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On September 21 2011 22:48 BarbieHsu wrote: Sad about IMYoda. Seems almost Code S quality, imo. But Sage is better. Yes if S stands for semi-decent. He is just... much worse than Sage.
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I can't believe Tester lost when he was up by over 40 food in the first game. He played horribly. 5 protoss would feel so much better.
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On September 22 2011 01:18 7mk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 23:58 Solinos wrote:On September 21 2011 23:40 SolidMustard wrote:On September 21 2011 23:24 Jinivus wrote: Protoss already like 10-30, in GSL + AOL...all but 1 win coming from mostly mediocre Code a players...I hope that 1 immortal range has I bigger impact than it seems. there's not only the immortal range buff, you have to take into account the barracks building time nerf, and the infestor nerf too... I'm not sure how much it's gonna help balance protoss back to normal but it's not only the immortal The barracks timing nerf doesn't really matter much in TvP. It doesn't really slow any of the difficult pushes down, or delay any of the tech that P has a hard time dealing with. In any case, sad to see Huk go down, but I'm glad he's staying in Code S. Likewise, really happy to see Sage advance, and sad about Nani I couldn't really figure out what Naniwa's plan for game 2 was. He had great control and was able to survive much longer than I thought he would, but it never seemed like he put any pressure on, or was building up to something that would be a killing blow of sorts. Oh well. I dont get the "it doesnt delay any of the tech that P has a hard time dealing with".argument I mean it delays ALL tech at least by those 5 ingame seconds, doesnt it.
do you throw down a factory the moment you rax finishes?, if the answer is no, then it does not affect your tech.
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What's going on with Naniwa, seems his play hasn't improved much since his departure to korea =/
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On September 22 2011 05:32 Zorgaz wrote: What's going on with Naniwa, seems his play hasn't improved much since his departure to korea =/ Tbh he looks like any other professional protoss in korea. Meaning not winning at the moment.
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On September 22 2011 04:51 ProxyKnoxy wrote: Naniwa went stargate again? I swear that's all he does vs Zerg - he did it twice in his matches against Check. He needs to stop moaning about Protoss as its ruining his mentality for practice.. That's what most Protoss are doing.
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On September 22 2011 05:35 Valikyr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 05:32 Zorgaz wrote: What's going on with Naniwa, seems his play hasn't improved much since his departure to korea =/ Tbh he looks like any other professional protoss in korea. Meaning not winning at the moment.
100% this. Naniwa looked like another Protoss in Korea trying to survive the current state of the brutal PvT / PvZ metagames.
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On September 22 2011 05:39 ZAiNs wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 04:51 ProxyKnoxy wrote: Naniwa went stargate again? I swear that's all he does vs Zerg - he did it twice in his matches against Check. He needs to stop moaning about Protoss as its ruining his mentality for practice.. That's what most Protoss are doing. Stargate is the way to go in PvZ. Hero is the best PvZer and he goes stargate every single game.
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Naniwa's shit lol, everyone game him so much credit when he went 26-2 at Dallas but since then and since he actually started playing real players, he hasn't been able to do anything. For anyone saying he's protoss so it's harder for him, look at fucking Sage. He's only known in the team league yet he's an incredible protoss if you watch his gp and IMO he beat a much more known opponent.
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Holy smokes a Protoss actually won a series.
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On September 22 2011 05:57 LiamTheZerg wrote: Naniwa's shit lol, everyone game him so much credit when he went 26-2 at Dallas but since then and since he actually started playing real players, he hasn't been able to do anything. For anyone saying he's protoss so it's harder for him, look at fucking Sage. He's only known in the team league yet he's an incredible protoss if you watch his gp and IMO he beat a much more known opponent.
For every 1 Protoss player you point out that is "doing amazing" I can point out 5 that are getting annihilated.
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On September 22 2011 05:47 0ne wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 05:39 ZAiNs wrote:On September 22 2011 04:51 ProxyKnoxy wrote: Naniwa went stargate again? I swear that's all he does vs Zerg - he did it twice in his matches against Check. He needs to stop moaning about Protoss as its ruining his mentality for practice.. That's what most Protoss are doing. Stargate is the way to go in PvZ. Hero is the best PvZer and he goes stargate every single game. The only good zerg player hero has beaten is dongraegu who has notoriously vulnerable in ZvP anyway so how can you declare him best ZvP? He just got freakin raped by Losira.
