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[HOWTO] Watch Replays without SC Version Bugging

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cyronc
Profile Joined March 2008
218 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-03 07:47:25
December 02 2008 15:56 GMT
#1
DISCLAIMER:
I am not very good at speaking/writing English and I am sorry if there is a pre-existing post covering what i am gonna explain below, if so just close the topic.

I have noticed that many people have problems each time a new sc patch is released with watching older replays. Most often the problem is not that they dont know they need the corresponding older version of starcraft to watch the .rep without bugging, but instead they seem to get discomfortable with the way to 'downgrade' sc.

An easy alternative instead of patching the game everytime you choose to switch between watching older reps/playing b.net/playing an older version of sc on hamachi is to get some old executables (those are the starcraft.exe files) and just launch the right one instaed of your up-to-date starcraft.exe. (this can be done very easily by renaming each old starcraft.exe since the game doesnt care how its instance`s exe was called).

Next thing: to watch replays comfortably from ANY folder on your disk i recommend you to get ReXplorer which is kinda out-of-date but still does the tricks with a little help (the main outdated aspect is the automatic replay version recognition since it hasnt been updated after 1.14 if i remember correctly)

TO GET TO THE JUICY STUFF: if you have the old renamed executables in your starcraft folder you can choose which one to launch in chaos launcher which enables version independent plugins (like WMODE) on older versions too. after launching starcraft via chaos just alt-tab out of the game select your rep on disk (in any folder again) right-click on it, 'launch replay in starcraft'->'starcraft' and you are good to go. Additional benefits are you can extract the map from the replays via same context menu too.

And if a new patch comes out: just copy/paste the 'starcraft.exe' to a new file like 'starcraft1161.exe' and you wont have problems continuing with this setup.

Links to the programs I mentioned above:

Old Executables (the original files from 1.04 to 1.13) are available at BW Programmers(EDIT bwprogrammers isnt hosting their old_execs package anymore it seems, for the time being just use the link below)
A newer RAR package by me containing the files up to 1.16 is available here:
Media Fire (EDIT to clear things up: this link contains all the executables i could get from 1.04 to 1.16)

if someone has problems with this download site and recommends another no-need-to-register upload host ill try to add them there too, just tell me

ReXplorer is also downloadable at BW Programmers
Copied Description from BW Programmers: IMPORTANT : before installing ReXplorer, make sure you have installed Microsoft's C++ Runtime Library. If you don't, ReXplorer won't be able to install.

Chaos Launcher at Master of Chaos' Site
(i recommend you to get both the 1.153 and 1.16 versions until 1.161 or 1.17 comes out. thats mainly cuz most plugins are version-dependent)

hope that helps ppl to setup an easy to manage system of ever being able to watch replays independent of version (but remember you SHOULD KNOW which version the file is, but if its older then 1.14 rexplorer will be able to help, else its your responsibility)

mods may feel free to edit my post for better reading, since all that matters is the information in here.

gl hf, hope it helps to reduce the amount of ppl whining over corrupted replays everytime a new patch comes out
iH82G8!
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-03 16:43:07
December 03 2008 16:42 GMT
#2
usually i install starcraft 2 times...
the first one is 1.13, n another one is 1.15.X
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
December 03 2008 16:50 GMT
#3
rofl.... Its "version bugging" anyway because when you use another .exe you have another version

However i thought this is known, i watch older replays like this since i started playing bw.
oh man all my old reach replays <3

Well i guess its a good post for the newbies out there
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sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
December 03 2008 18:14 GMT
#4
Chaos is giving me more problems with replays than the new patch is.
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cyronc
Profile Joined March 2008
218 Posts
December 03 2008 19:21 GMT
#5
Yeah MasterRey you nailed it. The reason i posted this was not, that nobody would have already known about this stuff, but instead its for those ppl, who keep whining about how hard it is to get old replay working again after each patch .
iH82G8!
Agro_Z
Profile Joined April 2008
United States138 Posts
December 03 2008 23:12 GMT
#6
Couldn't you just watch them using bwchart and selecting the version that SC should launch in?
"Don't put things off, put them over" - fortune cookie
cyronc
Profile Joined March 2008
218 Posts
December 05 2008 20:04 GMT
#7
On December 04 2008 08:12 Agro_Z wrote:
Couldn't you just watch them using bwchart and selecting the version that SC should launch in?


this is true, when you have the Old Executables properly set up in your bwchart, but just rightclicking a file in a folder seems much more comfortable to me
iH82G8!
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
December 08 2008 14:16 GMT
#8
thats what i do too
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xxbluejay21
Profile Joined February 2009
United States94 Posts
April 11 2009 01:40 GMT
#9
I was looking back to this post to help me with my replays but I dont know what to do. The instructions are so confusing. Help?
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cyronc
Profile Joined March 2008
218 Posts
June 04 2009 12:21 GMT
#10
On April 11 2009 10:40 xxbluejay21 wrote:
I was looking back to this post to help me with my replays but I dont know what to do. The instructions are so confusing. Help?


the only reasons when the above procedures could still result in 'buggy' replay watching is, if the game was recorded with same special software(example given: watching reps which were saved with custom 3rd-party-tool data without having the same 3rd-party-tool running at the same time. more in detail: for instance if you saved a rep in 1.13 times with special fpreplay options of penguinplug/bwlauncher enabled, you would need same programs to watch without trouble, because it can happen that the unaltered scbw version will interprete the additional custom commands wrong; other example is the infamous 'scbw replay bugs out after chat in pause' during 1.16, because the engine misinterpreted tet during pause as player commands after the pause(there is a plugin which fixes this out there btw))

so to conclude: if getting the right sc version to watch doesnt help, its probably some non-standard format in which the rep was saved, thus youd need the same non-standard plugins/launchers/whatever to watch those special replays..
iH82G8!
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