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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
On September 18 2011 15:32 Archon_Toilet wrote: So many people yelling at each other, hard to read what is going on. Many plans and ideas, some good some bad. People who are making plans are probably not mafia, even if bad plans. Sauron would want us to not be planning, yes? All the people talking about ideas are not Mafia we need to look at the others. All the guys talking lots lik bugs, TranceStorm etc are probably fine just giving bad ideas. We should kill GGQ. Happy to hide and let everyone yell at each other. He only talk when the arguing has died down and only make one line posts, just trying to make the 5 posts. He make excuse and sorry about making bad suspicion, promise to come back and say more but never did. Vote igrok when he said there are no good candidates? Then try to direct vote? Add another suspicion on Vain for no reason just muddy the waters. So wishy-washy too. We should push him into mount doom. ##Push GGQ into the fire Those parts were actually me quoting iGrok before voting for him. So yeah, your case on me is based on things I didn't say, and were in fact said by the person I voted for. Feel free to change your vote to iGrok if you still think those are scummy things to say, though. | ||
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Erandorr
2283 Posts
iGrok, who do you think should get lynched today? | ||
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Erandorr
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
On September 19 2011 00:57 Erandorr wrote: GGQ while we are at it, what are your thoughts for day 1? Could you be any more specific? I think iGrock and prplhz are the best votes. wbg a better vig shot than a lynch. The others (drazerk trancestorm, navillus) seem just as likely to be noobtown as mafia. | ||
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Navillus
United States1188 Posts
##Vote pphlz Ciryandor has done nice little soft defends of him at least twice now, the first time saying that pphlz is a "good guy" the second he tries to use his inactive lynch idea to divert attention specifically from pphlz, so I say we lynch pphlz, then if he flips red we've got another definite red in Ciryandor. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On September 19 2011 00:50 chaoser wrote: Kira an, what do you think about navillus and prphlz? prplhz hasn't really stood out to me one way or another. He used his first few posts to talk about flavor, but so has half the other players in the game. The only thing that gives me bad vibes is that when he posted his list of candidates, he included nav based on others arguments rather than sharing his own opinion. nav opened the game with that "rage" vt role claim, but then he followed up with his name claim, which I'm not sure scum would so willingly give up. I don't like the fact that he is trying to show that he is bad at the game, however. On September 19 2011 01:02 Navillus wrote: Oh my wow... Please filter Ciryandor's posts, it's a big collection of "well I think X but maybe not X and Y is also possible but maybe we shouldn't because bad stuff could happen" He's super indecisive about his thoughts, then instead of giving a real opinion he decides to vote for inactives over any of the people who actually have cases made against them, this is very scummy this late because he's voting for someone with almost no chance of getting lynched AND with very little reasoning to back it up because he's inactive, this allows scum to get away with meaningless votes that don't tell us anything about them, or if we do manage to lynch an inactive it won't be a scum one because they'll shift the vote to a town inactive since, you know, we can't tell the difference. They're inactives. Now as I mentioned, it's late in the day so I don't think I can get him lynched so I'll leave it at FOS Ciryandor but on a very related note ##Vote pphlz Ciryandor has done nice little soft defends of him at least twice now, the first time saying that pphlz is a "good guy" the second he tries to use his inactive lynch idea to divert attention specifically from pphlz, so I say we lynch pphlz, then if he flips red we've got another definite red in Ciryandor. To be honest, this post right above me might be his biggest fault. The fact that he spends an entire post about Ciryandor and then manages to squeeze a prplhz vote right in the middle without giving a reason other than "I can't get him lynched". TranceStorm is guilty for the same thing a few posts earlier. chaoser, what is your opinion on nav? Are you still sticking to prplhz? JeeJee and Radfield dropping off the face of the earth makes me uneasy and Erandorr, I'd like to hear more of your opinion rather than you asking others for theirs. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
