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On September 07 2011 15:40 aNDRoM wrote:I'm over-the-hill compared to you (in my thirties), and I remember college as the best time because I had ready access to my friends like no other time in my life (high school was close, and then after college people move farther away). Since you live on campus, if you can build some good friendships, it can be a great time. Good luck! Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 15:31 Torte de Lini wrote:On September 07 2011 15:30 aNDRoM wrote:On September 07 2011 15:24 Torte de Lini wrote:
Bonaventure. You guys coming to BarCraft? You go to Concordia University?
Nah, I went to high school in Montreal a million years ago. Now I'm in sunny Southern California. Miss the city though. Ugh, wrong country mate. Hey, I'm dual-citizen, Canadian-American, like HuK. And Taiwanese, like SEn. So I'm like HuKSEn or something (not to be confused with TaKeSeN).
Triple-citizen here ;D! Hey-oh!
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Hyrule18920 Posts
First off, puppies and kittens are amazing. How are you gonna go and say new pets suck?
As for the bit in the middle, I didn't read it.
As for the bit in the spoiler, I'm the same way. Get togethers can be really fun (I've gone to a few, mostly stuff from online), and meeting people you've been talking to/with/in the same thread as for a couple years is pretty cool. UPenn is kinda cool I guess, but you guys suck (Drexel woot). We could totally hang out or something.
Okay I read the middle bit now and I guess it's good your room doesn't smell anymore. BW also has lots of newb friendly stuff, it's just that BW so very hard that newb level is still pretty damn hard.
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United States22883 Posts
I don't think there is a method to finding really good friends. A lot of the time you randomly stumble into something, and you just happen to click. Meeting people and doing more activities improves your chances, I suppose, but it can also hurt your chances of making a solid connection when you're in the middle of a big group. I guess my main suggestion is volunteering and service projects. You usually meet like-minded people and you can bond over the work/cause.
Don't fret about it too much. Sounds like you're a bit lonely, but it's better to be lonely than desperate.
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We have a very different definition of turn ons. I prefer a piano that is plain and sounds perfectly than an intensely decorated one. Idk maybe those were meticulously crafted as well as designed but my initial reaction is they will sound average while looking astounding.
I guess I'm just a simple man.
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Come out to MLG to hangout with fellow nerds and maybe one can spark your interests. Or meet them on TeamLiquid and plan to hangout with them at Starcraft events to get to know them better. I have the same problems when it comes to meeting new people. Most of the new people I've met tend to be fake. Fake in the sense that they call me up if they need something from me or I won't hear from them otherwise.
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Just reading the blog section while waiting for gsl up and down matchups. Where is a good place to meet genuine people? Someone make a Genuine People's club quick!
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@Probe1: Eh, those are not just pretty on the outside.  They are crafted completely by hand over several years. Steinways. o3o They sound amazing too lol, I just happen to like their appearance as well. XD Cost around a million dollars though (literally). >.>
@tofucake: I don't mean new pets suck, I mean when people are like oh just get a new one if your pet dies, cause they think all cats/dogs are the same. Each pet is very different from any other one. Also you live near me?! :D That is awesome! But Drexel not quite so good as Penn. jsuk
@Forgottenfrog: I am going to MLG Providence! Maybe I will meet cool people there! XD
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Hyrule18920 Posts
Yeah I live in South Jersey outside Philly. Also I'm sorry we're not all rich kids, but I assure you Drexel > UPenn anyway.
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Aw God PIANO PRON
You got me insta hard. I'm a music-and-esports nerd as well, I have an associateship in piano performance but that's not my profession =/ As for meeting people, yeah try to show up to barcrafts and stuff like that. You gotta meet a ton of people to find the compatible ones and stuff.
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-.- Don't make assholeish assumptions please. I am poor as fuck. I have no familial support, and got here on a scholarship for my poverty. I work two jobs as well as my fulltime classes. I am a hardworker, not an entitled brat.
@Optical: lol <3 Smexy isn't it? XD
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On September 08 2011 01:23 RedJustice wrote:
-.- Don't make assholeish assumptions please. I am poor as fuck. I have no familial support, and got here on a scholarship for my poverty. I work two jobs as well as my fulltime classes. I am a hardworker, not an entitled brat.