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On September 22 2011 05:57 LiamTheZerg wrote: Naniwa's shit lol, everyone game him so much credit when he went 26-2 at Dallas but since then and since he actually started playing real players, he hasn't been able to do anything. For anyone saying he's protoss so it's harder for him, look at fucking Sage. He's only known in the team league yet he's an incredible protoss if you watch his gp and IMO he beat a much more known opponent. if you say naniwa is garbage, then by your logic: every korean protoss (including MC) except Genius and Sage are terrible then
+ Show Spoiler [naniwa's stats] +All: 332-178 (65.10%) vT: 158-79 (66.67%) vZ: 73-42 (63.48%) vP: 101-57 (63.92%)
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On September 22 2011 06:03 Olinim wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 05:47 0ne wrote:On September 22 2011 05:39 ZAiNs wrote:On September 22 2011 04:51 ProxyKnoxy wrote: Naniwa went stargate again? I swear that's all he does vs Zerg - he did it twice in his matches against Check. He needs to stop moaning about Protoss as its ruining his mentality for practice.. That's what most Protoss are doing. Stargate is the way to go in PvZ. Hero is the best PvZer and he goes stargate every single game. The only good zerg player hero has beaten is dongraegu who has notoriously vulnerable in ZvP anyway so how can you declare him best ZvP? He just got freakin raped by Losira.
Losira has the best ZvP in the world though. At least Hero is doing some unusual stuff.
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On September 22 2011 06:08 Clog wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 06:03 Olinim wrote:On September 22 2011 05:47 0ne wrote:On September 22 2011 05:39 ZAiNs wrote:On September 22 2011 04:51 ProxyKnoxy wrote: Naniwa went stargate again? I swear that's all he does vs Zerg - he did it twice in his matches against Check. He needs to stop moaning about Protoss as its ruining his mentality for practice.. That's what most Protoss are doing. Stargate is the way to go in PvZ. Hero is the best PvZer and he goes stargate every single game. The only good zerg player hero has beaten is dongraegu who has notoriously vulnerable in ZvP anyway so how can you declare him best ZvP? He just got freakin raped by Losira. Losira has the best ZvP in the world though. At least Hero is doing some unusual stuff. Just saying let's actually see him beat a good ZvP player...
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No Code A Ro16 liquibet huh?
Smh....
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On September 22 2011 06:08 Clog wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 06:03 Olinim wrote:On September 22 2011 05:47 0ne wrote:On September 22 2011 05:39 ZAiNs wrote:On September 22 2011 04:51 ProxyKnoxy wrote: Naniwa went stargate again? I swear that's all he does vs Zerg - he did it twice in his matches against Check. He needs to stop moaning about Protoss as its ruining his mentality for practice.. That's what most Protoss are doing. Stargate is the way to go in PvZ. Hero is the best PvZer and he goes stargate every single game. The only good zerg player hero has beaten is dongraegu who has notoriously vulnerable in ZvP anyway so how can you declare him best ZvP? He just got freakin raped by Losira. Losira has the best ZvP in the world though. At least Hero is doing some unusual stuff.
LOL, yes. Doing "unusual stuff" must be good. It must mean he is being innovative.
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On September 22 2011 06:03 Olinim wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 05:47 0ne wrote:On September 22 2011 05:39 ZAiNs wrote:On September 22 2011 04:51 ProxyKnoxy wrote: Naniwa went stargate again? I swear that's all he does vs Zerg - he did it twice in his matches against Check. He needs to stop moaning about Protoss as its ruining his mentality for practice.. That's what most Protoss are doing. Stargate is the way to go in PvZ. Hero is the best PvZer and he goes stargate every single game. The only good zerg player hero has beaten is dongraegu who has notoriously vulnerable in ZvP anyway so how can you declare him best ZvP? He just got freakin raped by Losira.
Hero beat DRG in Code A qualifiers several months ago. Since then DRG has beaten him both times they met. Once in the GSTL, once at MLG.
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On September 22 2011 06:23 sitromit wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 06:03 Olinim wrote:On September 22 2011 05:47 0ne wrote:On September 22 2011 05:39 ZAiNs wrote:On September 22 2011 04:51 ProxyKnoxy wrote: Naniwa went stargate again? I swear that's all he does vs Zerg - he did it twice in his matches against Check. He needs to stop moaning about Protoss as its ruining his mentality for practice.. That's what most Protoss are doing. Stargate is the way to go in PvZ. Hero is the best PvZer and he goes stargate every single game. The only good zerg player hero has beaten is dongraegu who has notoriously vulnerable in ZvP anyway so how can you declare him best ZvP? He just got freakin raped by Losira. Hero beat DRG in Code A qualifiers several months ago. Since then DRG has beaten him both times they met. Once in the GSTL, once at MLG. I know but the series ended 3-4 so it is notable. Anyway my point stands Hero has never beaten any good ZvP players except dongraegu that one time.
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Remember the stupid extended series rule at MLG, so technically HerO would have won the second time they met (I think).
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