People heard you having explained to you that the people sitting there had won them in a contest, yet you didn't move. The only part where you actually appear to be willing to give up the seats is where you demand _other seats_. 4 or 5 different parties have come forward to say they heard and saw the whole thing and they all tell the same story.
Maybe you should think a bit harder about how you do things at an event where you are clearly representing major players in the scene. After all, the only reason you were allowed to do this shit is _because_ you represent them.
Sadly, I can't really wish for you to fail outright, because that'd probably mean Fnatic's SC2 team fails with you somehow, but I'd sure as hell like to see you disappear.
The only reason you may see TL as more manner is because it is heavily moderated, imo. Otherwise, people will use that freedom to say whatever that's on their mind without thinking twice.
"I was sitting right next to the xeris at that time and this guy didn't explain that he had won his seat or anything. He should have been more clear initially because he just came off as an indignant random spectator trying to reserve a VIP seat lol. those masses of random spectators need to get out of the VIP area zz" -a fnatic player
you realize there are many, many eye-witness acounts of this happening? just diggin' that hole deeper
So people did say he explained he won those seats in a contest, so it looks like kawaiirice is covering for xeris too, which isn't surprising since he's part of fnatic too. However, disappointing kawaiirice would lie like that to cover for xeris.
On August 02 2011 13:05 KawaiiRice wrote: Edit: I remember the guy said "I've been sitting in that seat all day. I had my stuff on there." to explain himself. How are we supposed to interpret this?
I guess this shouldn't surprise me after reading that you weren't capable of ordering your own meal the first time you attended an MLG with your team..
Logically, the first step would have been to not remove the persons belongings and take their seats. After that, when you are told that you have taken a seat that belongs to someone else, that had made an attempt to save it (maybe they needed to use the restroom, etc), you don't interpret anything, its straight forward and clear: Oh these are your seats? We're sorry. If you want to be skeptical and dickish not believing their VIP status, you could find some way of trying to inquire if they have VIP passes without them wanting to spit on your neck for thinking they had to answer to you.
On August 02 2011 13:05 KawaiiRice wrote: I was sitting right next to the xeris at that time and this guy didn't explain that he had won his seat or anything. He should have been more clear initially because he just came off as an indignant random spectator trying to reserve a VIP seat lol. those masses of random spectators need to get out of the VIP area zz Unfortunate series of misunderstandings really. Mlg needs to give these contest winners a special pass maybe.
Edit: I remember the guy said "I've been sitting in that seat all day. I had my stuff on there." to explain himself. How are we supposed to interpret this?
A decent human being wouldnt touch other people's property, I am pretty sure you guys "forgot" to mention that xeris moved that guys stuff off the chair, or did it just fall of by itself? Tell that guy who is a douche all the time, xeris, to learn some manners.
I remember the guy said "I've been sitting in that seat all day. I had my stuff on there." to explain himself. How are we supposed to interpret this?" - a fnatic player
or you could stop this pathetic damage control stunt, and xeris could take credit for everything he did, instead of a passive aggressive/half true "apology"
On August 02 2011 13:05 KawaiiRice wrote: I was sitting right next to the xeris at that time and this guy didn't explain that he had won his seat or anything. He should have been more clear initially because he just came off as an indignant random spectator trying to reserve a VIP seat lol. those masses of random spectators need to get out of the VIP area zz Unfortunate series of misunderstandings really. Mlg needs to give these contest winners a special pass maybe.
Edit: I remember the guy said "I've been sitting in that seat all day. I had my stuff on there." to explain himself. How are we supposed to interpret this?
I can't believe I didn't see my favorite player sitting there, you must have been so close that I could have touched you or something :-)
I don't want to start a flame war, but he did talk at length with Xeris, and definitely explained he won a contest to get the seats. Especially after going to get the MLG staff member.
Hmm I assume that was after I left. I kept my head down and left after a game because I was so depressed. Well then duran u fail gg tt
edit: holy crap i delay my post button by 5 minutes and the flames just keep coming lol
On August 02 2011 13:05 KawaiiRice wrote: I was sitting right next to the xeris at that time and this guy didn't explain that he had won his seat or anything. He should have been more clear initially because he just came off as an indignant random spectator trying to reserve a VIP seat lol. those masses of random spectators need to get out of the VIP area zz Unfortunate series of misunderstandings really. Mlg needs to give these contest winners a special pass maybe.
