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[WCS KR] Ro16 Group D Preview (S1)

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[WCS KR] Ro16 Group D Preview (S1)

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Graphics byshiroiusagi
May 8th, 2013 23:29 GMT

2013 GSL Season 2

WCS Korea Season 1 - GSL




Code S Ro16: Group D
Preview: Symbol, soO, Gumiho, Losira


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Ro16 Group D Preview

by stuchiu.

Forget about everything that happened in the Ro16. Yes, Bomber has made it to his first ro8 in over an year. Yes, the group of death has passed with Innovation and Parting victorious. Yes, Soulkey has made it to the ro8. Yes, Roro is making a real consecutive GSL championship run. But for the ro16, this group has the potential to top everything that has happened thus far with one simple fact. It’s a Gumiho vs Losira rematch.

Group D: (Z)Azubu.Symbol, (Z)SKT_soO, (T)FXOGuMiho, (Z)LG-IM_LosirA


This isn't a rivalry like Flash vs. Life featuring two prodigies from two generations, or a trash-talk laden one like Parting vs Life. Gumiho vs. Losira is just a match between two players of equal skill whose styles match up each other so perfectly that the end result has always been explosive and exciting games. While there is only one series to go on, it was one of the best series played in 2013 (if not THE best) and the last great TvZ series of WoL. In that series, Gumiho and Losira met in the loser’s match of the Ro16 and both players proceeded to play some of the best games of their lives. It was Gumiho’s multi-tasking against Losira’s defense. It was Losira’s ultras against Gumiho’s bio forces, Losira’s queens against Gumiho’s ghosts, his infestors against Gumiho’s nukes. It was a battle for the ages, and that was only game 1. Then game 2 trumped that. Then game 3 eclipsed both of those to the point that no one remembers games 1 and 2, only 3. It was a masterpiece of a game that ended with a mined out Akilon Flats, with Gumiho's ingenuity triumphing over Losira's tenacity.

Unfortunately for both of them, they both put everything they had into that series, and Gumiho was easy pickings for MC in the final match. That is the real conundrum of this group. Individually, both Gumiho and Losira are favorites that can clear this group. But together, there may be a chance that they exhaust each other to the point that they become easy pickings for the other two players in the group.

Forever a Kong, Never a Champion

Coming in second is the perpetual silver surfer (Z)Azubu.Symbol. He has the dubious honor of winning the continental silver slam, with second place finishes in major tournaments in Asia, North America, and Europe. Much like Roro, he came into this season with almost no fanfare and recognition, and quite easily made it into the ro16 with no one taking any particular note. There are many reasons for this, the largest being he was the runner-up of the last season of WoL which came to represent the epitome of broodlord infestor. Thus the image of a macro-centric late-game oriented stuck to Symbol and has hidden Symbol’s strongest trait of his game, his thirst for victory.

Symbol plays to win. That is the underlying principle that drives all of Symbol’s games and plans. During his first Code S run, he was crushed by Seed using Ultra-infestor bane against Protoss. The season after, he switched full time to brood lord infestor. He lost in an all zerg group one season, in the next he makes it to the finals winning his ZvZ against Curious. He lost to Roro being too predictable with a roach macro styles, and the next season he changed his ZvZ to aggressive early game ling-bane attacks. When he makes a mistake one season, he makes sure to fix it and improve the next. It is that aspect that makes Symbol one of the most dangerous players in the world, he never stops trying, he never stops improving himself.

SKT Zerg

SKT Zerg is a term often used more as an insult than a mere identifier. The SKT Zerg more often than not dashes the hopes and happiness of SKT fans everywhere as they lose game after game trying their best to slow damn the juggernaut that SKT usually is in Proleague. (Z)soO is the latest heir to that legacy. Luckily for Soo, this is a new game and while the SKT Zerg line is still weak in comparison to its Protoss and Terran lines, it has come a long way since the heyday of Hyuk and friends. As for Soo himself, he is a solid Zerg player that has done well for himself in the transition into SC2 and has been a good contributor for SKT during PL. Unfortunately for him he is also 0-4 in his last PL matches since the switch to HotS, thus making it hard to gauge where Soo actually is in terms of skill. The only thing concrete known about him is that he beat Curious twice to advance to the Ro16, and that he saw fit to single out the Prime team as being easy.

Overall Predictions:

The most important factor that will decide this group will be the Losira vs. Gumiho matches. While no one can know for sure if the two of them will destroy each other in another glorious battle to the death, it is a distinct possibility. With that being the case, both Symbol and Soo should be favorites to make it out of this group as they can just sweep up the exhausted two players. If it comes to be that Gumiho vs. Losira does not end in a blaze of glory, then Symbol and Gumiho are the likely favorites to get out of the group with both Losira and Soo close behind them.

Symbol > Soo
Gumiho > Losira
Symbol > Gumiho
Losira > Soo
Gumiho > Losira

Symbol and Gumiho advance.

