I will remind you that I voted kenpachi only becaused i agreed with risk.nuke that this was the rigth way to proceed. And i will redirect you to This post where i explain why mafia would press charges on Lanaia, and thus why those who blindly voted for her are suspects.
That post of you made totally wrong implications and assumptions. Read my respond to that.
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Back. Three and a half hour left in the game. I´d like for us to agree on at least one more lynch during the next 2 hours, and then be content with that. I don´t want to see a crazy bandwagon the last 15 minutes in the day, because someone gets brilliant idea, crazy plan, or just feel like killing someone.
On November 18 2011 04:16 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Well thats enough derping around, refreshing the page and wishing someone would post something. Anyone doing the same, who isn't currently voting on Chaoser, what is your stance on him and why?
Similarly, anyone who's played with Prplhz/Sinani before and isn't voting them, what is your take on their current alignments? They both seem to do the same thing every game, and they are doing it
We have currently killed someone for lurking. Personally I don't want a Sinani lynch to happen right now, but it's better than none. I feel like Chaosers flip will provide us with more information and a much higher chance of hitting scum than Prplhz flipping, based off both reputations and actions so far in game.
Those are the three candidates I'm currently willing to consider, outside of making Drazerk prove his claim. As I've said before, more than three lynches is something I don't want to risk. Earlier I disliked the Chaoser lynch because it felt like everyone wanted it, it didn´t think it would look like that if he was scum. I´m not as sure now, because the pressure on him hasn´t risen since yesterday, I guess it depends on if he´s shaping up or scum don´t want to hammer one of their own. I still think we should keep him alive, because he HAS shaped up since the first random votes. Perhaps not by much. Either way I don´t think we should kill ALL our veterans before they get a chance to contribute, they can´t all be scum after all.
On November 18 2011 01:34 hyshes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 01:28 Forumite wrote:On November 17 2011 22:13 xsksc wrote:I was asleep while all that shit went down last night I can't help it man, when I'm on nothing happens. I posted my analysis a couple of hours ago and not much has happened since then. What are your current reads forumite? Still think think I'm newbie scum based on my hello post? Cause honestly, that was a pretty silly case. Yeah, I don´t think you are scum, I still want you active in the game. The original case was a gamble, scum have been caught by things like that. It didn´t work now, but I also have your word that you are going to contribute despite being a new player, so it´s still a win! I´m agreeing with Palmar, we need another lynch, ONE by the way, not 5. I don´t want Chaoser or Lalala lynched. I have to run now, but will be back several hours before the lynch. Than who would you suggest? When I posted and went offline, I had my eye on Bumatlarge. He´s been pointed out as scummy by several players, more than the 4 votes would suggest, unlike the Drazerk bandwagon that flared up over a few hours and have twice the number of votes now. Part of the reason I want him lynched is that I want to know how good Chaoser, Kenpachi and Palmar really are.
##Vote: bumatlarge
I really don´t like Drazerk's hint that he is unlynchable, either it´s a stupid powerclaim or an arrogant scumclaim, none of which is very flattering to his ability. I haven´t looked closer at him than that yet.
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I have reasons to believe Sinani is town. leave Sinani alone!
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On November 18 2011 01:45 hyshes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 19:53 Tyrran wrote:* Hyshes : On November 17 2011 06:21 hyshes wrote:On November 17 2011 06:01 Zephirdd wrote:Huh, I just found this on our beautiful bot-induced vote system. Kenpachi (4): bumatlarge, DCLXVI, prplhz, Drazerk, Zephirdd, Lanaia (Anti-Vote) Now, looking through his filters, Lanaia has not made an statement on voting Kenpachi, except that he prefers to vote on sinani over him. Which means that, either the system is bugged(unlikely), or Lanaia has the ability to anti-vote someone through PM. Looking through the roles, the closest I've found is "Double Voter", but I assume anti-voting is a variation of that. Which means Lanaia is not green(assuming green = vanilla town) So either Lanaia is scum or Lanaia is a blue to be killed. The question is: which one? And if he doesn't die next day, can we confirm he is scum or maybe the Mafia just want us to believe that? And why would he want Kenpachi to not die(anti-voting him)? I'd like to have these questions clarified or at least discussed, I got really confused right now. only scum would defend lurkers. ##vote: Lanaia With this in mind, the fact that he jumped extremely quickly on the Lanaia bandwagon with the only excuse "only scum would defend a lurker" is extremelly scummy. N ot only that, but while this statement suggest that Kenpachi is also scum, he did not vote for him, focusing only on Lanaia. This is very suspect. Note that he later 'said' that it would be weird if Lanaia did this as scum, but did not remove his vote! bold text: no it does not.. lurkers are good for scum. Scum defending a lurker doesn't mean the lurker is scum.
Okay, maybe you did not mean that, and did not push your reasonning far enough. Lanaia was not only defending a lurker, she was defending a lurker while telling us to vote for another lurker (Sinani201, who was lurking at the time, only making a couple post about his divide and conquer stuff). So whe clearly did not want to just save 'a' lurker, she wanted to save 'this' lurker.
italic text: I did not say that. I said: Show nested quote + You make a good point about lanaia. If she knew it would be public, it would be very weird that she did it as scum.