Edit: I remember the guy said "I've been sitting in that seat all day. I had my stuff on there." to explain himself. How are we supposed to interpret this?
I can't believe I didn't see my favorite player sitting there, you must have been so close that I could have touched you or something :-)
I don't want to start a flame war, but he did talk at length with Xeris, and definitely explained he won a contest to get the seats. Especially after going to get the MLG staff member.
Hmm I assume that was after I left. I kept my head down and left after a game because I was so depressed. Well then duran u fail gg tt
edit: holy crap i delay my post button by 5 minutes and the flames just keep coming lol
Don't worry, xeris is just dragging you down the hole with him. I like how once you were caught in your lie, it was oh it must have been after I left, lol. Keep digging!
On August 02 2011 13:05 KawaiiRice wrote: I was sitting right next to the xeris at that time and this guy didn't explain that he had won his seat or anything. He should have been more clear initially because he just came off as an indignant random spectator trying to reserve a VIP seat lol. those masses of random spectators need to get out of the VIP area zz Unfortunate series of misunderstandings really. Mlg needs to give these contest winners a special pass maybe.
Edit: I remember the guy said "I've been sitting in that seat all day. I had my stuff on there." to explain himself. How are we supposed to interpret this?
I can't believe I didn't see my favorite player sitting there, you must have been so close that I could have touched you or something :-)
I don't want to start a flame war, but he did talk at length with Xeris, and definitely explained he won a contest to get the seats. Especially after going to get the MLG staff member.
Hmm I assume that was after I left. I kept my head down and left after a game because I was so depressed. Well then duran u fail gg tt
edit: holy crap i delay my post button by 5 minutes and the flames just keep coming lol
On August 02 2011 13:05 KawaiiRice wrote: I was sitting right next to the xeris at that time and this guy didn't explain that he had won his seat or anything. He should have been more clear initially because he just came off as an indignant random spectator trying to reserve a VIP seat lol. those masses of random spectators need to get out of the VIP area zz Unfortunate series of misunderstandings really. Mlg needs to give these contest winners a special pass maybe.
Edit: I remember the guy said "I've been sitting in that seat all day. I had my stuff on there." to explain himself. How are we supposed to interpret this?
I can't believe I didn't see my favorite player sitting there, you must have been so close that I could have touched you or something :-)
I don't want to start a flame war, but he did talk at length with Xeris, and definitely explained he won a contest to get the seats. Especially after going to get the MLG staff member.
Hmm I assume that was after I left. I kept my head down and left after a game because I was so depressed. Well then duran u fail gg tt
edit: holy crap i delay my post button by 5 minutes and the flames just keep coming lol
Don't worry, xeris is just dragging you down the hole with him. I like how once you were caught in your lie, it was oh it must have been after I left, lol. Keep digging!
i didn't lie? that was what he said the first time at least
On August 02 2011 13:12 GoNZooo wrote: People heard you having explained to you that the people sitting there had won them in a contest, yet you didn't move. The only part where you actually appear to be willing to give up the seats is where you demand _other seats_. 4 or 5 different parties have come forward to say they heard and saw the whole thing and they all tell the same story.
Maybe you should think a bit harder about how you do things at an event where you are clearly representing major players in the scene. After all, the only reason you were allowed to do this shit is _because_ you represent them.
Sadly, I can't really wish for you to fail outright, because that'd probably mean Fnatic's SC2 team fails with you somehow, but I'd sure as hell like to see you disappear.
First move the guys shit then refuse him his seat back after he tells you he won a contest?
On August 02 2011 11:52 Xeris wrote: I wish you would have had the courage to actually say what you thought about me to my face rather than wait until you got home to write something behind your computer screen, but that's ok.
I'm not one take sides in an internet dispute of words, but you're making it difficult for an objective person to give you any credence with that passive aggressive, tough guy act.
After reading all I can, I have to say that I believe Xeris's story; although he may or may not be sort of a dick, I think he has it right and this has been blown massively out of proportion...
Reddit is insanely vicious, though...I'm glad this is a community in which the moderators can and will take immediate actions against mindless raging and one-sided bashing.