Those who's votes are not on the main lynch candidates need to get them on the (at least) 3 main targets. The more scattered the votes are, the more beneficial for the scum. It looks like WBG, prpl, and jackal are the front runners. It worries me how quickly the votes for jackal piled up, although he was inactive until recently. So cyber, JeeJee, GGQ, drh, cir...could you put your votes in a place where they will be useful? Now that I think about it, we haven't ears for drh or radfield in a while. | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
On September 19 2011 01:02 Navillus wrote: Oh my wow... Please filter Ciryandor's posts, it's a big collection of "well I think X but maybe not X and Y is also possible but maybe we shouldn't because bad stuff could happen" He's super indecisive about his thoughts, then instead of giving a real opinion he decides to vote for inactives over any of the people who actually have cases made against them, this is very scummy this late because he's voting for someone with almost no chance of getting lynched AND with very little reasoning to back it up because he's inactive, this allows scum to get away with meaningless votes that don't tell us anything about them, or if we do manage to lynch an inactive it won't be a scum one because they'll shift the vote to a town inactive since, you know, we can't tell the difference. They're inactives. Now as I mentioned, it's late in the day so I don't think I can get him lynched so I'll leave it at FOS Ciryandor but on a very related note ##Vote pphlz Ciryandor has done nice little soft defends of him at least twice now, the first time saying that pphlz is a "good guy" the second he tries to use his inactive lynch idea to divert attention specifically from pphlz, so I say we lynch pphlz, then if he flips red we've got another definite red in Ciryandor. And if he flips town? It wouldn't be wyse to lynch people who have put in some contribution, however inane it may sound. I'd rather throw some poor guy who's offering sauce for a reason into the bloody Brandywine than a half senile old man. | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
Getting people off their asses and fishing for reactions should be our Day 1 goal, NOT giving some schmuck who barely scrapes by the anti-lurker guidelines a free pass to winning the game as a deadweight scum or hanging by the coat-tails townie, while the people who are yakking it up and that we have more of a profile of on their desirability for town get targeted just because they're non-committal or obnoxiously loud. | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
##Unvote ##Vote Jackal | ||
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Navillus
United States1188 Posts
On September 19 2011 01:13 kitaman27 wrote: prplhz hasn't really stood out to me one way or another. He used his first few posts to talk about flavor, but so has half the other players in the game. The only thing that gives me bad vibes is that when he posted his list of candidates, he included nav based on others arguments rather than sharing his own opinion. nav opened the game with that "rage" vt role claim, but then he followed up with his name claim, which I'm not sure scum would so willingly give up. I don't like the fact that he is trying to show that he is bad at the game, however. To be honest, this post right above me might be his biggest fault. The fact that he spends an entire post about Ciryandor and then manages to squeeze a prplhz vote right in the middle without giving a reason other than "I can't get him lynched". TranceStorm is guilty for the same thing a few posts earlier. chaoser, what is your opinion on nav? Are you still sticking to prplhz? JeeJee and Radfield dropping off the face of the earth makes me uneasy and Erandorr, I'd like to hear more of your opinion rather than you asking others for theirs. Well to clarify I squeezed the prplhz vote for a few reasons, first I don't like either of the other major candidates -especially Jackal but more on that in a sec- but I also don't want to vote for a candidate that has no shot at getting lynched, as I pointed out that's a pretty scummy thing to do and more importantly gives no help to the town. So that's my reason 1. Then I actually think that he's a good candidate he has been acting very scummy, basically what everyone else who voted for him said. So that's reason 2. Also, though this is smaller, he's one of the votes on Jackal and I just think that whole wagon is very suspicious, Jackal has generally been lurking and acting no different from a few other lurkers, but a wagon just seemed to appear on him, this is a wagon that scum would really want because it's a lurker lynch which is easy for them to go on and Jackal if he's town is someone they'd want particularly out of the way (also I just realized his other vote was on Dr. H, talk about going after vets) So that's my smaller reason 3. Finally Reason 4 which was my explicit one is that I'm getting very suspicious of Ciryandor and he's linked nicely to pplhz so that actually works out great, I lynch my biggest target, stay within the main candidates so scum cant throw the vote in random directions, AND get specific info on