This does not imply what you say. It would be weird if lanaia did this as scum knowing we would see the vote.. We can't be sure if she knew.
Zona made a post on how the votes shown where working as intended. You just dont give a power to a scum without telling him that the town will be aware of when he used it. That makes no sense at all.
That being said, i'm not voting for you rigth now. Your post are far less useless than Sinani's, you'll have plenty of time to convince me that you are town
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On November 18 2011 07:46 Kenpachi wrote: I have reasons to believe Sinani is town. leave Sinani alone!
And I suppose you cant give us these reasons ?
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On November 18 2011 07:49 Tyrran wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 07:46 Kenpachi wrote: I have reasons to believe Sinani is town. leave Sinani alone! And I suppose you cant give us these reasons ? Hes playing exactly like me a while ago lol. Plus, his actions are too rash to be mafia anyways
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On November 18 2011 07:20 Tyrran wrote: So within four hours, we must focus on getting another lynch. We already have 2 people a 8 votes, i suggest we focus on them. Both look scummy, both are in my likely scum list, yet Drazerk voted for Sinani206 so its unlikely that both are scum. I have 2 problems with this. First, if we wait until the last hour without lynching someone, then we will most likely get stressed and desperate to get another player lynched, and we are going to make mistakes. In the confusion Scum can easily sway Town and later blame the confusion for their anti-Town behavior. If there´s no other lynch an hour before lynch then we should let it be and be content. Second, if there are 5 Townvotes on two players, one Town and one Scum, then Scum are putting two of their own votes on the Town to push it to 7v5. Sinani206 and Drazerk are definetly suspicious, but I don´t want us to ignore Coagulation or bumatlarge, I think all 4 are worth looking at, and with 4 there´s a greater chance of a scum among them, forcing the others to speak up.
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I also agree that Bum is suspicious, havent read much on Coag, i'll try to sleep a little less and do that :p
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Insanity laughs under pressure we're cracking Can't we give ourselves one more chance Why can't we give love that one more chance Why can't we give love give love give love give love give love give love give love give love give love 'Cause love's such an old fashioned word And love dares you to care for The people on the edge of the night And loves dares you to change our way of Caring about ourselves This is our last dance This is our last dance This is ourselves Under pressure
##Vote Bumatlarge ##Vote Nisani201 ##Vote chaoser ##Vote Lemonwalrus
##Unvote Drazerk ##Unvote Coagulation
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On November 17 2011 09:11 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 09:10 Kenpachi wrote:On November 17 2011 09:08 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On November 17 2011 08:58 Kenpachi wrote:On November 17 2011 08:49 Kenpachi wrote: ill claim when we hit 12!1!11!!! now that i proved that you guys are indeed retards, i have no regrets. implies i have a role On November 17 2011 08:59 Kenpachi wrote: didnt want to. im against claiming On November 15 2011 13:29 Kenpachi wrote: real long day ok. hi i am Kenpachi and i am a Townie welcome to TL mafia to those who are just starting and i hope you have a good time here.
That is two lies in a game where we should be lynching all liars. ##Unvote: Coagulation##Vote: KenpachiTyping ## and : is a pain. Kk you suck. Scumteam: Hiroruby Drazerk Cyber_Cheese Unlike you I will never be lynched though Either he is doing a careless and unnecessary blueclaim, or a careless and unneccessary scumclaim.
##Vote: Drazerk
On November 17 2011 09:59 sinani206 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 09:48 chaoser wrote:On November 17 2011 09:45 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On November 17 2011 09:42 chaoser wrote:On November 17 2011 09:41 DCLXVI wrote:On November 17 2011 09:32 chaoser wrote:On November 17 2011 09:28 DCLXVI wrote:really kenpachi? I don't know you but I didn't expect you to whine so much and give up. Even if the town is bad, you can at least try pointing out their errors instead of just bitching. @Zona can he be put on the banlist for this? I certainly don't want to play with him again: Play to win. Make your posts, and choose targets for your actions in order to help your team achieve its win condition. How can you say he didn't play to win? His case prompted a lot of discussion and activity. Get off your high horse; you're sure as hell not good enough to be bitching about Kenpachi "whining and giving up". since when is it a prerequisite to be good at this game to say that this means someone gave up? + Show Spoiler +On November 17 2011 06:41 Kenpachi wrote: lol town sucks On November 17 2011 06:44 Kenpachi wrote: alright, tell me. Where is this day going? its going to shit. you know why? you guys are lynching me. Fact: When town lynches a town Kenpachi, they lose. you know why? because town sucks.