@Optical: lol <3 Smexy isn't it? XD
God you suck at school rivalry and general assumptions :|
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I've been out of university for a few years now, but I had friends at UPenn, and I used to visit them. Isn't there a fairly active on-campus nerd group? Like video games and computer games and stuff? I was visiting a friend a few years back and we found ourselves at an on-campus smash-bro's tourney held like in one of the large student life buildings. Are you part of that club? You should be! Get them into starcraft! (preferably BW, screw beta)
What other interests do you have? At a school as big as UPenn, there is guaranteed to be a group dedicated to whatever you're interested in. Board games? Yeah they got that. Fake sword fighting? Yup, that exists. Medieval ballroom dancing? Yeah there's a club for that too. Student clubs are a fucking blast in college, make use of them! Everyone spends their first few semesters just hanging out with people from their dorms or classes or whatnot, but eventually you'll meet the people you actually want to hang out with. You've just got to go find them. I spent the first half of my freshman year trying to fit in with the girls in my dorm until I met people I actually had things in common with. You certainly don't need to join a sorority or anything, but again student clubs are fantastic ways to meet awesome people.
And the exact same advice goes for dating. You're gorgeous, just get out there. Find some clubs that cater to your interests, go, and meet people. When you're not looking, you'll stumble across the right guy. Teach him BW too plz.
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Sorry, I am a bit touchy about people assuming I am rich because I go to school here. I could not tell that wasn't spr srs.
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Hyrule18920 Posts
On September 08 2011 01:38 Haemonculus wrote:
I've been out of university for a few years now, but I had friends at UPenn, and I used to visit them. Isn't there a fairly active on-campus nerd group? Like video games and computer games and stuff? I was visiting a friend a few years back and we found ourselves at an on-campus smash-bro's tourney held like in one of the large student life buildings. Are you part of that club? You should be! Get them into starcraft! (preferably BW, screw beta)
What other interests do you have? At a school as big as UPenn, there is guaranteed to be a group dedicated to whatever you're interested in. Board games? Yeah they got that. Fake sword fighting? Yup, that exists. Medieval ballroom dancing? Yeah there's a club for that too. Student clubs are a fucking blast in college, make use of them! Everyone spends their first few semesters just hanging out with people from their dorms or classes or whatnot, but eventually you'll meet the people you actually want to hang out with. You've just got to go find them. I spent the first half of my freshman year trying to fit in with the girls in my dorm until I met people I actually had things in common with. You certainly don't need to join a sorority or anything, but again student clubs are fantastic ways to meet awesome people.
And the exact same advice goes for dating. You're gorgeous, just get out there. Find some clubs that cater to your interests, go, and meet people. When you're not looking, you'll stumble across the right guy. Teach him BW too plz.
I participated in that group! It was run by Scar and was basically the melee scene in Philly. Plenty of them played BW (Cactuar and Pakman are the only two I'm certain of). Also Philly clubs suck for the most part. I don't like any of them.
On September 08 2011 01:39 RedJustice wrote:
Sorry, I am a bit touchy about people assuming I am rich because I go to school here. I could not tell that wasn't spr srs.
ahhh you should have known! But I guess it's kinda hard to get tone of voice over the internet :\
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
don't sweat it, forming a good friendship is like building one of those pianos, it takes a lot of time and attention to detail, but once it's finished it plays perfectly
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Be careful of buying cheap viola/violin/cellos...bad strings and harsh sounds can fuck with what you think is the best sound you can get out of the instrument and screw your technique lols >___>;;
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I quit reading your blogs because the one about your ex hit really close to home but this one did too lol.... I was gonna pm you like last time but I guess this one isn't as personal ;P
Like you I was raised on classical music, and as most people know koreans in general want their children to play an instrument very well the most popular instruments being piano and violin.
I started piano when I was 4 years old and played until I was 13. During those 9 years, it became apparent that I had an above average aptitude to playing the piano even compared to ridiculous classical piano standards. In my whole life, playing the piano was probably the thing I was best at. I was offered a spot to attend Juliard's pre-college division and played countless NMFC recitals and other opportunities. I was also part of the Atlanta boy choir, world renown rival to the Vienna boy choir. I got to travel the world and meet people like the Pope and Bill Clinton. I had a high affinity for music my whole life.
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Around the time I hit 10 years old I began to become self-aware that I was no longer playing piano out of my own passion. I was practicing 4 hours a day because my mom wanted me to, and because of my teacher's expectations. I reached a point where I was so far beyond the talent of anyone I personally had met that piano became boring to me and I was not old enough to recognize the enormity of classical music and its impact on humankind.
If you've ever watched the movie Amadeus this next part will make a lot of sense. If not you should watch it....it's a old movie but one of my very favorites and any person who has played an instrument at a high level or appreciates classical music will love it.
I became someone who could instantly see someone play piano for a few minutes and tell if they were any good or not. I wasn't born with perfect pitch but I achieved perfect learned pitch. During the height of my skills, I would see how fast I could memorize 10page pieces just so I could play it without music. I had an obsession to memorize sheet music so I didn't need it at all anymore. When I was 6 or 7 I decided it was ugly when people stopped to turn pages with one hand during a concert.