someone I'm quite suspicious of. On September 19 2011 01:16 jcarlsoniv wrote: Yeah navi, it was something I was going to bring up later on. Seems as if he's just trying to not take a stance and avoid offending anyone. Those who's votes are not on the main lynch candidates need to get them on the (at least) 3 main targets. The more scattered the votes are, the more beneficial for the scum. It looks like WBG, prpl, and jackal are the front runners. It worries me how quickly the votes for jackal piled up, although he was inactive until recently. So cyber, JeeJee, GGQ, drh, cir...could you put your votes in a place where they will be useful? Now that I think about it, we haven't ears for drh or radfield in a while. Yeah so I just want to emphasize again, jackal's vote is very weird, I would look hard at everyone that jumped on him so quickly. | ||
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Navillus
United States1188 Posts
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Navillus
United States1188 Posts
On September 19 2011 01:54 Ciryandor wrote: You know what, if prplhz gets lynched today, I'm definitely voting Nav for being a blathering senile dwarf with more delusions of grandeur than common sense who's tunneling on me straight through Moria for trying to feel out people on Day 1. Getting people off their asses and fishing for reactions should be our Day 1 goal, NOT giving some schmuck who barely scrapes by the anti-lurker guidelines a free pass to winning the game as a deadweight scum or hanging by the coat-tails townie, while the people who are yakking it up and that we have more of a profile of on their desirability for town get targeted just because they're non-committal or obnoxiously loud. Sorry for the triple post but just saw this too. First I'm an elf not a dwarf. Second this is just confirming my suspicions more and more, I FOS him and he jumps on me with a really REALLy angry OMGUS. And third, please stay civil, if you are town (something I'm doubting more and more by the second) then you really shouldn't be essentially trying to start a fight, making things personal only helps scum. | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
On September 19 2011 02:07 Navillus wrote: Sorry for the triple post but just saw this too. First I'm an elf not a dwarf. Second this is just confirming my suspicions more and more, I FOS him and he jumps on me with a really REALLy angry OMGUS. And third, please stay civil, if you are town (something I'm doubting more and more by the second) then you really shouldn't be essentially trying to start a fight, making things personal only helps scum. Your tunneling makes you look more like an elf with a hard-on for dwarven quarrying every moment you do so; pressuring a person who has at least put in a modest effort to play the game and not try to hide is not productive to what town needs, and that is information on everyone else. So what happens when we get three, maybe four people lynched for being either misinformed or non-committal in their choice of vote, even though they've provided some information regarding other people and themselves? We are left with people we have less to work with, because they haven't been pushed around, and they only have besides their own scant words some non-specific sleuthing from players who we already know the alignment of yet cannot go back on to squeeze them both for more. In short, I want us to vote away from our current front runners to someone else who isn't active entirely. We have the information we need regarding WBG and prp from people's reactions and views to them, woe be to the scum that kills either and proves certain people's conclusions right or wrong; let us get to someone who we'll have a hard time reading because they've been hiding like a thief. | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
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Archon_Toilet
65 Posts
On September 19 2011 00:53 GGQ wrote: Those parts were actually me quoting iGrok before voting for him. So yeah, your case on me is based on things I didn't say, and were in fact said by the person I voted for. Feel free to change your vote to iGrok if you still think those are scummy things to say, though. Oh whoops, the quoting you made didnt work my bad. Im not sure who to vote now. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
If there aren't posts to observe, there aren't patterns to observe, and connections can't be made. You are basically saying "I don't want people to focus on WBG or prpl, and I want to complete turn the votes around with very little left in the day". On top of it, you're getting very personal. What's wrong? Did we offend you and your scum buddies? | ||
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Archon_Toilet
65 Posts
I read igrok's posts and he say he will lynch drazerk early for information which is silly. The argument i make against GGQ was actually said by igrok which I make mistake. I will vote igrok | ||
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