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[WL] Days of Reckoning

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[WL] Days of Reckoning

Text byFzero
January 21st, 2009 23:28 GMT
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Days of Reckoning - Have the Dragons gone missing?
By Fzero


2009 Shinhan Bank Winners League


The Winners League has finally begun. Rosters have been set. Matches have started. The first week is in the books. The fan base here at TeamLiquid have been more than excited about the prospect of an all-kill format being presented night after night. Over 3/4ths of the members of this site have voted in favor of the Winner's League format when compared to the Traditional Proleague. What nobody told you, the fans, was that that games would be nothing like what you expected. Flash and Jaedong? Pssshhhh. How about Anytime and iloveoov! Hell yeah, it's about time. KTF have won seven games with Flash having only one victory.

This Week at a Glance
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Let's have a look at how things are shaping up thus far. Most people had high expectations for the proleague powerhouses like Samsung Khan, Lecaf Oz, STX Soul, and SK Telecom T1. Players like Jaedong, Flash, Bisu, and Leta had dominated the Shinhan Bank Proleague 08-09 season up till now. With a hearty ten matches already having been played, the standings have shaken out in a vastly different way. CJ Entus has had a wonderful showing from their irregular performers Movie and Iris thus far. KTF hasn't been a one man show like predicted since Luxury has showed up in a big way. Air Force Ace's Anytime has played magnificently, racking up five wins in two matches which catapulted them to just outside of a playoff spot so far. What surprises does next week entail? I'm sure most of you will continue to tune in and hope for an even more exciting week.

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When we think about Progaming, we think about fiery victories where our progaming heroes are showered in confetti from the ceiling while they hoist a shiny new trophy high above their head. We also think about narrow defeats wherein our most beloved idol barely missed glory as it was snatched from his/her eyes by our newest mortal enemy. And yes, a girl will win something in gaming one day. Not in Korea, but somewhere, someday... Maybe. I don't have an answer to the reason that Winners League has started so bizarrely, and frankly.. I don't want one. I could not be more excited for my fantasy team to have been so very wrong. It has made this league much more exciting than I could have ever imagined to not have any idea who will win any given match. Hopefully this trend continues and captain Korea here can lead his team to the playoffs!

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Now, you would imagine with all the hustle and bustle produced by such an enigmatic beginning we would arrive at some glaring imbalance with the maps. Perhaps Tau Cross isn't so perfect as KESPA imagined? And Medusa? Deary me, Bisu taught Protoss so well how to destroy that map. Surely something was not thought through with all the crazy victories happening night after night. Well... glancing up at our statistics here, there simply isn't evidence to that at all. I'd hardly be able to make a case for ANY map imbalances looking at the data so far, much less to suggest that Anytime and Yarnc are destroying people like Stork and Sea based on some ridiculous map feature. Perhaps in the coming weeks we'll be able to single out a reason for the insanity, but for now we'll just have to let the Joker rule for a while.