Writers: stuchiu.
Graphics: Shiroiusagi
Editor: Waxangel.
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igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
May 08 2013 23:38 GMT
#2
Go symbol!
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RoranRock
Profile Joined October 2011
France294 Posts
May 08 2013 23:38 GMT
#3
i would be glad if it's turn like the predictions

rooting for symbol, always entertaining and smart player!
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Jonanin
Profile Joined April 2010
United States23 Posts
May 08 2013 23:39 GMT
#4
Can someone link to VODs for this awesome Gumiho vs Losira series?
asdf
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States2329 Posts
May 08 2013 23:44 GMT
#5
Why still call him Losira when he changed his ID to KangHo? I mean, we generally call other players "Innovation" and "Wookie" now, right?
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bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
May 08 2013 23:50 GMT
#6
On May 09 2013 08:44 LightSpectra wrote:
Why still call him Losira when he changed his ID to KangHo? I mean, we generally call other players "Innovation" and "Wookie" now, right?


Eh, it took writers and most posts in TL months to stop calling Innovation Bogus every second sentence at least.

And obviously from a writing perspective, calling him both is good in case more casual viewers know one and not the other.
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isaachukfan
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada785 Posts
May 08 2013 23:56 GMT
#7
gumibear and kanghosira fighting!!!
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 09 2013 00:03 GMT
#8
I hope Gumiho makes it but I feel like it's going to be 2 of the zergs
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dustinth
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China205 Posts
May 09 2013 00:09 GMT
#9
One thing we learned from past weeks is never underestimate KESPA players. Soo may not be good at zvt or zvp . But for zvz we shouldn't take for granted that he would lose to other two zergs
teddyoojo
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Germany22369 Posts
May 09 2013 00:19 GMT
#10
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 09 2013 00:26 GMT
#11
On May 09 2013 08:44 LightSpectra wrote:
Why still call him Losira when he changed his ID to KangHo? I mean, we generally call other players "Innovation" and "Wookie" now, right?


They call him Losira because he has accomplished so much more under that ID than under his name. Innovation is called by his new name out of respect for how insanely well he's played since the name change. As for Wooki, that was his original name, but since then he has changed his name multiple times, covered himself in blood and lemon juice, and I would like to give a number to his number of name changes, but I don't want the hassle of editing this message every few months to keep it accurate.
KaiserKieran
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States615 Posts
May 09 2013 00:33 GMT
#12
I want Symbol and gumiho to make it out but I have a feeling that Soo is just gonna come out and destroy everyone.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
May 09 2013 00:41 GMT
#13
On May 09 2013 09:26 BrokenMirage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 08:44 LightSpectra wrote:
Why still call him Losira when he changed his ID to KangHo? I mean, we generally call other players "Innovation" and "Wookie" now, right?


They call him Losira because he has accomplished so much more under that ID than under his name. Innovation is called by his new name out of respect for how insanely well he's played since the name change. As for Wooki, that was his original name, but since then he has changed his name multiple times, covered himself in blood and lemon juice, and I would like to give a number to his number of name changes, but I don't want the hassle of editing this message every few months to keep it accurate.


I call Innovation Bogus because it sounds better, it's easier to type, and really Bogus fits his play much more. It's just Bogus how he owns people >_>

haven't seen much innovation from him though
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kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
May 09 2013 00:43 GMT
#14
On May 09 2013 08:44 LightSpectra wrote:
Why still call him Losira when he changed his ID to KangHo? I mean, we generally call other players "Innovation" and "Wookie" now, right?

Well... Wookie is Wookie's original ID... he changed it to P7GAB and later to Zest.
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kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
May 09 2013 00:43 GMT
#15
Either way, I hope GuMiho gets out.
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DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
May 09 2013 00:52 GMT
#16
Hoping for gumiho
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
May 09 2013 01:13 GMT
#17
soO might just practice mirror only. Rest he can 6pool or something
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
May 09 2013 01:18 GMT
#18
symbol over gumibear? i think not
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 09 2013 01:21 GMT
#19
Yes, Bomber has made it to his first ro8 in over an year.


It's my duty as waxangel's unofficial editor to inform you that there's a typo in this sentence in the thread instead of PMing you, to show the world the mistake you have made.
Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
May 09 2013 01:26 GMT
#20
Yes, Symbol and Gumibear it shall be. I don't think we're gonna have another epic Gumi-Losira bout. Losira's zvt has looked pretty weak so far in HotS, with unimpressive losses to Keen, Ryung, and Taeja. Meanwhile Gumi's tvz looks as strong as ever and he only has to prepare for that one matchup.

The vulnerable one in this group is Symbol, whose zvz has always been dubious. Losira and soO both got here on the back of their zvz's, with 4-1's over True and Curious last round, and they can advance in the same manner again. Symbol's zvz is a candidate for the "most improved in a short period of time" award but it is still his weak leg. He has a dogfight on his hands to get out of Group Z alive, though I do think he will do it.
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