Killing off inactives with lynches is just so bad. lrn2play On November 17 2011 06:48 Kenpachi wrote: im going to fucking shoot myself. Walrus and risk.nuke need more experience because this is ridiculous On November 17 2011 06:55 Kenpachi wrote: i can do better than that. you guys are just so demoralizing On November 17 2011 07:06 Kenpachi wrote: very well. gg i surrender you win mafia On November 17 2011 07:07 Kenpachi wrote: "gg i surrender" On November 17 2011 08:51 Kenpachi wrote: No i want to piss you all off On November 17 2011 08:57 Kenpachi wrote: ##Vote: Kenpachi Im the Doctor that can only protect greens. oh and i also function as a watcher.
On November 17 2011 08:58 Kenpachi wrote:now that i proved that you guys are indeed retards, i have no regrets. implies i have a role On November 17 2011 09:06 Kenpachi wrote: This is the first in a long time since i went defeatist. the first time, i was really bad. this time, you deserved the punishment. srs and it goes on.... Kenpachi is way better than you are. I don't think he's missed a single vigi shot at mafia and I'd sure as hell rather have him at end game than you. When he flips scum who was relying on his reputation, you'll be eating those words. Or you'll be eating your words when lanaia, me and kenpachi all flip town. WTF is the point of that post? I thought we already discussed the difference between a winning decision and a smart decision in Team Melee Mafia. I'd rather lynch hiroruby, a smart choice than kenpachi, a bad choice. Seriously go fuck yourself, I'm done playing TL mafia; after this game I'll be co-hosting/hosting only. umadbro? I don´t know what he´s doing, taunting to make Chaoser slip, or just being irritating, but I don´t like the style. For some reason I often connect acting like this to scum.
##Vote: sinani206
On November 17 2011 20:24 Coagulation wrote: Who the fuck you calling useless as town?
I fucking snipe godfathers constantly. But you are not doing anything here, in this game. Shape up, please? If the please isn´t enough then perhaps pressure will help.
##Vote: Coagulation
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I must have missed something, why are people unvoting Drazerk?
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On November 18 2011 08:03 Palmar wrote: Insanity laughs under pressure we're cracking Can't we give ourselves one more chance Why can't we give love that one more chance Why can't we give love give love give love give love give love give love give love give love give love 'Cause love's such an old fashioned word And love dares you to care for The people on the edge of the night And loves dares you to change our way of Caring about ourselves This is our last dance This is our last dance This is ourselves Under pressure
##Vote Bumatlarge ##Vote Nisani201 ##Vote chaoser ##Vote Lemonwalrus
##Unvote Drazerk ##Unvote Coagulation Is concerned Chaoser has a vote-triggered ability. Votes for more people than anyone else. Makes perfect sense.
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On November 18 2011 06:55 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 23:19 Zephirdd wrote: Not that much related, it's just that Kenpachi defended chaoser and chaoser defended Kenpachi to death; Kenpachi's flip has more to do with Lanaia tbh. Again, I'll back off for now; given enough votes and arguments, however, I'm willing to lynch someone else IF I consider it to be the right choice(aka. people convince me). when?
My bad.
Chaoser defended Kenpachi, and that's it. My mind went "chaoser defend Kenpachi -> Kenpachi and chaoser have a connection", and I made that connection when I still had thoughts on Kenpachi being scum. Kenpachi's flip won't determine anything about chaoser, but his reaction to it will IMO.
Which means Kenpachi's flip will only softclaim Lanaia, as he said.
moving on; I'm really interested in Drazerk's claim that he can't be lynched. He either has the ability to stop lynches, or he is lynchproof, or he is lying. Either way, a lynch on him would determine whether he is lying or not, and I don't get the feeling he is.
I'll place a vote on Drazerk for that, but I sincerely honestly hope that whoever has the ability to hammer it down think about it; I won't be here at the day cycle end, and I wouldn't be able to unvote given necessity. ##Vote: Drazerk
Also...
Insanity laughs under pressure we're cracking Can't we give ourselves one more chance Why can't we give love that one more chance Why can't we give love give love give love give love give love give love give love give love give love 'Cause love's such an old fashioned word And love dares you to care for The people on the edge of the night And loves dares you to change our way of Caring about ourselves This is our last dance This is our last dance This is ourselves Under pressure
##Vote Bumatlarge ##Vote Nisani201 ##Vote chaoser ##Vote Lemonwalrus
##Unvote Drazerk ##Unvote Coagulation
WHAT THE FUCK?
I've heard about the use of enigmas or stuff in forum Mafia games, but what the hell is that?! :O
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On November 18 2011 08:10 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 08:03 Palmar wrote: Insanity laughs under pressure we're cracking Can't we give ourselves one more chance Why can't we give love that one more chance Why can't we give love give love give love give love give love give love give love give love give love 'Cause love's such an old fashioned word And love dares you to care for The people on the edge of the night And loves dares you to change our way of Caring about ourselves This is our last dance This is our last dance This is ourselves Under pressure
##Vote Bumatlarge ##Vote Nisani201 ##Vote chaoser ##Vote Lemonwalrus
##Unvote Drazerk ##Unvote Coagulation Is concerned Chaoser has a vote-triggered ability. Votes for more people than anyone else. Makes perfect sense. EBWOP: Alright, so now Forumite has passed you in voting. You're only second. Same difference.
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