Players of the Week

Game 4 of ACE vs SKT1:
(P)Anytime < Rush Hour 3 >(T)iloveoov


Anytime's Overall Record: 5-1


Game 3 of KTF vs KHAN:
(Z)Luxury < Destination > (P)JangBi


Luxury's Overall Record: 5-1


Game 2 of OGN vs MBCGame:
(Z)YellOw[ArnC] < Sin Chupung-Ryeong > (T)Sea


YellOw[ArnC]'s Overall Record: 4-1


Game 4 of CJ vs Stars:
(T)Iris < Rush Hour 3 > (P)free


Iris' Overall Record: 3-0


Game 4 of OGN vs Stars:
(T)Leta < Tau Cross > (P)GuemChi


Leta's Overall Record: 3-1


Damn. Samsung Khan in a race for last, Air Force Ace fighting for top six, and CJ Entus leading the pack. I'd say I saw it all coming, but only Intrigue can see into the future. The excitement and anticipation for the rest of the Winners League is going to be at an all time high, I predict. I hope everyone appreciates just how much better being involved with e-sports has become because of TeamLiquid. Take a little time and give back to the wonderful community we all love. Well, that's all I have for you this week. Hopefully you enjoyed catching up on anything you missed. Please let me know if anything can be improved in the coming weeks. If there is a feature you are dying to have added, I'll do my best to accommodate. Don't be afraid to speak up. Games start again in a few days, and I hope you guys are ready!
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Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
January 23 2009 02:06 GMT
#2
Nice writeup! I'll keep enjoying the action WL is bringing even if my fantasy team is doomed as well.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
January 23 2009 02:08 GMT
#3
Good shit. Luxury and Yarnc FTW
TranslatorBaa!
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
January 23 2009 02:09 GMT
#4
Great write up, I also never expected these results. Especially players like Movie and Guemchi pulling out several wins. Makes WL so much more exciting.
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
January 23 2009 02:10 GMT
#5
Wow, it seems so obvious to pick the 2nd best player of each team now for Fantasy PL. 20/20 hindsight, I guess.
Jaedong
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
January 23 2009 02:15 GMT
#6
i dunno man, why do you think there have been no tvz games on destination and only 2 tvp games on medusa? (which is 2-0 for protoss)
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
January 23 2009 02:16 GMT
#7
go CJ! come on KTF, DO IT!!!!!!
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-23 02:18:58
January 23 2009 02:18 GMT
#8
WINNERS LEAGUE IS FUCKING AWESOME, WHEN I WATCH IT I AM LIKE A YOUNG BOY BEFORE CHRISTMAS, AND OH BOY, SANTA CLAUS DELIVERED.
UnS)DeathTrap
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada150 Posts
January 23 2009 02:21 GMT
#9
Really anxious to see next games. Hope the streams dont fail us again
IPS.ZeRo
Profile Joined April 2003
Germany1142 Posts
January 23 2009 02:22 GMT
#10
Nice writeup
"KTF hasn't been a one man show like predicted since YellOw[ArnC] has showed up in a big way"
I think you mean his brother
aka DTF-ZeRo
lxginverse
Profile Joined May 2008
Monaco1506 Posts
January 23 2009 02:34 GMT
#11
CJ KTF fighting!
fromis_9 enjoyer
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
January 23 2009 02:38 GMT
#12
gogo CJ/KTF!

its also amazing to see anytime rolling people
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8092 Posts
January 23 2009 02:40 GMT
#13
Nice write up man very good, i like the games of the week part, 815 vs best could be put up there i really liked that game,
You could add 1v1 rankings aswell
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8161 Posts
January 23 2009 02:49 GMT
#14
Does anyone know when the next matches are on?
Free Palestine
ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
January 23 2009 02:50 GMT
#15
cj woot
fuck lag
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
January 23 2009 02:52 GMT
#16
All kill brothers FTW!
Luxury is vindicated, Yarnc is a star.
They have been the biggest ballers in WL so far. I wish my brother and I were that good of zerg players.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
January 23 2009 02:55 GMT
#17
really nice write-up, F0 <3
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Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
January 23 2009 03:07 GMT
#18
On January 23 2009 11:22 IPS.ZeRo wrote:
Nice writeup
"KTF hasn't been a one man show like predicted since YellOw[ArnC] has showed up in a big way"
I think you mean his brother


Thanks for the catch.

On January 23 2009 11:15 benjammin wrote:
i dunno man, why do you think there have been no tvz games on destination and only 2 tvp games on medusa? (which is 2-0 for protoss)


These statistics are only for Winner's League, which are accurate as far as I know.
Never give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.
thor jton
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada62 Posts
January 23 2009 03:08 GMT
#19
wow
i think i picked anytime for fantasy league
AWESOMESAUCE!!!
btw
nice writeup
Sprite
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1015 Posts
January 23 2009 03:09 GMT
#20
Frozean is gonna come outta nowhere and all kill every team in the league! Just in spite of all the hate for him!
Firebathero is still the best!
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