But shortly after I became self-aware that I wasn't playing piano for myself I also realized that I didn't have a passion for piano. And the last year I played piano I slowly came to the conclusion that I would never be anywhere near the top of the top. Even in my own era, I would not become a piano great...let alone come close to someone like Mozart or Haydn.
The combination of becoming bored, not passionate, and realizing that I could never reach the truly great heights of a classical pianist all crushed my 13-year old self at once and one day I just refused to play. My piano teacher came by and I just sat there on the bench staring at the keys. My mom was distraught and honestly I think she still hates me a bit for it. She mentioned how much of a waste of time and resources and talent it was. But I always would say in my mind that there wasn't enough talent to make it worth me chasing.
I am a strong believer in talent. I see it every day in my hobbies and things I follow. To make a starcraft comparison its similar to watching someone like Jaedong and Flash play. It's amazing that one, let alone two players of that caliber exist in the same generation. Or chess players like magnus carlsen, or talent in the past like Mozart. Their natural-born talent is insurmountable. Because of my views on talent I decided to quit playing and to this day I've only ever really regretted it once or twice....
I think in the world there are very few select fields [ maybe 5 total ] that I would advise someone even thinking about unless they have this immense Mozart level of talent. Classical piano is among them, and I would even actively discourage people from trying to become the best because its a waste of time unless being #1 isn't factored into making them happy. If you want to play piano because it makes you happy even if you're a talentless hack then I'm all for it but in the very specific scenario where you *seem* to be good at it but not 99.9999% sure then I'd say no. This is just my viewpoint and I know its not a popular one.
I learned an important lesson at a young age that you must follow what you are passionate about in life. Your blog brought back a lot of nostalgia for me like all your other ones seem to do... Thanks for sharing RedJustice ^^
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United States335 Posts
As an undergrad performance major in viola, I commend your taste in instruments. Viola FTW!
On September 07 2011 14:01 RedJustice wrote:
Been lurking about BW too, but a bit off-put by the community and the fact that there's not a lot of very newb friendly stuff out there, lol. Just want to be able to watch and appreciate it, but not really interested in playing.
lol we're not that bad, are we? The BW community is going through a bit of a rough patch right now to be sure, but they're a lot more welcoming than you might think. As for noob friendly stuff, a lot of these threads are still really helpful even if they aren't on the cutting edge of pro Korean strategy anymore, Day[9]'s podcasts are still awesome, Liquipedia BW has excellent articles on every matchup, and like Kiante said, Sayle's stream is highly entertaining.
If you wanna play but are intimidated by the high starting skill level on competitive servers, make a post in BW section asking for noobs to practice with, and trust me they'll come out of the woodwork.
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Err, well, BW is very friendly it seems to people who actually want to start playing, but I don't want to play, I just want to watch. I like playing SC2, and I just feel no urge to start playing BW (especially since I barely have time to play SC2 anyway). I feel like I will get a lot of hate for that just because of all the... 'bw dying for the growth of sc2' bullshit that goes down every single time the two are mentioned. I was going to write a big long post in the bw forum that basically boiled down to:
I have a lot of respect for the passion and talent of the BW scene. I would like to be able to watch and appreciate the games that are part of the history of SC. When I watch BW now I have pretty much no understanding of what the hell is happening. I don't want to play the game because I like playing SC2 and I just don't feel attracted to BW (I am shallow and heavily influenced by graphics -.- but probably because I'm an artist) in the same way. I also feel like a lot of the BW scene is falling apart-- teams disbanding, tournaments not so big, etc.etc.-- and while I'm sure it will be around for quite some time, I don't want to dive into a game where I can't find lots of people at my skill level, or the pro scene is getting smaller, and so forth. That's just depressing (I'm sure everyone in the BW forum feels that way). I want to be able to understand and enjoy the glory days of BW.
I think this is legitimate enough for my own reasons, but probably it would blow up, so I didn't post. -.- When I got into SC2 I spent a lot of time watching Husky, because his casts are very newb friendly. But I notice when I watch a BW game Moletrap casts, for example, even with my SC2 knowledge, the combination of bad graphics (I can't tell what things are) and a cast not oriented towards newbs leaves me completely lost.
The sheer volume of stuff out there about BW makes it completely overwhelming to try to find information geared towards someone who just wants to understand what's happening on the screen.
I appreciate the links a lot, and any other suggestions would be <3.
@Ack: It's just as important to realize when you are not super passionate about something I think, or you end up wasting so much time.  I could have gotten a job with the piano, but I also always knew I could never be at the very top. I am passionate about it purely because I love playing.
blogception ftw! XD
@tofucake: You should come if I can get a big viewing party for a tournament or a LAN organized or something.
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